Blade temp :)

[Aloca]

Not to show to much information but is this ok stat wise.

Stats
Str:101
Hits:400
Con:81
Dex:25
Qui:43

Resists (10+ So enemies need to guess what is capped and what is just 10)
Body:27
Energy:10+(5)
Crush:26 (5)
Cold:10+
Matter:10+
Thrust:26
Heat:26
Spirit:10+
Slash:27

Skills
11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Blades

Cap Increases
5 Dexterity
200 Hits
25 Strength
5 Constitution

Other Bonuses
10 Melee Damage
7 Melee Combat Speed
9 Fatigue
10 Style Damage
20 AF

 

[Punishment]

Looks nice Aloca meight ... but cant coment w/o knowing true sists

Also i think my template where i lose 28hp is nicer because of teh +11CD roxxage ... Also does ure template have RoD ? As SoM being used for sl is just

 

[Ivynoxia]

Stats are okay, nice hp and nice dmg, would be great (and fit into the max dmg idea that I remember you were going for) if it had +11 CD as well.

 

[Aloca]

Looks nice Aloca meight ... but cant coment w/o knowing true sists

Also i think my template where i lose 28hp is nicer because of teh +11CD roxxage ... Also does ure template have RoD ? As SoM being used for sl is just

2 of those resists is 20+ 2 is 10+ i can pick whatever atm

 

[Ivynoxia]

Come play the "Guess Aloca's resists" game!

I'm guessing energy and spirit are the 20+

What are the prizes?

Ahem, I have an almost exactly similar temp for when the armor table changes come to Europe, but I have +11 CD instead of the last 2% melee dmg, I dont know if 7.5% more offhand chance is better or worse than 2% melee dmg.

 

[Aloca]

Come play the "Guess Aloca's resists" game!

I'm guessing energy and spirit are the 20+

What are the prizes?

Ahem, I have an almost exactly similar temp for when the armor table changes come to Europe, but I have +11 CD instead of the last 2% melee dmg, I dont know if 7.5% more offhand chance is better or worse than 2% melee dmg.

Ye the changed in armor tables and the more painfull desummoning of Sun Weapons than i thought made me start on a new template

 

[Pio]

have you got expensive items in it aloca?

 

[Aardwolf]

Other Bonuses
10 Melee Damage
7 Melee Combat Speed
9 Fatigue
10 Style Damage
20 AF

Thats nice :touch:

 

[Ivynoxia]

I used a DPS calculator for Nightshades and assuming that all the formulae it uses are correct, the average DPS will be higher if you cap CD and the melee speed instead of the last 2% in melee dmg, but of course your PA and first hits will be lowered by 2%

Here are my temp's stats

Stats
Str:100
Hits:396
Con:80
Dex:51
Qui:52

Resists
Body:23
Energy:21 + 5
Heat:26
Cold:13
Matter:11
Spirit:23
Crush:25 + 5
Thrust:26
Slash:26


Skills
11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Blades
11 Celtic Dual

Cap Increases
5 Dexterity
196 Hits
25 Strength
5 Constitution

Other Bonuses
8 Melee Damage
10 Style Damage
10 Melee Combat Speed
9 Fatigue
30 AF

 

[Ziz]

no +11 env in either go remake

 

[Enli]

thrown this together, no RoD tho /cry

Str: 100 Int: 0 Hits: 428
Con: 94 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 27 Cha: 0
Qui: 42 Emp: 0
Resists
Body: 27 Energy: 0 Crush: 26
Cold: 0 Matter: 0 Thrust: 27
Heat: 27 Spirit: 6 Slash: 26

11 Stealth
4 Envenom
11 Critical Strike
11 Celtic Dual
11 Blades

Cap Increases
5 Dex
5 Qui
200 Hits
25 Str
19 Con

Other Bonuses
10 AF Bonus
5 Fatigue
11 Melee Damage Bonus
10 Melee Speed Bonus
13 Style Damage Bonus

 

[Ivynoxia]

no +11 env in either go remake

we're not uber like you!

