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Spamb0t

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Didn't feel good today releasing after being ran over by a fully buffed sb.

I can live whit being zerged over, it happens, but meeting buffbotlamers is lame.
 
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Moodyard^_^

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someone got owned :eek:



But yeah i know how you feel sometimes when im not buffed :(


Just try get some buffs and get even :p

Or even better, get even unbuffed :)
 
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Spamb0t

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(this is a flame to this thread: Laughspamming by salamurwhatever btw.. which i find being rather laughable... the only SBs who killed me today was 2 at the same time.. both buffed.. i know as i killed em both when i got to start the fight later though.)
 
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arrakeen

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I know most sb's is buffede, but how can you know for sure when they kill you and you dont kill them?
 
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Khazik

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Hrm, how can you say most SBs are buffed? What do know that supports this?

And, how can the thread starter possibly know that the SB was buffed? Maybe he/she has SC gear.

Assuming someone was buffed just because you got beat, isn't the way to go (imho).
 
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nightsorrow

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Originally posted by arrakeen
I know most sb's is buffede, but how can you know for sure when they kill you and you dont kill them?


the damage he/she does....hit fast with hard damage
 
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old.LandShark

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*shrug*
They won't drop their buffs, so I won't drop mine. I can with perfect honesty say that being shredded to tiny, crying shreds by a buffed Dexa was the final straw for me. Not that buffed NS's are common, or that Dexa was habitually buffed.... but I'm glad I DID level a bot up, cos tbh there would be no point soloing anymore if I didn't have it.
 
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SoulFly Amarok

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Get a buffbot of your own then.

If you can't beat them, join them.

Really, what's the point in running alone, unbuffed, when buffbots excist? I don't get it :mad:
 
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old.Mitsu

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Pretty easy to spot a buffed sb - most of them have the shammy dmg add/shield on. :)
 
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Xandax

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Originally posted by nightsorrow
sb with buffbot, it takes no skill....

neither does a buffbotted scout :rolleyes: or infil or any other class for that matter. Unless everybody is buffbotted.
 
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Xandax

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Originally posted by SoulFly Amarok
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Really, what's the point in running alone, unbuffed, when buffbots excist? I don't get it :mad:

Some of us still like a challenge in RvR. :)
And a solo player withouth buffbot does indeed face challenges.
 
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Mirala

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Hehe

Aye.. Can't everyone just stop flaming eachother.. Take the game for what it is.... IT'S JUST A GAME..
But if u wanna play and have really fun.. Play in groups that own :)
 
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Glottis_Xanadu

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Originally posted by Xandax
neither does a buffbotted scout :rolleyes: or infil or any other class for that matter. Unless everybody is buffbotted.

You have no clue of how gimped Archer classes are.
Without a buffbot (or buffs) you will miss, fumble even more than we do now. Besides having no chance against SB unbuffed, we still have no chance really buffed. Only maybe hunters and rangers have some chance against infs.
Can you just admit hitting someone for 600hp per hit using LA is a bit sick and overpowered? Guess not.
And also stop saying scouts are fine, cause they are not, they are fucked up beyond believe. The trouble it took me to get 465k rp is insane when compared to an SB.
SB tactic to fight scouts that have similar stealth, so move too fast to catch up stealthed: Run at it unstealthed, wack 3 times for 600hp per hit, dead scout.
Scout method of dealing with SB. Activate TS, cannot get crit cause SB moves (lol), hit normal shot, 250hp damage. SB unstealths, runs right at you, evades 2nd shot, align 3rd shot, allmost ready to fire, get hit for 600hp, and debuffed, fire 3rd shot, get really lucky, and hit for 200hp (oh, I took 450hp of his 2k hp, good me...). Switch to shield and sword, and pray slam will land, get hit for another 600hp, land slam with 10% hp left. Slam is either purged, or SB decides to let me have some fun. I move to back of SB, align Crit, and miss on a stunned SB. Or I get really lucky (remember, I used up all my luck on the 3rd normal shot already, so unlikely I get this lucky) and I hit the SB for 560hp. SB comes out of stun, and kills me.
Regards, Glottis
 
