EU could field more soldiers though. Don't know the actual numbers, but isn't it EU 600 million people, US 380 millions or some such?
But seriously i do not think we should be spending the money now while we are fighting 2 desert wars.
sheesh, do you people really think that the US is -that- much superior in military terms?
....I imagine that a few trained yanks with decent equipment would have very little trouble killing.....
I would imagine any trained people from any nationality would be able to do just what you described as trined implies they know what they doing and how to go about doing it as opposed to villagers.
Will be US vs Europe, the UK would stay out of it then bitch slap the winner and start the second Brittish Empier!
Or say we are on americas side and just keep killing them claiming friendly fire?
All I was trying to get at was the number of villagers (on either side) is pretty much irrelevant since they simply don't factor into a modern day war.
It all comes down to who has the best technology and trained people to use it.. I can't answer who would win that, as I imagine most people here also can't because half the answers will be very classified.
Yeah but cHodAX....we got ze germans. 5-10 to he EU :lol:
I can answer it for you. The American military budget is 5 times larger than the military budget of all the EU countries combined.
1-0 to the yanks
We would have to rely on the French who would surrender or hide the moment an enemy takes the first mile of territory on Frech soil. That is all the beach-head the yanks would ever need.
2-0 to the yanks
Technology, we have no stealth flight ability. We could develop it but long before that happens the war would have been lost.
3-0 to the yanks
Tanks. Tanks win wars, Europe doesn't have anywhere near enough, we could mass produce them in a war but you lose the first 12 months because of the yanks sheer numbers and quality.
4-0 to the tanks err yanks
Sea power. The Americans can project thier sea power globally and have the most diverse sea forces on the planet. Simply put they could take on the entire European fleet with just their own North Altantic fleet and win convincingly in a matter of weeks.
5-0 to the yanks
I could go on, in more detail. The fact remains, the EU member countries have been effectively disarming themselves since the end of the cold war and would not hold back a concerted American attack for more than a few months. Funny thing though, around about a yearago something changed and all of a sudden many military projects and aquisitions got the greenlight across Europe after being on hold for years.
You all remember the Litvinenko assasination in London right? Then Russia starting to fly fully armed patrols within 4 miles of British airspace so as to bully Britain into backing down. Well that scared alot of people at the top, you see Putin had just put the funds inplace for Russia to rebuild it's strategic bomber and interceptor forces. He also started funding the refit of a huge portion of thier tanks to bring them upto par with the best Europe has to offer. You now start to a see a picture forming, Russia is tooling up and it has scared many nations in Europe into doing the same. That is the whole reason for these 2 new carriers, don't buy into any bullshit about terrorism or the middle east. This is all about being able to project masses of air power from anywhere in the world more importantly it offers Britain a moving airforce should Russia ever choose to take out our airfields for any reason.
Excuse me but if Europe nuked the USA and they nuked off, who gives a fuck about how many tanks they have or how much they spent on their budget?
Talking of tanks, the Challenger mk2 is actually the better tank. Doesn't matter tho, it is a melted lump of metal.
Stealth? Our radar will most probably detect the US warplanes.
Sea power? The americans may have the biggest aircraft carriers but the UK has some of the best stealth submarines. A draw I think.
Actually the Eurofighter can hold its own with the F22 or whatever it is now. If Europe clubbed together or just said "hi" to china, the usa would shit themselves more than Chodax would on a curry night.
I'm unsure how a country that's lost 2 world wars counts for 10 points, but I don't make them rulez so yay EU!
..... the T-34's were enough for Russia during WW2 against the much superior Tigers and Panzers.....
Their T-34 was the best in the world.
I'm unsure how a country that's lost 2 world wars counts for 10 points, but I don't make them rulez so yay EU!
I would go as far as to say that Germany would have won if they had not gone for Russia, they had both superior troops and tanks - the only area where the US/UK were better was in the air, I have a strong feeling that if Germany mobilized now they would probably out-troop the UK easily and they could probably afford alot more toys.
Finland, and not really because of their troops - more because of the lack of winter clothing on the enemies
Each of them are 3 times the size of our current aircraft carriers...