 

[Ivynoxia]

Ivy's 1.83 Blades template

There ya go, aloca, the entire temp in Kort's xml (zipped) and config report below...

Config Report

Spoiler

Stats

Str: 100 Int: 0 Hits: 396
Con: 80 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 51 Cha: 0
Qui: 52 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 23 Energy: 21 Crush: 25
Cold: 13 Matter: 11 Thrust: 26
Heat: 26 Spirit: 23 Slash: 26

Skills

11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Celtic Dual
11 Blades

Cap Increases
25 Strength
5 Constitution
5 Dexterity
196 Hits

Other Bonuses

8 Melee Damage
10 Style Damage
10 Melee Combat Speed
9 Fatigue
30 AF

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor [Nerfed]
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 4: 4 Style Damage
Effect 5: 15 Dexterity
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Name: Tempered Lightning Etched Leather Sleeves
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Critical Strike
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 48 Hits
Effect 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 72 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 44.00

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Critical Strike - 99 Rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 Rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 5 Stealth - 99 Imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 69.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 4 Blades - 99 Flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Utility: 74.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Blades - 99 Rough Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 9 Slash - 99 Polished Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 68 Hits - 99 Flawless Blood Essence
Gem 4: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Utility: 70.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 2: 76 Hits - 99 Perfect Blood Essence
Gem 3: 5 Thrust - 99 Flawed Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 25 Quickness - 99 Flawless Airy Essence
Utility: 59.67

Right Hand
Name: Nightshade Fuar Blade
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Blades
Effect 2: 12 Quickness
Effect 3: 12 Strength
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage
Effect 6: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 36.00

Left Hand
Name: Malice Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue
Utility: 30.00

Neck
Name: Paidrean Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Body
Effect 2: 10 Crush
Effect 3: 10 Spirit
Effect 4: 10 Thrust
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mists
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 4 Fatigue
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Eerie Darkness Stone (1.81)
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 5 Heat
Effect 2: 5 Matter
Effect 3: 4 Crush
Effect 4: 5 Cold
Effect 5: 5 Body
Effect 6: 4 Slash
Effect 7: 5 Energy
Effect 8: 5 Spirit
Effect 9: 4 Thrust
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Kraken Tentacle Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 8 Thrust
Effect 2: 8 Body
Effect 3: 8 Heat
Effect 4: 8 Energy
Effect 5: 44 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 64.00

Right Ring
Name: Leviathan Ring of the Deep
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 21 Dexterity
Effect 4: 20 Hits
Effect 5: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 47.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Dances (1.81)
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush
Effect 5: 5 Slash
Effect 6: 10 AF
Utility: 55.00

Right Wrist
Name: Black Water Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Slash
Effect 2: 8 Cold
Effect 3: 8 Spirit
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 8 Energy
Utility: 75.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Heat
Effect 3: 6 Matter
Effect 4: 6 Crush
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF
Utility: 51.00

It's currently set with Champ weapon as mainhand, but you can easily reconfigure it to Malice main and champ offhand, I was just playing about.

3 levi/kraken items and a Zahur's bracer fun, but i got all four ready and waiting in vault so I'm okay

Edit: added the version with Malice as mainhand, all stats are the same just weps swapped and SC pieces reconfigured.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

Very nice temp indeed Ivy, but the main question is:

What is best slow offhand and better temp or fast offhand and lower on the resists?

Crocs got worse stats then champion weapon ( obviously ) but is 3.5 spd vs champ weapons 4.0 spd.

The main reason I wanna make a new temp isn't b/c my old one is all bad it's quiet good tbh, but the spd of battler is 4.1 and noticed my swings to be quiet slow :<

What you other say? crocs in off or champ weapon?

