bugged or gimped armsman

[Cavex ElSaviour]

i tried to hit style DC doors tonight. prepatch i was a 2handed armsman and was doing u excute bla bla perfectlu (+250) +44 dmg. now im a crush pole arm and i did u excute bla bla perfectly (+4) + 58 dmg. is this normal for a crush pole? are the doors bugged? is my wep bugged?

 

[old.mattshanes]

Cav,mil had similar problems i will explain ingame what's wrong.

 

[liste]

if you check the patch notes, im fairly sure, you will find something along the lines of :


'Fixed a display problem with styles on Keep doors showing odd damage numbers'

In effect, you do the same ammount of damage, but they fixed the rediculous (+1000) displayed to be more realistically

edit: funky typo

 

[old.willowywicca]

no offence meant to anyone.. but it's funny how many people don't actually understand what the information given when you hit stuff means..

things like:

you cast xxx and hit for 250(-270) omg I just hit for -20 damage WTF?!?

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

if u understand it, please enlighten us.

 

[old.willowywicca]

ack fine then:

You perform your annihilation perfectly(+135).
You hit Mattshanes for 624(-124).
Mattshanes cannot seem to move.

just taking the above as an example..

from matt's point of view I will have done 624 damage to him.
ie Malevolencia attacks you with her hammer!
You are hit for 624 damage.


now you're wondering, wtf do those other numbers mean then?
in the 624(-124). 624 is the final damage done, the -124 were modifiers that have already been taken into account. why do we get told these modifiers if we get the final damge anyways? well it's so it's clearer to us why, if I hit matt for say 400(-100) and I hit someone weak to crush for 600(+100) why I hit the other guys for 200 more? if they didn't give us the information I wuld jsut see, you hit matt for 400, you hit otherGuy for 600, and I would think my damage had some crazy variance cos I specced badly when really it was cos of enemy resists...

now for the part with the style..

You perform your annihilation perfectly(+135).

this is an indication of the bonus damage granted by the style, and again, it has alrady been factored into the final damage of 624. Now then, why did keep doors previously state stuff like:

You perform your celtic fury perfectly(+1025).
You hit the keepDoor for 35 damage!

The reason was simple (sort of ). First off, the actual dmg you did was only 35. now why was the bonus so big? well keep doors are technically only lvl 1 - 10 (hence why they're so grey con) and so your styles get a massive bonus on them (hence the +1025), however the damage they take is not related to their lvl exactly as it is for mobs/players (if it was you'd bash through them in 2 seconds solo) they take damage in a different way which is why you hit for 35 on something grey con.. the recent patch changed it so that the *displayed* bonus from your styles on doors are now what they actually are vs the door, not what they would be vs a normal lvl1-10 thing. However the actual damage you and you styles do to doors has never been changed..

Hope that was clear any further questions??

Mal

P.S.> the mattshane's eample is purely fictional as I have only seen him like 3 or 4 times as matt and didn't get any screenies/log of it hope ya don't mind matt

 

[old.mattshanes]

I don't mind being hit by you but that damage wouldn't surprise me at the moment on matt with af bug

 

[old.willowywicca]

yeah that's my annihilation cap I used in the example.. since it's is what I really would hit for atm silly bugs..

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

its clear to me now

 

[liste]

the recent patch changed it so that the *displayed* bonus from your styles on doors are now what they actually are vs the door, not what they would be vs a normal lvl1-10 thing. However the actual damage you and you styles do to doors has never been changed..

Hence, my post

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by liste



Hence, my post

yep, but I was asked to explain it too

 

[Garaen]

The numbers in the brackets are calculated first, and the number outside the brackets is your final damage output, to put it simple