Politics Brexit (England leaving the UK)

[Ormorof]

So despite being given a 70% cut to planned taxes HSBC may still cut 20% of staff in UK in case of brexit

Osborne got a great deal there

 

[Scouse]

The fact is, Britain and it's outliers is the tax-dodging haven to be in.

 

[Bodhi]

Apart from those pesky Irish and Dutch and their double sandwiches

 

[throdgrain]

I don't want to leave the EU. I'd like it to continue as the trade agreement set up between nations of a similar living standard that it was when we joined.

However it doesn't seem that it will ever go back to that, so I see no option but to vote to leave.

 

[Scouse]

I'd like it to continue as the trade agreement set up between nations of a similar living standard

So, like a gated community of rich countries together with no social contract? i.e. no moral driver to help bring the living standards of other humans outside the gate up to the same?

Sort of like a "fuck the rest of the world" club?

 

[Gwadien]

So, like a gated community of rich countries together with no social contract? i.e. no moral driver to help bring the living standards of other humans outside the gate up to the same?

Sort of like a "fuck the rest of the world" club?

Surely in its current format, it could be (Tin foil hat, perhaps) argued that the EU is simply supporting eastern european countries as a future source of migration for when our demographics go wonky; we improve the infrastructure of those countries, so people are loyal enough to stay there and live, but send over their hard working men to support our massive pension bill?

 

[Raven]

So, like a gated community of rich countries together with no social contract? i.e. no moral driver to help bring the living standards of other humans outside the gate up to the same?

Sort of like a "fuck the rest of the world" club?

Why should we prop up other societies? They are perfectly capable of providing for themselves. Europe should be mutually beneficial for those involved, freedom of movement and freedom of trade. Not a handful of countries wiping the arse of the rest.

 

[throdgrain]

So, like a gated community of rich countries together with no social contract? i.e. no moral driver to help bring the living standards of other humans outside the gate up to the same?

Sort of like a "fuck the rest of the world" club?

What's wrong with that?

 

[Scouse]

What's wrong with that?

To be honest, if you don't already know the answer to that then there's no helping you.

But I'll throw in a pic for shits n giggles.

 

[Raven]

I'm confused, are you suggesting they are stupid, or incapable of looking after themselves?

 

[Bodhi]

I just thought he was on his high horse again calling us all scum.

/Meh.

 

[throdgrain]

To be honest, if you don't already know the answer to that then there's no helping you.

But I'll throw in a pic for shits n giggles.

Listen. I don't care. Bringing us down to someone else's standards is not what I hope to achieve.

This isn't an argument, I'm not trying to convince you that we should look after our own and ourselves, I'm just trying to tell you what I want, and what I will vote for.