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Xandax

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Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
You have no clue of how gimped Archer classes are.
Without a buffbot (or buffs) you will miss, fumble even more than we do now. Besides having no chance against SB unbuffed, we still have no chance really buffed. Only maybe hunters and rangers have some chance against infs.
Can you just admit hitting someone for 600hp per hit using LA is a bit sick and overpowered? Guess not.
And also stop saying scouts are fine, cause they are not, they are fucked up beyond believe. The trouble it took me to get 465k rp is insane when compared to an SB.
SB tactic to fight scouts that have similar stealth, so move too fast to catch up stealthed: Run at it unstealthed, wack 3 times for 600hp per hit, dead scout.
Scout method of dealing with SB. Activate TS, cannot get crit cause SB moves (lol), hit normal shot, 250hp damage. SB unstealths, runs right at you, evades 2nd shot, align 3rd shot, allmost ready to fire, get hit for 600hp, and debuffed, fire 3rd shot, get really lucky, and hit for 200hp (oh, I took 450hp of his 2k hp, good me...). Switch to shield and sword, and pray slam will land, get hit for another 600hp, land slam with 10% hp left. Slam is either purged, or SB decides to let me have some fun. I move to back of SB, align Crit, and miss on a stunned SB. Or I get really lucky (remember, I used up all my luck on the 3rd normal shot already, so unlikely I get this lucky) and I hit the SB for 560hp. SB comes out of stun, and kills me.
Regards, Glottis

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:rolleyes:

hehe - 600 damage per swing? - Must be some "Bonus against Whiner spec"
 
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Moodyard^_^

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Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
You have no clue of how gimped Archer classes are.
Without a buffbot (or buffs) you will miss, fumble even more than we do now. Besides having no chance against SB unbuffed, we still have no chance really buffed. Only maybe hunters and rangers have some chance against infs.
Can you just admit hitting someone for 600hp per hit using LA is a bit sick and overpowered? Guess not.
And also stop saying scouts are fine, cause they are not, they are fucked up beyond believe. The trouble it took me to get 465k rp is insane when compared to an SB.
SB tactic to fight scouts that have similar stealth, so move too fast to catch up stealthed: Run at it unstealthed, wack 3 times for 600hp per hit, dead scout.
Scout method of dealing with SB. Activate TS, cannot get crit cause SB moves (lol), hit normal shot, 250hp damage. SB unstealths, runs right at you, evades 2nd shot, align 3rd shot, allmost ready to fire, get hit for 600hp, and debuffed, fire 3rd shot, get really lucky, and hit for 200hp (oh, I took 450hp of his 2k hp, good me...). Switch to shield and sword, and pray slam will land, get hit for another 600hp, land slam with 10% hp left. Slam is either purged, or SB decides to let me have some fun. I move to back of SB, align Crit, and miss on a stunned SB. Or I get really lucky (remember, I used up all my luck on the 3rd normal shot already, so unlikely I get this lucky) and I hit the SB for 560hp. SB comes out of stun, and kills me.
Regards, Glottis


giv screenshots of sbs hitting you for 600dmg / swing on regular basis and i might, just might stop thinking you are a ´whinging cunt
 
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froler-mid

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Originally posted by Xandax
neither does a buffbotted scout :rolleyes: or infil or any other class for that matter. Unless everybody is buffbotted.



exactly...

this disscussion is soo old. i got a buffie cos many other sb's had one. and im mostly fighting sb's _and_grouped/buffed players.

i really dont see the problem?


sure, when i come across a unbuffed sb and gank him with me at 100% hp, its kinda sad/boring etc etc.
 
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Tranquil-

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Originally posted by Xandax
neither does a buffbotted scout :rolleyes: or infil or any other class for that matter. Unless everybody is buffbotted.

