BBC's Worst Piece of Journalism Ever.

[Gwadien]

Thought I'd post this before it gets edited 'ban gay marriage' in order to ban gay marriage surely you have to have it in the first place, then remove it?


Australia court bans gay marriage

Legalisation of gay marriage in Australian Capital Territory overturned by High Court

More to follow.

 

[Scouse]

Banned as in was legalised, been overturned...

 

[TdC]

bahs what a bunch of narrow minded dicks

 

[Raven]

Sort of understand why. It should be a federal law change rather than local so it's not like they are saying it will not be legalised, just that until it is done properly the local law doesn't count.

Not that it should be a matter for law anyway, I mean who actually cares if homosexuals want to marry each other? I suppose the church might but they are redundant as an organisation.

 

[rynnor]

Marriage itself is largely redundant these days so who cares tbh?

 

[Job]

Im presuming most gays dont want to get married..its just nice to know you could if you wanted to.

 

[rynnor]

Its just about property rights - once you have those it doesn't matter what its called.

 

[TdC]

Im presuming most gays dont want to get married..its just nice to know you could if you wanted to.

according to several gay friends, people who are gay want te get married as much as anyone who is not gay does.

 

[Raven]

freaks

 

[rynnor]

Looking at Australian law the only difference between their current 'de facto' status and marriage is automatic inheritance from their partner and partial pensions on the death of partner. Which is the same for opposite sex and same sex de facto relationships.

 

[Job]

Of course most people are still repulsed by gay sex eventhogh they are under PC pressure to say otherwise...if Im surfing porn and cum across a flash ad with two hairy dudes boning each other Im like ' Holy mother of god..stop it'

 

[soze]

I have zero problem with gay marriage. I would however like Camp Pride parades to be banned. Not because I have a problem with them being camp and proud I just have no interest in seeing any bloke in Ass-Less Chaps.

I wonder if your more reserved gay has issues with the parade too. Or is there a section of the parade which is just blokes walking down the road in Jeans and a T Shirt? The only gay I know well enough to know he would not be offended is more camp than Butlins so he is no help.

 

[Raven]

I don't like homosexuals that make homosexuality their entire personality, the double entendres, the whole Franky Howard act. Although I can't stand fake people in general. I don't much care that they want to bone other men (or women!) it doesn't effect my life at all.

 

[DaGaffer]

I don't like homosexuals that make homosexuality their entire personality, the double entendres, the whole Franky Howard act. Although I can't stand fake people in general. I don't much care that they want to bone other men (or women!) it doesn't effect my life at all.

I've always worked on the assumption that the kind of overt camp that you're talking about is as much about being allowed to be obviously gay and making a statement about it as much as anything else (lest we forget, being gay was still illegal in lots of western countries until is recently as the eighties in some cases). As one's sexuality becomes normalised the interest in it being the only part of one's personality worth commenting on will go away. I'm sure there will always be a gay "scene", but I expect the ass-less chaps to go out of fashion. I expect lesbians to remain more politicised because they have no sense of humour (let's be honest, if women didn't find us hilarious, they'd all be lesbians).

Of course most people are still repulsed by gay sex eventhogh they are under PC pressure to say otherwise...if Im surfing porn and cum across a flash ad with two hairy dudes boning each other Im like ' Holy mother of god..stop it'

Let it go Job, you cum across a picture of two guys boning, its OK (apart from the sticky screen), I'm glad you felt you could come out to us.

 

[Embattle]

BBC has also become a slow Daily Mail, over the last year you'll notice certain tabloid type stories that appear on DM appear a day later on the BBC.

 

[rynnor]

It's certainly poorly edited. I read an article about Scottish independence last week that had a chunk missing - it started going on about 'she said blah blah blah' but thanks to crap editing 'she ' was never actually identified

 

[Raven]

The BBC news website seems to be written and edited by interns, the spelling and grammatical errors are constant and the level of reporting abysmal. Interesting in this day and age when most peoples source of news is the internet.

 

[Job]

Glad to see the PC pressure in here...lots of hipster live and let live.
The reality is most straight man and women dont want to see or think about men boning each other up the ass or sucking each others cocks.
Its practically in the same area as taking a dump...I know you do it but I dont want to see it thanks.

 

[Scouse]

I don't like homosexuals that make homosexuality their entire personality, the double entendres, the whole Franky Howard act. Although I can't stand fake people in general. I don't much care that they want to bone other men (or women!) it doesn't effect my life at all.

How else do you easily advertise that you're up for the bum secs?

Lets face it - if there's no outward physical signs then the only advertising you can do is behavioural.

You wanna get laid you need to let other people know that that's what you're in to. There's a presumption of straightness (and rightly so - because most people are) so if you're not straight then one option is to effect an accent to ensure that other men know you're not.

Different for lesbians. Some of them do the whole pat butcher thing, but IMO girls are generally less judgemental.

 

[Scouse]

The reality is most straight man and women dont want to see or think about men boning each other up the ass or sucking each others cocks.

To be honest Job, I think that kids give a shit, but most adults get over it quick.

Yep, I don't want to watch gay porn, and yep, I wouldn't stand and watch two men tonguing - but it's not exactly two girls one cup.


Live and let live is fine by me. I don't have to partake in the lifestyle or watch gay porn so that's OK by me if others want to.

 

[soze]

How else do you easily advertise that you're up for the bum secs?

Lets face it - if there's no outward physical signs then the only advertising you can do is behavioural.

You wanna get laid you need to let other people know that that's what you're in to. There's a presumption of straightness (and rightly so - because most people are) so if you're not straight then one option is to effect an accent to ensure that other men know you're not.

Different for lesbians. Some of them do the whole pat butcher thing, but IMO girls are generally less judgemental.

