BUNNEYHING!!

[cenobite]

Ok Quick Question:

Should Bunnyhopping be disabed on HL Servers @BW?

Firstly, let it be known that I can bunneh like a bitch on heat so this aint the issue that I cannot do it and everyone else can (btw only took about 5hrs to learn if that).

There are server switches that basically disable air acceleration and movement as well which stops you from being able to bunneh.

So thoughts here :

Give me one valid reason why it should not be disabed?

 

[Ch3tan]

Does not changing the air and gravity settings affect all movement, grenades and other things? Th normal settings are what people are used too. Bunny hopping should not need to be disabled by changing these settings, people just should not do it.
If you see bunny hoppers on BW servers go to #barrysworld and get an admin to ban them, nice and simple.

 

[cenobite]

You cannot ban people for bunny hopping on a server. It is not a cheat. I would be extremely annoyed if I saw anyone banned or indeed someone banned me. If you see someone doing it just ask the politely to stop.

Sometimes asking nicely works.

 

[old.Dangerousmouse]

we had this arguement a weekback, look down the list a bit, it all started when i was banned from a server for bunnyhopping

 

[cenobite]

True, but not everyone knows that it can be stopped (although the side effects are not fully known).]

 

[Meatballs]

parp, ceno is also a bunny on heat in bed

 

[Atomic Rammer]

What settings did u have in mind?
I'll give em a go on our server.

sv_airaccelerate 0 is it?

 

[Atomic Rammer]

I'd recommend setting to 2 or 3, coz 0 has some issues with not being able to get off the top of ladders properly.
Getting speed up is tough, but u can still come to a stop during a jump for delicate positioning.

 

[granny]

Bunnyhopping shouldn't be disabled or stopped and bunnyhoppers *certainly* shouldn't be kicked or banned for it.

I can't bunnyhop, I definitely cannot be arsed with spending 5 hours learning how to do it (get a life fs ) but I don't see why others should be stopped from doing it, it's not a cheat, it makes you look stupid and if you have to spend so long learning it then, well, you're already a sad git who deserves no further punishment

 

[old.Z3r0Ki77]

I really couldn't care if ppl bunnied, because it must be impossible to aim when doing it, so just take position and fire, simply... one free kill, or a tk.....

 

[old.Xer]

for HL DM?that would be stupid,i mean u can BH in QW,qhy not HL?
As for CS on publics its ok,but you do have to be respawned at the front,or you just get blocked.
i doubt any1 does it in clan matches.

 

[old.mohdnoor]

Bunny Hop

Can u teach me how to bunny hop, pls email me mohdnoor@hotmail.com

 

[SAS]

You cannot ban people for bunny hopping on a server. It is not a cheat

Try but I see it as an exploit that is being exploited.

Ceno's being fair here and I agree it's not a bannable offence, but if it can be stopped it will be better for the game, although I doubt any measures taken will ever stop it :/

 

[throdgrain]

for a "realistic" game bunny hopping is just stupid and should be banned.
i think anyway

 

[Ch3tan]

Valve blha blah committed to remvoing bunny hopping from the game engine, complicated blah blah, affects all game physics blah.

Exploit thats not nice, allows you to very quickly reach choke points and thus ambush people you would normally meet head on. On some maps it lets you just get past choke points and to hossies.bomb points before anyone can get u. hence its an unfair advantage, ruins the map balance and pees off the entire server (in my experience). Its always thoose that have wasted their time learnign to Bh that defend it, but they know themselves who unfiarly it unbalances a game.

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Imho it's getting silly now, over the last few weeks iv'e started to see soldiers and other slow as classes start to shift at the speed of scouts. You can't tell me that this is good for the game, it completely unbalances it

 

[old.Pace]

Ch3tan for once i agree with u. Bunnyhopping is unrealistic and was never meant to be part of the play, i messes up meeting points, and is just a bug in the game that people use get an advantage. Anyway, as bw own the servers, they can make the rules, and if its against the rules, then they should be kicked/banned after there warning not 2 do it, as it is in a way cheatin(not meant to be how the game is played).

Pace

 

[Moön]

Some say its not a cheat, technically no but when the speed cheat let people move at higher speeds that was unaceptable now that its been found a little exploit can give almost the same affect but not to your weapons its no longer considered a cheat and some call it a skill .

A game of TFC I worked very hard to get the nme flag out of thier base only to find I was caught up by a hwg who killed me, I'm sure this sort of thing will ruin the game's both CS and TFC so it can't carry on .

Yeh they are sad gits but they'l keep doing it while they can and I heard some people are working on scripts to make them BH with no effort at all .

btw banning a person for BH might sound a bit harsh but I bet it sends a strong message out

 

[old.DeerHunter]

As much as some of you dislike it, server settings on BW TFC servers will not be changed to "disable" bunnyhopping. Anyone I find bunnyhopping on a BW TFC server will not be banned or even warned as it is considered a skill to me and to BWTFCL. As we've been told many times, bunnyhopping will be removed or at the very least reduced in the next HL patch. That should solve the problem.

