Bombs in London

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Svartmetall said:
The people who did this are scum...worthless fucking scum who need to die. Nothing justifies pre-meditatedly murdering innocent people like this.

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Totally agree, i can't stand coward bastards like these.

I live not far from the bombs and i am shocked by what has happened aswell as sad, i usually go russell square often and i can imagine how much people were involved in this uncalled for horrific tradegy. :(

I really do not know what to say right now, i just hope those involved recover from this and many lives aren't lost, those families involved who have lost loved ones my thoughts are with them right now.
 

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Will the people actually get caught for this? I mean, where's Osama now, hiding in a cave somewhere. Don't get me wrong the ***** need finding, drawn and quatred whilest they're alive, bastards.

Sympathy to those who have lost friends and family in this attack.
 

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There is a big difference between having a serious stance against terrorism and having a good enough infrastructure to be able to deal with the attacks when they happen. Many bombings both in England and here in Northern Ireland over the years created nothing but panic for the first few hours at least. London seems to be at a standstill but at least everyone seems calm and the situation appears under control (as much as it can be).
 

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i got a friend in the police who's part of the anti-terrorist unit and he's told me that London is probably the most well equiped city in the world when it comes to attacks. 30-40 years of IRA bombings and since 9/11, London has prepared itself for this type of thing.
 

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Ballard said:
Yep choosing 'soft' civilian targets rather than goverment instalations is pretty fuckin low and in my book that means you should forfeit almost all your rights... I know we are at war but even war has boundaries.

It's not like the US distinguish between civilian and military targets. They have killed over 10x more civilians than organised resistance/military. But of course, none of that is reported.
 

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Thats what I was trying to say, London has coped very well with the attack. Unfortunately we cannot say if it would have coped as well before 9/11 but I think not. It is just sad that these things have to be prepared for at all.

Looking at all the injured my heart just goes out to them. I cannot imagine what it must be like to be there now... :(
 

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Escape said:
It's not like the US distinguish between civilian and military targets. They have killed over 10x more civilians than organised resistance/military. But of course, none of that is reported.

Thats whan they aren't shooting their own troops ;)
 

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Denmark / italy is next, says the Al Quaeda, according to danish news.
 

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The people who did this are scum...worthless fucking scum who need to die. Nothing justifies pre-meditatedly murdering innocent people like this.

Scum that maybe, but deserve to die? No.

Don't you see that's how the vicious cycle perpetuates itself, hate is never the answer. Those responcible need to be bought to justice, but they must not be made into martyrs.
 

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I feel sorry for everyone caught up in it the first thing i did was phone my uncle to make sure he was safely in work, luckily he starts early so missed everything.

But i dont want to see another long drawn out war for this tbh id rather see the special forces go in and get the prople who are responsible.
 

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one of the main reasons why im glad i live up north, the other being farther away from france.. but i hope are all ok down there
 

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I live in norfolk, a fair way away from all this, but seeing it on the TV this morning shocked me.

My uncle was down there at a concert a few weeks ago, my pearants where down that way in januaray, I cant stop thinking "what would've happened had they chosen to go today".

I cant think what it much be like for those people who have loved ones down there right now.


Job said:
Thousands die in Iraq to suicide bombs...boring!!!!

Bombs in London.....holy crap it's important now!!!

I cant help but be offended by the way you say this. Probably people are looking for someone to lay the blame on anyway, and comments like this will only incite more anger.

I'm hoping to join the forces, and so I am always watching the news and feeling bad about those soldiers who have been hurt or killed there, but seeing it in england, "on our doorstep" as someone else said, makes it seem a whole lot worse, suddenly its not soldiers that have signed up for this kind of thing who are getting bombed, its joe bloggs on his way into work.

This is bad news for everyone, as it means terrorists are still out there, muslim or not, and so the "war on terror" will continue and the likelyhood of things like this happening again will rise.

As that bloke on the news put it; "not a good day".
 

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i doubt youd have any war from this. Mainly who would u go after? its not like there is oil we want, oh erm i mean Mr osama in afgan/iraq to go after.

As far as special forces go not much chance of a lead there. You need help usually from other government to allow you to deploy troops, which we prob wont get. also u need the intell and feet on the group and the regiment and also their pathfinder and otehr support elements are really overstretched.

Im more hoping there will be sum effort to make sum talks. IMO britain has the best military in the world (the yanks have hi tech and numbers, but are not very well trained at all) but changing the world is prob beyond them.
 