Having been to a few Gay bars the term Gaydar is spot on. Most of the guys there can spot a straight guy a mile off. But you are correct which I suppose is why there are Gay Bars and that phone app that you can use which shows Gay People near you. Which I understand is used a lot in Hetro Bars.

 

[DaGaffer]

Having been to a few Gay bars the term Gaydar is spot on. Most of the guys there can spot a straight guy a mile off. But you are correct which I suppose is why there are Gay Bars and that phone app that you can use which shows Gay People near you. Which I understand is used a lot in Hetro Bars.

I'm a bit dubious about gaydar; a mate of mine at Uni was always getting propositioned by men despite being (as far as I'm aware) totally straight. We could never work it out because he didn't seem to have any Gay vibe that the rest of us could see. And another friend we were all absolutely convinced he was gay (he even had two gay brothers), but if he is he's hiding it really well with his fit missus and three kids.

 

[TdC]

Its practically in the same area as taking a dump...I know you do it but I dont want to see it thanks.

how about two shapely ladies getting it on Job? would you mind that?

imo what you're talking about is a mix of your gender preference and what parts of society has taught you to be correct: you're not into the cock, and you've been told that cock+cock = wrong. You've most likely been told that vag+vag is also wrong, but you sneakly turn a blind eye because you're attracted to the ladies.

I've been brought up much the same way: for example, my mum masks her latent homophobia with practical disguises, like "childeren need the balance of a woman and a man to create well adjusted views of gender and role" and suchlike retoric. When I dug a little I found that she is also completely against gay marriage for much the same reasons, however she accepts that love is unconditional and that love happening within the same gender can exist. She just doesn't want the gheis to marry, but as to why exactly she is unclear as it's buried in a deep sense of church and soceity and personal morals (she's nearly 80 btw).

I have a lesbian friend who is virulently against the hetrosexuality is good message that society contunially pumps out; if you start to notice it, you'll see it everywhere: you (as in you the general public) get shown at every turn that the only possible way to happiness is to fall in the pattern of man-woman-kids-pets-nice-house-average-car-be-hardworking-and-productive. She hates the fact that an image is projected that if you're not in a relationship (with a man) and don't have kids and don't have a job then it's impossible for you to be a happy and well adjusted member of the community. As a happily single bloke I've actually started to come around to her way of thinking and have started to get a bit annoyed myself (for example in ads you see that it's considered well and good to be single in your 20's but you're a bit abnormal when you're single in your 30's -why????) and I'm not even gay, and I don't see the hetrosexual confirmation overtones in the world around me until people like my friend point them out to me. NB before you think she's a man hating virago, her point is that the message is flawed; it's not man+woman = happiness, it's people = happiness and for myself I quite agree with her.

 

[rynnor]

Is there really no-one gay on this forum? Did we drive them out ?

Statistically with this number of blokes we should have loads?

On the topic of things straight men and women don't want to see can I say my number one is ugly people making out - it just makes me shudder.

Of course you accept intellectually that ugly people must breed else how would there be so many of them but I'd rather not see it.

 

[Scouse]

I thought @ECA loved the cock?

Yo bummer! Come and lend your intellect to this distinctly un-intellectual and probably massively misinformed thread!

 

[TdC]

I've been a rampant lezza for years, me

As to people making out or getting their horn on or whatever, tbh I'm not really keen on that stuff going on in front of me be it any combination of genders. Firstly, if you really wanted you could have stayed home and just tweeted the occasional status #hoorayfinallyanal with @insertpartnername woot!, secondly dude we're doing stuff together! I didn't go out for drinks so I can watch you try to lick your partner's eyeballs from the inside for three hours, and thirdly it's just watching other people get it on and not me. I'm happy for them, but if I'm not getting some as well at the time then I kind of feel left out :-/

 

[soze]

I'm a bit dubious about gaydar; a mate of mine at Uni was always getting propositioned by men despite being (as far as I'm aware) totally straight. We could never work it out because he didn't seem to have any Gay vibe that the rest of us could see. And another friend we were all absolutely convinced he was gay (he even had two gay brothers), but if he is he's hiding it really well with his fit missus and three kids.

I may be well and truly wrong. But sitting in a bar and being admittedly a bit deflated because not one bloke had tried it on led me to ask why. And everyone of them had be pegged as a Straight Mate.

 

[rynnor]

"childeren need the balance of a woman and a man to create well adjusted views of gender and role" and suchlike retoric.

I think they do need role models - in a hetero couple its easy as they have the father or mother to identify with but as long as they partake of the wider community they will probably be fine.

No-ones exactly sure but they haven't found anything so far that says sexual orientation of the parents impacts outcomes for the child.

 

[TdC]

I think they do need role models - in a hetero couple its easy as they have the father or mother to identify with but as long as they partake of the wider community they will probably be fine.

No-ones exactly sure but they haven't found anything so far that says sexual orientation of the parents impacts outcomes for the child.

oh don't mistake me, because I agree. I just don't fully believe anymore that there has to be a man and a woman to teach you this. also, I have some ideas of my own on this as I was brought up from the age of 10 in a one-parent household. I remember being jealous of kids with dads, but tbh I don't think I turned out any more screwed up than your average person for it.

 

[rynnor]

oh don't mistake me, because I agree. I just don't fully believe anymore that there has to be a man and a woman to teach you this. also, I have some ideas of my own on this as I was brought up from the age of 10 in a one-parent household. I remember being jealous of kids with dads, but tbh I don't think I turned out any more screwed up than your average person for it.

People are all different - we are just talking about statistical generalities here. The gold standard still seems to be married hetero couple who stay together forever but such couples are becoming rare and frankly the differences between that scenario and the others are not high and could in reality be due to socio-economic factors - its very difficult to do decent science on human behaviour.