 

[lovedaddy]

I think Bunnying should be a banning offence. The justification that you can learn it in 5 hours is crap. In about 20 mins I can find an aim bot or a wall hack - does that mean that if I spend time looking or learning something Im justified in using it? NO.
Its just another cheat, simple as. You able to move fast than the designers intended you to do so. Hold on a min!! Wasn't that the same as the speed cheat and everyone agree 100% that using that was cheating.
Another thing, Ch3tan is also a top bloke, if you see anyone twating about, drop to IRC and get Ch3tan on the case!!

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Originally posted by DeerHunter
As much as some of you dislike it, server settings on BW TFC servers will not be changed to "disable" bunnyhopping. Anyone I find bunnyhopping on a BW TFC server will not be banned or even warned as it is considered a skill to me and to BWTFCL. As we've been told many times, bunnyhopping will be removed or at the very least reduced in the next HL patch. That should solve the problem.

Hehe i allways considerd it to be a skill, ffs iv'e been doing it for years, but atm the it's getting silly, like i say your getting every class in the game start to shift like shingle of a shovel, thats not good.

Basically iv'e come to learn over the years iv'e played tf, there are reasons that some classes move slower than others. One is the all important factor of teamplay, which im pretty much presuming is all important in a team game. Whats the point in having a class of player that can basically avoid the whole nme team because he can shift his model at two, three times as fast as the speed of the model was designed for to fit within the balance of the game. Two, like i say this is a team game and not a deathmatch, these skills were perfectly suited to deathmatching as it was a so called 'edge' in a fight/duel ect..
And last off, due to the general lag i find this game plagued in it makes dam models that are shifting at full pelt very difficult to hit, most shots i fire off go straight through the target like it's not there, thats not good imho as i play on cable

Ps im glad that valve have chosen to adress this issue for the main reason iv'e given above, the class's all move at different speeds for a reason.

Can't wait till they sort it out, me thinks the same people who cried about the reduced con jumping will be out in force again, eheh

 

[Moön]

All I know is I been playing some TFC matches and the shitest of players manage to get past the most skilled defence just because they've spent a sad lonely night learning to manipulate this game, but you get them when their not bunny hoping and they suck, its not right .

Also I can imagine how annoying this could be for CS aswell, say you had an enemy planting bombs before you hardly left your spawn .

The game is far from newbie friendly as it is think how bunny hoping would affect a newbie, I bet they'd soon get fed up and quit .

 

[old.Pace]

The last points im making to all the people who think bunnyhopping is right, is that it messes up meeting points, spoiling perfectly normal rushes by good players who can buy there stuff quick.
Its Cheating anyway, as when the designers made the style of play they didnt mean for bunnyhopping to be there(or they would have added a bh key). Also, more very good players would see bh as a must if they didnt see it as cheatin. Lastly, its unrealistic and make the game look shit.

bunnyhoppers.... just get better at playin the game normaly and dont use unfair advantages.

se ya, Pace

 

[old.Kez]

I can bunny hop IRL, what are you retarded? Momentum fs :/

(and CS is nowhere near real, so why its exageration is being frowned upon is quite beyond me)

I consider crouching and shooting to be a cheat, because it makes you more accurate, giving you an advantage over the guy walking. Ban it please.

(This is whats called hysteria, thxbye)

 

[Moön]

Bunny hoping is nothing like crouching and shooting
If your holding a gun in real life its heavy yeh! u crouch and your body has more support for it and you can control the recoil better thus giving you a better aim.....who did you call a retard

hey what next maybe someone will find an exploit that makes you invisible but I'm sure some will call it skill

Just another bloke who cant handle not being able to have his advantage over normal players is what this looks like

 

[old.Kez]

Perhaps you'd like to give up analysing me eh? You're only serving to make yourself look a flid.

Now you're either obese, or you've never jumped in your life. I stand by the fact that one can bunny hop (though its less hoping than you'd like to imagine, because as with everything games are exagerated) IRL.

Also, if you can't spot sarcasm that blatant within context, perhaps you'd care to rethink calling me a retard?

I didn't actually come here to flame you, or anyone else (much as I'd like to, twats) - only to point out how thoroughly stupid your arguments over this are. (This is where I added the sarcastic counter point about crouching and shooting, thx)

 

[Ch3tan]

Why are our arguments stupid?

Bunny hopping ruins the fun of the game for everyone? Just because you dont place any importance on fairness or balance in a game doesnt mean that others dont.

You say that Cs isnt near realistic? Well I agree but wether its realistic or not the game desingers and map designers didnt intend for someone to hopp like a bunny on heat over half the level before others had left their spawn points.

Its not hysteria, its a long standing debate as to whether bhopping is a cheat or not. Its been addressed finally by Valve, now we just have to wait for them to remove it.

 

[old.Pace]

Kez: "I consider crouching and shooting to be a cheat, because it makes you more accurate". Man are you thick or what? that isnt even an example of a bug, like bunnyhopping. And cs very realistic, and just crap things like bh make it unrealistic. Also you say are you obese, like any1 could repeatedly jump 5 meters at a time.
Retarded, i think you are.


Pace

 

[old.Kez]

Pace please learn to read before addressing me next, it angers me greatly that an entire post can go over your head but you persist in replying.

I shant even bother with you.

(Hi btw Ch3tan, I'm here to alienate myself from this board I infrequently visit, I do hope you don't mind)

 

[Ch3tan]

No you go ahead Kez