TV BNP to appear on Question Time

[Tom]

Blacky, I suggest you have a think about that. Do you really think that Digger went in smashing up valuable and expensive gravestones? Or is it more likely that the gravestones were flogged by the landowner/leaseholder, and the digger went in with a load of hardcore to level the site? Its funny isn't it, how the photographer didn't take those pictures.

One broken gravestone does not equal a graveyard full of smashed gravestones, in fact a digger couldn't possibly reduce those stones to a pile of rubble as illustrated, its impossible.

 

[Moriath]

i dont agree on any censorship and if a particular party be it green or bnp have a point of view i think everyone should ghear it.

How is to say that you shouldnt hear this or that ..

You might not agree with what is being said ... but anything being said should be given the same rights as anything else.

If it is racist or derogatory it doesnt matter .. there is posative descrimination against whites in this country so why should the negative be shown as well ..

I have friends who are of all nationalities .. Ok not all but a fair few .... and dont see whu anything should be censored..

Its not a case of who is right its a case of what right do i have to stop you saying anything ?

 

[Tom]

If it is racist or derogatory it doesnt matter .. there is posative descrimination against whites in this country so why should the negative be shown as well ..

Yes it does matter actually, and I'm unaware of any positive discrimination that has force of law behind it.

There are limits on free speech, and rightly so. With rights, come responsibilities.

 

[chipper]

I think most people realise the bnp are racist

But if the BNP are so bad, what possessed so many people to vote for them?

the simple answer is this they are saying things the british public want to hear, agree with me or dont the fact they have an MP speaks for its self. saying the ppl that did so are idiots is frankly very ignorant. or do you know the ppl who voted for them personally? just because you disagree with someone doesnt make them idiots.

ive never voted BNP i doubt i ever will im under no illusion what they are about they want a pure white english society sound familiar? for me it always used to be labour brain washed been a yorkshireman you vote labour cos those nasty tories fucked us over miners strike etc. now im a bit wiser and think fuck labour and conservatives cos they are so out of touch with the majority of the population its mind boggling. UKIP all the way for me atm.

back on track tho
it will be an interesting debate and i cant wait too see the major parties sweat when it comes round to immigration and europe. i have no doubts that the BNP will hang themselves, i think thats why they will be allowed to air their views. the thing is this ban has created so much media around the bnp over the past few years its created a huge interest in the BNP and its drawn people in maybe when the public see what they are all about they will decide to support a less extreme party.

 

[rynnor]

I think the mainstream parties have been rather stupid avoiding any real discussions on Immigration and Social Cohesion in the UK due to a prevailing belief that it wasnt politically correct.

By doing this they made a space that extremists like the BNP could inhabit completely un-challenged and use to build support by appealing to many peoples genuine concerns on these issues.

Hopefully if the BNP appear on mainstream TV the other parties may finally be forced to confront these issues - I wouldnt get too excited tho - the BBC is the home of political correctness...

 

[`mongoose]

Tbh you can't exactly blame the bbc for being overly politically correct. If any of their presenters show the slightest hint of political affiliation or any opinion that can be ascribed to a political party all the other politicians start whinging about the political bias within the bbc.

M

 

[Nate]

I'm sure I read somewhere they've refused to go on the programme anyway.

 

[rynnor]

Tbh you can't exactly blame the bbc for being overly politically correct. If any of their presenters show the slightest hint of political affiliation or any opinion that can be ascribed to a political party all the other politicians start whinging about the political bias within the bbc.

M

I didnt mean Political Neutrality - which ofc. they should maintain at all times.

I mean the way they shy away from any issues that could offend some minority - like the way they covered the increase in UK birth rate whilst skirting over the fact that the increase is down to immigrants having children here.

I dont think its a sin to discuss Immigration policy but it seems to have become a political taboo...

 

[megadave]

My local BNP candidate introduced themself as Irish then went on to talk about how immigration is ruining the country.

Anyone else see the stupidity in that?

 

[Lollie]

My local BNP candidate introduced themself as Irish then went on to talk about how immigration is ruining the country.

Anyone else see the stupidity in that?

i guess it depends on which part of ireland they are talking about, i would class someone from scotland living in england as an immigrant

 

[`mongoose]

I didnt mean Political Neutrality - which ofc. they should maintain at all times.

I mean the way they shy away from any issues that could offend some minority - like the way they covered the increase in UK birth rate whilst skirting over the fact that the increase is down to immigrants having children here.

I dont think its a sin to discuss Immigration policy but it seems to have become a political taboo...

Is it really an issue rynnor? What were you expecting them to report on?

M

 

[00dave]

i would class someone from scotland living in england as a miserable sod

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but with reguards to the BNP on question time, I hope it happens just for the entertainment value. The mp expenses episode was enjoyable, this would just be hilarious. Mainly because the BNP would get shot down in flames I think.

 

[Tom]

My local BNP candidate introduced themself as Irish then went on to talk about how immigration is ruining the country.

Anyone else see the stupidity in that?

Yes but he's the right kind of immigrant so that doesn't matter...