I would go as far as saying that playing a solo archer is probably a bit more of a challenge to play successfully than a Shadowblade. If that's what you're after. :rolleyes:
 
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Khazik

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Originally posted by Xandax
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:rolleyes:

hehe - 600 damage per swing? - Must be some "Bonus against Whiner spec"

Lol love that one !

Nice when I TS at amg, spot an infil, crit, shoot, shoot, shoot, dead infil. Albeit, he started running towards me after he woke up with 800+ hp down.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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what Remi said



most ppl are buffed anyway
 
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leorin

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Originally posted by manaBomBer
Hrm, how can you say most SBs are buffed? What do know that supports this?

And, how can the thread starter possibly know that the SB was buffed? Maybe he/she has SC gear.

Assuming someone was buffed just because you got beat, isn't the way to go (imho).

I suppose u only been in BG so far.........
 
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acei

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Although i am sick of the issue of buff bots because they're a major pain in the ****.... but your problem has nothing to do with buff bots. If i see someone and i have buffs spare and he seems alright i will FULLY buff him until i need to use that conc and my cleric is in no way a bot as it's my main char.

Now if you want to complain about buff bots putting cleric out of work then i would agree.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by acei

Now if you want to complain about buff bots putting cleric out of work then i would agree.

as a healer and a shaman, i'd dissagree.

its not my job to buff random ppl. i buff my grp, if one of them has a bot, then power to him, means my conc isn't spread as thinly.


while bots can provide excelent help to a grp, they can't do the main job of the class (heal and cc) as the focus of the player is on the other char.
 
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acei

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
as a healer and a shaman, i'd dissagree.

its not my job to buff random ppl. i buff my grp, if one of them has a bot, then power to him, means my conc isn't spread as thinly.


while bots can provide excelent help to a grp, they can't do the main job of the class (heal and cc) as the focus of the player is on the other char.
I agree with you our main job is heal for most clerics, but i've noticed some groups have started to ignore clerics and just use buff bots to buff their entire group and leave their buff bot at the keep and then go off and fight without a cleric.... i think groups should have 2 clerics or more simply because of our heal AND stun abilities.
 
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svartmetall

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Buffbots are fucking lame.

People who use buffbots are fucking lame; there's no difference between "winning" a CS game by using a wallhack and "winning" a DAOC encounter by using a buffbot, might as well hold up a big neon sign saying "I'm lame and have to use a buffbot to win".

End of story.
 
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bishibosh

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The general point is, when u chose a class, u chose a race with it etc, and chose how to spend ur 30 initial points etc etc, then build up char trying to get stats high as possible bearing in mind the limitations of the race u chose, IE, kobold sb should evade and hit faster, but for less damage than a norseman. The whole class/race balancing goes totally out of the window when soloers use buffbots, it makes things like how you spent your 30, or which race you chose totally insignificant. An example of this would be -with a buffboted scout, the best race to chose would probably be a highlander, insane slash and bow dmg with buffs. Its stupid
 
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bishibosh

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Originally posted by svartmetall
Buffbots are fucking lame.

People who use buffbots are fucking lame; there's no difference between "winning" a CS game by using a wallhack and "winning" a DAOC encounter by using a buffbot, might as well hold up a big neon sign saying "I'm lame and have to use a buffbot to win".

End of story.

what we need in a patch is something that makes the targeted persons buffs appear - so for instance when you click on a friend whos not grped as a cleric, you can see which buffs, and also you can see wether the fight your having is fair. And no i dont give a crap that it stops ppls legitimate buffing in grps privacy lol
 
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svartmetall

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It's actually a tricky one, because BB users could go "well I pay twice as much to play so I can do what I want" or "it's how I choose to play the game so STFU"...IMO BBs are totally against the co-operative ethos of the game itself.

Oh, and utterly lame, in case I didn't establish the "lame" motif strongly enough before.
 

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