 

[Neffneff]

Very nice temp indeed Ivy, but the main question is:

What is best slow offhand and better temp or fast offhand and lower on the resists?

Crocs got worse stats then champion weapon ( obviously ) but is 3.5 spd vs champ weapons 4.0 spd.

The main reason I wanna make a new temp isn't b/c my old one is all bad it's quiet good tbh, but the spd of battler is 4.1 and noticed my swings to be quiet slow :<

What you other say? crocs in off or champ weapon?

the question is not really about the template stats, versus offhand spd (if it was i'd pick offhand speed)

its more, is loosing the extra dps from having a faster offhand outwieghed by the slash debuff proc that comes from having the champ weapon. if the debuff procs, then your dps will exceed that of what was being supplied by the faster weapon. imo, both setups are more than viable.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

the slash debuff proc that comes from having the champ weapon.

How much does it debuff for anyway? Gs debuffs aint that impressive?

Also crocs got that qu debuff, so you could reason that qu debuff + malice 25% debuff + AH speed decrease = alot of lost DPS on ur enemy while u swing fast as hell urself.

250 qu 10% melee spd +26% haste from buff ( buffbonus ) 4.1+3.5 is like cap swing spd.

where you with same buffs and qu etc on a champ weapon would get 1.7 s / swing when dual wield ( not much of a diffrennce maybe )

I can't really tell what is the best tbh Oo

 

[Ivynoxia]

I did have an arguement for faster swing speed but then I realised I dont have diamondback in blades line, lol. so yeah, swing speed not as important now we have 3 sec window. you won't miss your hamstring etc

I was going to say however that as a pierce user right now and having a 1.55 swing speed I am very often able to do Diamondback and still get in the Hamstring, which is just, Mmm.

Edit : The slash debuff is 7% on item based resists. and it kills (brings to 0 ) all forms of casted melee resist I think.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

I did have an arguement for faster swing speed but then I realised I dont have diamondback in blades line, lol. so yeah, swing speed not as important now we have 3 sec window. you won't miss your hamstring etc

I was going to say however that as a pierce user right now and having a 1.55 swing speed I am very often able to do Diamondback and still get in the Hamstring, which is just, Mmm.

Edit : The slash debuff is 7% on item based resists. and it kills (brings to 0 ) all forms of casted melee resist I think.

Hmm, yah maybe u are right about the swing speed but i was under the impression you would really notice a 1.5 swing spd instead of a crapp 1.8/1.9 as it is with 4.1/4.0...not sure I'm undecided atm and can't really make up my mind.

And the crof tooth debuff is for like 50 dex/qu i think.

 

[Neffneff]

its 45 d/q debuff, which takes off like 2% evade chance, and nerfs the opponants dmg over time a bit, but since the reactionaries change its not as good as it once was. though still prolly worth using in a template, but to me, i prefer the malice+champ weapon, solely for the purpose of gathering impressive dmg screenshots if nothing else ^^.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

its 45 d/q debuff, which takes off like 2% evade chance, and nerfs the opponants dmg over time a bit, but since the reactionaries change its not as good as it once was. though still prolly worth using in a template, but to me, i prefer the malice+champ weapon, solely for the purpose of gathering impressive dmg screenshots if nothing else ^^.

Hmm its not the evade/dex that i care about but it takes off almost 50 qu wich is 4% melee spd (1% = 9 qu ), add to that some ppl dont get 10% buff, sbs dont get haste buffs, and the one most infils/sbs use is 19% ones, also add a malice proc to lower thier qu further and AH speed deacrease.

I know for exmapel that if some1 hits u fasterthen u hit him and u got about the same af, hits and cap dmg - u will end up dead


But i donno if that weights up the fact u can get a nice slash debuff on some1, the end rain is pointless imo since everyone uses barrels or regen pots.