Griffin lives in Wales, and aside from the fact that Wales isn't a nation, could I suppose also be considered an immigrant

 

[yaruar]

My local BNP candidate introduced themself as Irish then went on to talk about how immigration is ruining the country.

Anyone else see the stupidity in that?

Well seeing as the official solution the BNP give to northern ireland is making Eire pare of the UK it's not that suprising

 

[Cemeterygates]

My local BNP candidate introduced themself as Irish then went on to talk about how immigration is ruining the country.

Anyone else see the stupidity in that?

Isn't the BNP all about Anglo Saxon and Celtic heritage though?

 

[Trem]

So why is the BNP frowned upon so much? Why is the SNP not frowned upon the same, why is it fine for Wales or Scotland to have their own party for their own local people but not England?

What the fuck is going on, an English party does not mean they are raving Nazi's and like I have said before the BNP are the only party to have an undercover tv show made about them, do that with any other party and the same facism will be shown.

Drives me fucking mad it does, not that I would ever vote BNP but why can every other nation have their own party but as soon as we do its racist?

 

[Tom]

It isn't about that Trem. The BNP is a racist party, led by a former member of the national directorate of the National Front, and a holocaust revisionist.

Also, I don't believe the SNP has any clauses that restrict membership to white Scots only.

 

[Trem]

It isn't about that Trem. The BNP is a racist party, led by a former member of the national directorate of the National Front, and a holocaust revisionist.

Also, I don't believe the SNP has any clauses that restrict membership to white Scots only.

So do you think that an Englishman could join the SNP, or lets say would they get accepted?

I don't think they would somehow.

Theres open racism then theres hidden racism and I think most parties are the latter with the BNP being the former.

 

[Tom]

Englishmen can join the SNP if they want. I believe the SNP has fielded English candidates.

 

[Trem]

Englishmen can join the SNP if they want. I believe the SNP has fielded English candidates.

Really?

Any links?

 

[Tom]

Michael Russell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Trem]

Michael Russell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmmm surprising, any other English in SNP?

 

[Tom]

The Scottish Parliament  - Current Members - Ian McKee

 

[Trem]

The Scottish Parliament *-*Current Members*-*Ian McKee

Oh come on chum his bloody name is McKee

 

[Ch3tan]

So why is the BNP frowned upon so much? Why is the SNP not frowned upon the same, why is it fine for Wales or Scotland to have their own party for their own local people but not England?

What the fuck is going on, an English party does not mean they are raving Nazi's and like I have said before the BNP are the only party to have an undercover tv show made about them, do that with any other party and the same facism will be shown.

Drives me fucking mad it does, not that I would ever vote BNP but why can every other nation have their own party but as soon as we do its racist?

Honestly Trem? That is just shit stirring, the BNP can claim to be whatever they want, it does not change what they are at the core. It's that kind of argument that attracts members and voters to the BNP in the first place.

 

[Wij]

Anyway - BNP are British not specifically English.

For a sort-of SNP equivalent there's the English Democrats. Totally different policies but they want an independant England.

BNP is just about 'dem fooking nig-nogs' and 'terk err jooobs' etc...

 

[00dave]

I can see what Trem is saying, there is no representation for the voice of English people in parliament so we get shafted by the Scottish and Welsh.
However Trem the BNP aren't really the answer. You're probably better of checking these guys out Putting England first

 

[Trem]

Honestly Trem? That is just shit stirring, the BNP can claim to be whatever they want, it does not change what they are at the core. It's that kind of argument that attracts members and voters to the BNP in the first place.

It isn't mate, what I am saying is what Dave gets. It seems we aren't allowed a voice, BNP is not the answer I know this.

I can see what Trem is saying, there is no representation for the voice of English people in parliament so we get shafted by the Scottish and Welsh.
However Trem the BNP aren't really the answer. You're probably better of checking these guys out Putting England first

Hmmm I will read up on them.

 

[`mongoose]

It isn't mate, what I am saying is what Dave gets. It seems we aren't allowed a voice, BNP is not the answer I know this.

Dunno why you think that Trem. I think we are allowed a voice it's just that most people either don't use it or don't use the channels that exist for it.

How many times have you contacted your local MP or councillor for instance? I don't even know my local councillors name, but I do know he helped our neighbourhood fight off a stupid housing project and now we get letters every time this development group try and redevelop our alotments.

I realise it's not a race issue but on the time when we needed action we went to see our local councillor who helped us.

As for the whole BNP thing, there's a world of difference between "honest talk" and those bunch of thugs. For the record any party who espouse bigotted or racist views are no better in my eyes.

M

 

[Trem]

How many times have you contacted your local MP or councillor for instance? I don't even know my local councillors name, but I do know he helped our neighbourhood fight off a stupid housing project and now we get letters every time this development group try and redevelop our alotments.

I actually ring him daily, I'm like Ned Flanders with the Reverend

I am going to start kicking up a fuss soon actually, it will start with the council and if they don't fix the slabs by my nans flat I shall speak to an MP. I mean it I have a big fucking bee in my bonnet about this, she has tripped countless times and the last time she broke her nose. Shes partially sighted as well.

Theres a Trem storm a-coming