BUFFBOTS - </whine> -in-

[Novamir]

we will never agree on buffbots. it gives a "solo" player the effective untouchable buffs of two players, and this option is not available to all soloers, thus introducing a way for someone to gain a big advantage over others.

 

[Falcor]

Buff bots suck, u r playing a 2v1 battle cuz the little bastards who use em r cowards....u wonder why ppl r solo in emain, fact is sometimes u gotta be solo to get to a group etc,

simple fact is buff bots give an unfair advantage to ppl who have 2 computers, which imo is wrong, as a tank it pisses me off to get beat by soem crappy little kobold who cant survive without his buffs,also now theres seems more and more shadowblades camping atk-amg road (seen 6 or so there a time 6 pa's hurts =/) and most of them r buffed.(dunno if infils do the same at mtk) Dont mind them grouping together, its what games for just making point.

U cant make excuses for using a buff bot, it is simple cheating, one person plays one charecter at a time, not 2. Soloing can be great fun having long fights with heros etc i find fantastic fun, and i have met some damn good shadowblades who have killed me without using a damn bot, much more fun having good fights.

It goes for same with skalds, i find it tbh even more sick the ppl who need there buff bots to kill grey cons in sauvage, huntahhh is one, no skill just buffed...and there r others

 

[Hit ^_^]

Originally posted by old.Nol

Basically a buffbot provides you with an extra 20 or so buffs, in a group it means a naturalists/mages can focus their conc on other buffs/resists, it can make a huge difference to the hitpoints/evade/crit of chars.

ye but group ppl whit buffbots are about equaly common in all realms thats makes them take eachother out so no big diff. and mostly its not the buffs that makes a group win its their "skill" if its not the "zerg" we are talking about.


ps.resists buffs dont use conc it only sucks a bit power and are on a timer."

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by falcor

simple fact is buff bots give an unfair advantage to ppl who have 2 computers, which imo is wrong

Gives the same advantage as having a friend.
2 V 1 you shoudn't win.

Either get a friend or get a buffbot, but dont cry when a you die to assasins while soloing. It's assasins jobs to kill solo ppl. Get a group and it wont happen.

 

[old.anubis]

who cares if you lose to 2 assasins or to assasin + buffbot? is there any difference?
just dont go solo

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by Hit ^_^

ye but group ppl whit buffbots are about equaly common in all realms thats makes them take eachother out so no big diff. and mostly its not the buffs that makes a group win its their "skill" if its not the "zerg" we are talking about.


ps.resists buffs dont use conc it only sucks a bit power and are on a timer."

not true mate, I have never been in a group that has been buffed externally, but anyway.

IMO buff bots are basically cheating, more so the daoc unleashed. Daoc unleashed will give you illicit information, buff bots give you the ability to defeat classes you were never meant to defeat.

I would rather meet a person using daoc nleashed then a person using buffbots, I have very little chance against loads of characters as it is, I have no chance when they are buffed to hilt.

 

[Hit ^_^]

buffs were made for making your char better to beat ppl you dont normaly beat. thats the whole meaning to buffs.

 

[old.Nol]

I take it you use a buffbot, because only the people that do use a buffbot think it's ok.

 

[old.Tdaer]

hmmm ,people are getting the wrong impression here ...

my point was, and lemme try and explain it again...

Why did i start a ranger ? To Solo ? Right.

I like that capabilities of rangers . .stealthers running around , sniping people and then dissapearing into thin air.

So i spent 35 days of play to get my ranger to lvl 50. Then Mythic changes the class SO drastically... That it's nearly impossible for ANY ranger to solo anymore.

So now im stuck.. I have a char that i made casue it could solo, and now i'm forced to group because mythic changed the class.

ok.

so here goes the elph running into emain.. gimped as he can be... and get owned by a infil. looking at the logs realizing u hit the infil for nearly 1500 damage, and the infil never used IP / FA...

so u get a buffbot. making things a little more fair vs those people that HAVE buffs all the time.

I blame mythic for the buffbot problem, and i doubt that they will change the way it works now. which is rather sad.

If the do ... well i will probably be forced to group all the time. And that's REALLY not fun at all. So probably quit this game.

ZERG ZERG ZERG ZERG !! no fun.

anyways. just some thoughts.


So next time u run into someone thats buffed, and u get pwnd.. it's not a solo player that killed u with a buffbot. It's probably some groups rogue /minstrel scouting the area...

 

[skile]

Ok, so you are saying that to have a chance you need to be unfair. HEY! here is this for a change! LOOSE your buffbot.

Don't come saying "ok, now I've been bad, we are a lot of bad persons, join up! since we are many! it's all ok! comon join the club so I can feel a bit better about my unfair self".

 

[Cowled]

If it wasn't for whining mofos, scouts wouldn't be nerfed...

Stop whining!

Accept the rules ingame, and stop changing them.

 

[Cowled]

Originally posted by old.Tdaer
hmmm ,people are getting the wrong impression here ...

my point was, and lemme try and explain it again...

Why did i start a ranger ? To Solo ? Right.

I like that capabilities of rangers . .stealthers running around , sniping people and then dissapearing into thin air.

So i spent 35 days of play to get my ranger to lvl 50. Then Mythic changes the class SO drastically... That it's nearly impossible for ANY ranger to solo anymore.

So now im stuck.. I have a char that i made casue it could solo, and now i'm forced to group because mythic changed the class.

ok.

so here goes the elph running into emain.. gimped as he can be... and get owned by a infil. looking at the logs realizing u hit the infil for nearly 1500 damage, and the infil never used IP / FA...

so u get a buffbot. making things a little more fair vs those people that HAVE buffs all the time.