 

[Aloca]

Stats
Str:101
Int:0
Hits:400
Con:101
Pie:0
Power:0
Dex:52
Cha:0
Qui:80
Emp:0

Resists
Body:26
Energy:26
Crush:26
Cold:26
Matter:26
Thrust:26
Heat:26
Spirit:26
Slash:26

Skills
11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Celtic Dual
11 Blades
Cap Increases
5 Dexterity
200 Hits
25 Strength
25 Constitution
5 Quickness
Other Bonuses
10 Melee Combat Speed
11 Melee Damage
9 Fatigue
10 Style Damage
26 AF

Spoiler

Piece Listing
Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00
Arms
Imbue Points: 35.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 78%
Gem 1: 4 Blades - 99 Flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Blades - 99 Flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 3 Blades - 99 Rough Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 75.00
Head
Imbue Points: 35.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 78%
Gem 1: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 3 Critical Strike - 99 Rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Stealth - 99 Flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 4 Stealth - 99 Flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 75.00
Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 Rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Utility: 71.67
Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Constitution
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 3 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 7: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00
Feet
Name:
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: Empty
Effect 2: Empty
Effect 3: Empty
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00
Right Hand
Name: Malice Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Style Damage
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00
Left Hand
Name: Crocodile's Tooth
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 27 Strength
Effect 2: 27 Dexterity
Effect 3: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 3 Style Damage
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00
Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00
Ranged
Name: 2nd Item of PWN
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 26 Body
Effect 2: 26 Cold
Effect 3: 26 Heat
Effect 4: 26 Energy
Effect 5: 26 Matter
Effect 6: 26 Spirit
Effect 7: 26 Crush
Effect 8: 26 Thrust
Effect 9: 26 Slash
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 468.00
Neck
Name: Necklace of Rapture
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Slash
Effect 2: 8 Thrust
Effect 3: 7 Body
Effect 4: 7 Heat
Effect 5: 7 Energy
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 74.00
Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 4 Fatigue
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00
Jewel
Name: Eerie Stone of Darkness
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 5 Body
Effect 2: 5 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 5 Matter
Effect 6: 5 Spirit
Effect 7: 4 Crush
Effect 8: 4 Thrust
Effect 9: 4 Slash
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.00
Belt
Name: Belt of the Sun
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Strength
Effect 2: 10 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Energy
Effect 4: 5 Spirit
Effect 5: 5 Crush
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Fatigue
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 43.33
Right Ring
Name: Malevolent Darkspire Mighty Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 6 Heat
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 6 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.00
Left Ring
Name: Ring of the Heavens
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Spirit
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00
Right Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Heat
Effect 2: 6 Matter
Effect 3: 6 Crush
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00
Left Wrist
Name: Malevolent Darkspire Mighty Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Slash
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.00

 

[Aloca]

Ok a serious one now

Stats
Str:101
Hits:400
Con:94
Dex:46
Qui:49

Resists
Body:18
Energy:17
Cold:5
Matter:17
Heat:24
Spirit:10
Slash:26
Thrust:26
Crush:26

Skills
11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
4 Celtic Dual
11 Blades

Cap Increases
5 Dexterity
200 Hits
25 Strength
20 Constitution
5 Quickness

Other Bonuses
9 Melee Damage
10 Melee Combat Speed
9 Fatigue
10 Style Damage
30 AF

 

[Yurka]

250 qu 10% melee spd +26% haste from buff ( buffbonus ) 4.1+3.5 is like cap swing spd.

