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Eemma said:
The fact that they ''DONT'' have to prove to you that your cheating
really pisses me off. what kind of a lame law is that!?? Ofc you have
to prove that the person you are saying is cheating IS actually cheating.
otherwise GMs that are about to get fired or something can just run around
and ban people for no reason... fuck you GM! go make the game balanced instead imo.


probably the only thing i do agree to on this thread... they should present proof before ban.. i still don't think 3 gm's would make it up tho :eek7:
 

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Eemma said:
The fact that they ''DONT'' have to prove to you that your cheating
really pisses me off. what kind of a lame law is that!?? Ofc you have
to prove that the person you are saying is cheating IS actually cheating.
otherwise GMs that are about to get fired or something can just run around
and ban people for no reason...
Requiel said:
There is no proof that we could possibly send you....
....We checked server logs for anomalous movement logs that would indicate movement faster than the server believes should be possible and found plenty of matches. So the evidence that we have is direct observation (not something we can really send you) and a list of numbers. That's all the server log returns, numbers and dates. Not very informative and without access to dev tools actually pretty useless to you.
What proof do you want? Fraps footage? If two different GMs see you cheating that's got to be good enough imo. Why do they need to prove to a cheat that he was cheating?
Eemma said:
fuck you GM! go make the game balanced instead imo.
Making game balanced = Mythic devs not Euro GMs. Retarded comments like that makes you look clueless... Oh. Wait...
 

Danya

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GOA and Mythic should take blizzard's approach IMO - just ban on first offense. People don't do it again thnat's for sure. :p
 

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chretien said:
Making game balanced = Mythic devs not Euro GMs. Retarded comments like that makes you look clueless... Oh. Wait...

Well ok, I am clueless :e

But yes! fraps footage, that should be a nice prove imo.
and just because he says that there's another GM that saw it
too doesnt mean he's telling the truth does it? he did only speak to 1
GM and that is... Zenythe or something :E
 

Icebreaker

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Eemma said:
Well ok, I am clueless :e

But yes! fraps footage, that should be a nice prove imo.
and just because he says that there's another GM that saw it
too doesnt mean he's telling the truth does it? he did only speak to 1
GM and that is... Zenythe or something :E


He spoke to Requiel and Zenythe. :p
 

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Eemma said:
The fact that they ''DONT'' have to prove to you that your cheating
really pisses me off. what kind of a lame law is that!?? Ofc you have
to prove that the person you are saying is cheating IS actually cheating.
otherwise GMs that are about to get fired or something can just run around
and ban people for no reason... fuck you GM! go make the game balanced instead imo.

hmm since when is it a LAW? you acceptet the CoC and Eula or whatver its called.. their game, their rules...
 

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Stallion said:
hmm since when is it a LAW? you acceptet the CoC and Eula or whatver its called.. their game, their rules...

this is correct indeed and besides, I don't think GM's make Fraps footage all the time they play, would be pretty HDD consuming I think and it's not even nearly as accurate as server logs.

It's maybe a little bad example, but at least one I can talk about =) I do some GM'ing on an Ultima Online freeshard and trust me, showing a blocked person serverlogs will not really clarify the thing to him, cause all he'll see is timestamps, numbers and maybe some server warnings. Sooo unlike you know the system (and I doubt GOA offers DAoC server trainings for players :p ), server logs are null to you.

You can also try to read debug code when a program crashes, it's like the same =) Assembler instructions and hex codes, not really something you do understand usually =))

P.S. c'mon Flim, lock that thread please =)
 

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the most appropriate way to know if someone really is cheating or not is to adopt the old 16th century witch hunt principles,


i would put a burning tyre (or douse in petrol and burn) around the cheaters neck and it burns him to death he is not a witch

if it does not burn to him to death, he is a witch and must be burned at once until dead.
 

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Requiel said:
There is no proof that we could possibly send you.
Zenythe recieved a report ingame and followed it up. As a result of her investigation she became very suspicious and decided to follow Latuvuuu around and use some of our tools to see if there was any reason for him being able to move at speed whilst in combat, diseased and snared. On multiple occasions.

We can see all the active effects (buffs, charged items, active RAs etc) that a character has at any time and so it's very easy to see if someone is using an effect such as Charge, Arms Length, SoS, Winged Helm or similar. Obviously in Thidranki, the list of things that give you speed in combat is pretty short. We checked server logs for anomalous movement logs that would indicate movement faster than the server believes should be possible and found plenty of matches. So the evidence that we have is direct observation (not something we can really send you) and a list of numbers. That's all the server log returns, numbers and dates. Not very informative and without access to dev tools actually pretty useless to you.