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i heard of a collleague that some suicide bombers were caught near canary wharf
 

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Bahumat said:
i heard of a collleague that some suicide bombers were caught near canary wharf

some one told me that they caught one in Heathrow too...nothing on any of the major news sites tho.
 

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If they caught anyone I think it would be on the news pretty quick.. after all people love having someone to point at and blame.
 

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I've heard nothing about people being caught on any of the news on the tv or radio, but I suppose thats to be expected that the news would be kept out of the picture untill the authorities know more.

How reliable is all this?
 

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elisera said:
If they caught anyone I think it would be on the news pretty quick.. after all people love having someone to point at and blame.

I think if they caugh someone they would not tell any one untill they had all the information possible from them.
 

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elisera said:
Thats whan they aren't shooting their own troops ;)

Or worse... Ours :(

Regardless, there is currently no deterrent strong enough here in the UK to prevent these kind of attacks...

We send them to jail (if we can catch them)... In the case of the usual extremists, they're usually prepared to die for their cause anyway... Holy war, doing the work of God shit... They wouldn't give a shit about the prospect of jail time...

Execution in the form of hanging, shooting, lethal injection etc... Again reasonably quick and not a deterrent as they're prepared to die anyway...

Which brings me back to my original statement... A slow, drawn out, painful, brutal process of total humiliation, degredation, torture and ultimately death whilst extending the process out as long as possible seems justified...

It's unpleasant, flies in the face against all conventions for human rights and is a horrific step for a so called 'civilised society' like we have in Europe but it's possibly the only way to make these bastards think twice before they commit these acts against defenseless 'soft targets' trying to go about their daily lives (or make sure they kill themselves in the process)...

When will they understand that killing civilians will never achieve their goals. The governments in question are never directly affected. Whilst they may be deeply sadened by such events will just strengthen their resolve to continue with their chosen courses of action
 

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Nothing OFFICIAL would be said until they have all the facts but lets face it the media would jump on something like that as soon as they caught wind of it - which I'm assuming wouldnt be too hard if everyones co-workers etc managed to find out with no problem...
 

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Mirt said:
They've always been serious about terrorism. This is not the first or the last time London has been bombed. Other than make a lot of headlines this won't have much effect on the global scale, although I bet Blair uses this to push through the hateful ID card leglisation.


From what I hear the world market is also affected by this,
but what am I doing here now talking about money..

People have died and are dieing over there.


One of my great fears, is that this someday will happen close to me. Not only do I fear to loose those close to me, I also fear that I might give in to the hatred.



My thoughts are with those whom are touched by this terrible act of inhumanity. I can't even imagine how it's like.
 

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hate leads to more hate,
its a unjustified war we started in the first place that caused all of this... remember that
 

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Chronictank said:
its a unjustified war we started in the first place that caused all of this... remember that

Ok, I'll play ball here...

How did we start it?

I look forward to your response
 

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Latest news i got is that there are already 40 ppl dead :( and about 150 seriously wounded.

Lets hope it stays with that number.
 

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Chronictank said:
hate leads to more hate,
its a unjustified war we started in the first place that caused all of this... remember that

we? I was against the war, but we still have to take the consequences for other peoples actions
 

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Dakkath said:
Ok, I'll play ball here...

How did we start it?

I look forward to your response
We went looking ofr non-existant weapons of mass destruction
Sadaam cooperated weapon inspectors found nothing, but we went to war anyway.
yrs on we still have no weapons, Sadaam is being tried for war crimes which under the Geneva convention is illegal to do as a leader cant be held accountable for his/her actions during war time and troops die everyday.
We held a election where people who dont even live in the country can vote

Shock horror the war is now on our doorsteps..
go figure

I was 5 mins from being in the mess of it, but doesnt mean im gona start hating people because of it. They are stupid and misguided, but no less than Bush and his pet Blair
 

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ive heard in danish tv 20min ago,, that some soldiers had killed 2 ppl , they think is 2 terrorist, nothing 100% sure, and i surely dont hope they come to denmark, tho im not the person that takes train very much, and i dont live in copenhagen where they might plant bombs, but i do take buss often
 

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Which brings me back to my original statement... A slow, drawn out, painful, brutal process of total humiliation, degredation, torture and ultimately death whilst extending the process out as long as possible seems justified...

And what would that achieve exactly? It would bring us down to their level, and it would make martyrs (think of what the Romans did to Jesus)... No thanks!


If I die due to terrorism I would not want that done in my name (and I might, I live and work in London).
 

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