SO TRUUUE

 

[old.DachraK]

Buffbot = not fair chance = lame

 

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by old.anubis
who cares if you lose to 2 assasins or to assasin + buffbot? is there any difference?
just dont go solo

Wot about those assasins who dont got buffbots?? They should killed solo ppl but they cant with all the other buffed assasins roaming about.

Dont go solo?? Well u r an assasin 2, n as u prolly already know, we r the last option for a rvr group.

So u r saying: if u wanna play a solo character get a buffbot or go play a bard/cleric/tank/pbt..... Well if this is GOA way of think they should set an advice when u r chosing ur character:
WARNING!! U r about to chose a solo player, buy another account n get a buffbot or u will be pissed. Mmmhh think i can hear GOA´s money machine running

 

[old.Kerosene]

Just make it so buffs don't work until you are out of range of the keep (say 1500). Job's a good 'en. Would be funny as hell to see all the stealthers return to their PK because someone's twatted all the buff bots about at PK.

 

[old.Nol]

I say make it so you have to remain in range for the buff to work, the range should be quite large though...then we can go look for easter eggs

<Nolerdraic stares at Grommit hiding behind a tree>
Remember that time in the gorge <twat>
and that other time in the gorge <twat>
and there was that time in the gorge <twat>

will be a whole lot of twatting

 

[alme]

Buffbots suck and will always suck for those who dont have one..
But if some1 wanna spend that extra cash just so they can have a buffbot, let em. More fun killing buffed ppl anyway

 

[Noche]

Originally posted by alme
Buffbots suck and will always suck for those who dont have one..
But if some1 wanna spend that extra cash just so they can have a buffbot, let em. More fun killing buffed ppl anyway

The problem´s actually being able to kill em

Same thing could be said by those buff botted mincers, since they can´t kill skalds/assasins/archers alone they need buffs to be able to play "FAIR"...

The sad part is that ppl might actually think that mincers r overpowered classes (I REALLY did at old time with other chars and less played time)... which even being an hib I can say (now)they rn´t, they r balanced class maybe a bit weak, but FAR from overpowered.

 

[nerve]

Hmmmmm....

Anyone ever considered how Alchemy (potions) will solve this issue ? As in, be your own buffbot...

 

[Jiggs]

Re: Hmmmmm....

Originally posted by nerve
Anyone ever considered how Alchemy (potions) will solve this issue ? As in, be your own buffbot...

erm lets me see: because its not as good

 

[dakeyras]

Re: Hmmmmm....

Originally posted by nerve
Anyone ever considered how Alchemy (potions) will solve this issue ? As in, be your own buffbot...

It won't make much difference. Even the higher level potions are very weak compared to a full enhance buff i.e. stat increase of 30 compared to 125 (and 10 min duration) and they don't stack

 

[nerve]

Re: Re: Hmmmmm....

Originally posted by dakeyras


It won't make much difference. Even the higher level potions are very weak compared to a full enhance buff i.e. stat increase of 30 compared to 125 (and 10 min duration) and they don't stack

Oh bah, two words then:

NERF BUFFBOTS

 

[Dagalush]

hah, the anti-buffbot morons who do nothing but whine and are cheap (_!_) should be brought out and shot in public. You are the stupid ones running about unbuffed and ungrouped, you have yourselves to blame... do not take the poor results of your own stupidity out on the smart people, kthx.

 

[Dagalush]

Originally posted by Novamir
we will never agree on buffbots. it gives a "solo" player the effective untouchable buffs of two players, and this option is not available to all soloers, thus introducing a way for someone to gain a big advantage over others.

bwhahaha, yes it is available to everybody... if you can't afford the small amount of money it cost to have a spare account and a low end computer for the bot then why are u even playing daoc, go get a job or whatever.

 

[Tranquil-]

Rofl..
Glad ppl still play this game to have fun..
Whatever that means

 

[Noche]

Dagalush... ehe... ya teh l33t...

 

[bishibosh]

Originally posted by Dagalush


bwhahaha, yes it is available to everybody... if you can't afford the small amount of money it cost to have a spare account and a low end computer for the bot then why are u even playing daoc, go get a job or whatever.

because people with jobs dont have 20+ spare days /played to level a buffbot for the sole purpose of gaining an unfair advantage, who would have time for that???? aaah ye, more like the unemployed.

 

[skile]

Dagalush? Is it a smart thing paying ~10 dollars extra per month when it's totally unecessary? We would all save money if everyone removed their buffbot. Simple and cheap!

Other than that it's the morals that should be put #1. Not wheter or not you can do it. Why did people start using buffbots in the first place? Why? To gain an advantage over people who don't have one. Wrong? Ofcourse.

 

[daphatfriar]

Interestingly enough if we were playing a FPs (say Q3 or UT2k3) anyone known to be using an unfair advantage in a game would be booted off whatever server they were on and most people wouldn't bother to play with them again. I wonder if I sent extra money to the makers of FPS games so I could cheat quite happily during every game I played online would they fix it for me to do so? I don't bloody think so...

Not worth discussing it really. The ball ain't in our court it's in the hands of those we pay money to. Whether they take the trouble to listen to the overwhelming majority of people who disagree with their use and pay one subsciption only or the minority who have paid twice as much for this edge over other players seems only show a disregard for the greater proportion of their customers

 

[belth]

Don't worry Dagalush, us smart people won't ridicule your stupidity. Afterall, making fun of someone with 0 IQ isn't very entertaining. Do you condone using radar and other cheats also? They're much more damaging to the game, but still.