For the record when you spoke to Zenythe the first time prior to being terminated and booted you were actually talking to me. Zenythe asked me to corroborate her observations. After a period of doing exactly what she had just done herself, I found myself bound to agree with her suspicions and so I spoke to you before terminating you (as terminations are my call as lead GM). I booted you, not because I was terrified of you bringing the conversation to FH, but because I had better things to do than argue with you.

We do not need to prove to you that you were cheating. At our entire discretion we can terminate your account if we feel that it would be in the best interests of the game. At any time. For any reason. The only person I need to justify the decision to is my boss. This is one of the conditions that you agreed to when you created your account and every time that you logged into the game.

Cheating is a choice. Most people avoid making it.

Amen =)
 

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lol...wonder how you can get banned 2 or 3 times before tho...

think 95% of the people playing never had any probs with being banned...cause they didn't "try" bugs or anything else but to have fun (i know i haver been here since beta was running...and never had this "prob").

Could be your account was banned without a reason...but your background isn't really in your favour, and i don't think banning people for no reason isn't a real good option by GM's...since this goes around and could be bad publicity if it's true you were banned for no reason.

You not playing anymore means € xx less a month...and no company wants to lose money. So i think they did have enough proof to do this. And the community can only be glad that people "trying" stuff can and will be banned when they continue to "try" it.
 

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Sentimos said:
Same thing happoned to him ( My brother ye ye) - https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=58402 they had no proof just him saying to someone check my user on ebay = ebay user id. I think he was provokeing him lol well all that provokeing and insulting got him suspensions then that finnished him off they did not need any evidance / proof. Just that they thought he was selling them.

You won't get it back mate gutted with all the stuff you lost :(.

Prydwen
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Jeez for fucks sake how retarded can you be? I was beginning to forget that shithead directing players to his ebay radar crap and then you come out of his ass to bring up the memories.


Great work, jackass. :D


Gimlythe"I whine on fh, after my ass has been prawned for cheating"dorf
 

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Made my day today :worthy:

Good to see that some cheaters have no intelligence too.
 

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Agree a good laugh!

There are so many reasons NOT to cheat still some do and to state that you would post the screens or whatever on FH makes me laugh even harder.

YOU buy the client dark age of camelot you do NOT own your account to draw the lines hard Mythic/GoA does.

All you do is to explain it simply is you rent space/your account on there service,you use there service"playing the game"

And that is it more or less.

From what i could get from Requiel post, They gave you chances and you still screwup, I can tell you threat a GM that you would post on a forum would help you? YOU earned that ban all by your self GRATZ!

Im not a daoc GM, however i been GM in another mmorpg that is high populated UO, I do not know what kind of tools the dev's has here however i do know for a fact we have alot of tools to see alot more than you can ever dream off.

tbh i know alot of you out there "think" we dont see that,we cant prove that, But i can asure you im 99% sure mythic has the best of tools for there game.


Also threat a gm etc will never get you anywhere, mmorpg have ALOT of players, if you took an argue with every guy who calls on us how many calls do you think we would manage to do on a day? as Requiel did off with you!


Im really glad that you lost your sorc really glad tbh, CoC, Eula just owned you in a old fashion hardcore way! :eek2:
 

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Geez, I wasted 50 minutes by just reading this thread.

Mods should delete this thread, takes too much space in DB for nothing.

Gratz Latuvu btw, keep up the arrogant behaviour.
 

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Harthai said:
the problem is they cant truly verify if you are using hacks or not, they can only assume. Unless you want them to have a punkbuster type thing which checkes your files every time you log in

How would you know? I doubt you ever been a GM in GoA so how could you possibly know what tools GMs got? Now you can only assumpt what tools they have.
 

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(invisibletank) said:
thats fuked up....u shut email goa or sumthin' and ask for the vid...coz 1v1 is not enough evidence to terminate (atleast it shuld be) + ask him who is alt's are, he is prob the guy u chained for 1hr ^^
mebbe ig logs wuld help too ?
post logs / vids here if u get them plz

soz it took me so long to reply to post mate had`nt seen it originally.
that is a crock mate, you and i ran duo/trio`s in thid for about about 2 weeks and i neva seen u do`ing ne hax, mebbe the GM seen u in water sprinting with pots nd vamp spd ? ( were u playin vamp) i remember that was pretty fast with my old skald. ne way mate is ur acc on ban for a couple of weeks or terminated, i stopped reading post after "invisibletank" prolly the most illiterate focker i know the evidence is above :p
~ Asein here btw and ill ttyl in thid mate, if u are playin mid/pryd pm me on Ffs:p
 

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hehe 1 more abusing schoolkid has left the game :m00:

Well done GOA GM's.. banned 2 times before.. why should we trust u this time ? :eek7:

have fun irl.. now u have time for your school :m00:
 

usheen

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lol goa cant fix the game,yet thay say thay have tools for this,, the jokes on goa here
 
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