I was under the impression that haste didn't increase with buff bonuses

 

[dohhhh]

Give a blade template with 10\10\10 toa bonuses, 15+ strcap, 25+ con cap, 400hp and 11cs 11cd 11blades 11stealth 3-4 env imo.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

Ok a serious one now


Resists
Body:18
Energy:17
Cold:5
Matter:17
Heat:24
Spirit:10
Slash:26
Thrust:26
Crush:26

I'd get body as close to cap as I could since minstrel dds are nasty othwerwise. On ppl with poor body resists and no cl sists i do 420 dmg ever 15 s, on ppl with 30-35% resists i do like 230 / round, big diff

 

[Swed]

Lurri NS FTW :-P

Stats
Str:101
Int:0
Hits:280
Con:85
Pie:0
Power:0
Dex:28
Cha:0
Qui:42
Emp:0

Resists
Body:27
Energy:23+5
Cold:17+10
Matter:23
Heat:26
Spirit:28
Crush:31+5
Thrust:25
Slash:26

Skills
11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Celtic Dual
11 Blades

Cap Increases
5 Dexterity
80 Hits
26 Strength
10 Constitution
5 Quickness

Other Bonuses
10 Melee Combat Speed
11 Melee Damage
5 Fatigue
13 Style Damage
20 AF

:kissit:

 

[Ivynoxia]

If they use a end pot mid fight then they are not hitting you for 2 rounds and if you get your enemy suddenly ooe without them realising it (drain is 25%) they will swing unstyled for a round or two, which you will have a high chance of getting an evade opening because of the lack of to hit bonus.

So it's not all that pointless, there will be a reduction in incoming dps, not always as immediate as a dex/qui debuff.

Edit : What you said about all things being equal the faster swings win sounds plausible, I guess the haste effect can win fights. I dont know how to calculate either the exact DPS gain of a faster dual swing (due to a faster offhand). I might try that nightshade DPS calc again.

 

[Aloca]

Lurri NS FTW :-P

Stats
Str:101
Int:0
Hits:280
Con:85
Pie:0
Power:0
Dex:28
Cha:0
Qui:42
Emp:0

Resists
Body:27
Energy:23+5
Cold:17+10
Matter:23
Heat:26
Spirit:28
Crush:31+5
Thrust:25
Slash:26

Skills
11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
11 Celtic Dual
11 Blades

Cap Increases
5 Dexterity
80 Hits
26 Strength
10 Constitution
5 Quickness

Other Bonuses
10 Melee Combat Speed
11 Melee Damage
5 Fatigue
13 Style Damage
20 AF

:kissit:

What weapons are you using then?
Im mostly planning on ML10 and Malice, But Malice and CTD/CW is good also.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

Ops dubble post instead of edit.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

If they use a end pot mid fight then they are not hitting you for 2 rounds and if you get your enemy suddenly ooe without them realising it (drain is 25%) they will swing unstyled for a round or two, which you will have a high chance of getting an evade opening because of the lack of to hit bonus.

So it's not all that pointless, there will be a reduction in incoming dps, not always as immediate as a dex/qui debuff.

Edit : What you said about all things being equal the faster swings win sounds plausible, I guess the haste effect can win fights. I dont know how to calculate either the exact DPS gain of a faster dual swing (due to a faster offhand). I might try that nightshade DPS calc again.

Yah you got valid points here Ivy

But when i mean faster swing speed win fights its more or less if i have a higher swing rate I can more easily ruin the other guys styles with strafes and run through, and I do that all the time - and I noticed on my minstrel lots of shades do this to me and it's fucking annoying since I have a slower to hit spd then they do so I get alot of "out of view" every hit.
Also 25 value end aint that much, most ppl got 5-10 bonus in fatigue ( end ) and the base value is 100 fatigue ( so u debuff 20-15% of thier end ) and if the proc only goes off once a fight I think it will be meaningless ( in an assassin fight atleast ) since you will probably have killed eachother b4 ur end is out.
And if this statement was to be argumented against then the loss of time pressing in my case f6 f2/f3 to get out of combat and drink a bot wont take as long as 2 rounds ( wich should be rougly 4 seconds when using 4.1/4.0 weapons @ 250 qu + haste buff + 10% toa bonus ) but mearly 1 round. ( wich ofc could be noticable if u just stand still while drinking and not strafing, trying to make the other person go OOV, wich atleast I do. )

Still you got valid points and iam not sure yet on what offhand to go for.