Bard template questions...

Tsabo

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right few questions about bard templates, I have looked and read a few and have some issues with the ones I have seen.

1. Energy Resists - Why skimp on what seems to be to be a very important resist? For one thing some people are using BoS Weaps again but also Energy is Sorc mez, so surely being the main mezzer you want a higher resist rate on the enemies mez?

2. Charisma - What the hell does this do for bards other than increase the insta DD damage? It is to my understanding that the chance of the spell landing on an enemy is down to the Base level of the spell and any Mastery of Focus.

3. Cast Range - What is the cap on this? 10%?

Now for my views on what arti's/caps I think I would go for in a template;

101 Dex/10% Cast Speed/10% Cast Range/10% Spell duration - Must have to try and win the mez and keep the mez held.

75+ Con/300+ Hits - Am gonna get MA'd pretty fast I'd guess so the more HP the easier on the healers it'll be.

ALL resists to be 23%+ - Even Energy to reduce timer on Sorc mez.

Powerpool 20%+ - The more power, the more spells to be cast.

BoZ - Amazing for interupts.

GSV - Proc is great when being assisted on.

Phoebus Harp - ease to prevent instrument switching.

CB - Mez Feedback, nuff said.

Winged Helm - Style reduction of 75% is too good to pass up being a popular target.

Battler and Cyclops Eye Sheild - Battler charge for survival, Cyclops for popping those nasty stealthers that try to run. (These obviously aren't there for stat contribution as only used for the use abilities).

Thanks for taking a look and giving me any of your opinions. I will begin designing my Bard SC tonight while baring in mind any advice/views given here.
 

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Tsabo said:
2. Charisma - What the hell does this do for bards other than increase the insta DD damage? It is to my understanding that the chance of the spell landing on an enemy is down to the Base level of the spell and any Mastery of Focus.

Ehm Charisma = Power Pool afaik :eek:
 

microhard

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o0

every1 seems 2 be interested in bards these days

whats going on? :eek7:
 

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1. It is foolish to use boz weapons in grp rvr because of casted resists. Even if you gimp it to 0-5% your energy resists are going to be equivalent to your melee resists likely better. Considering sorc mezz delves at about 1 minute, 10-20% reduction is pointless the fight will be over if you have to sit out that long. If you can get energy resists sure get them but not before getting everything else you need..

2. power pool

3. 10% cap for standard item bonuses. But the ml10 and arch magery charges will take you over this.

If you can fit in winged helm sure it might be nice but it normally is very hard to, and remeber you still have phase shift.
 

Tsabo

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PonZaC said:
Ehm Charisma = Power Pool afaik :eek:

<Slaps forehead> Forgot about that ;)

Thanks for the advice, any more is welcome.
 

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Spell duration is capped at 25% btw, not 10%.

Danita
 

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doesnt Charisma increase your chance of mezz ing ppl?? not power pool?
 

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Kaun_IA said:
doesnt Charisma increase your chance of mezz ing ppl?? not power pool?

wrong, chanse to mezz has only to do with level of spell

Charisma is what makes the bards powerpool tho
 

Tsabo

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Have made a template now, has the following;

101dex 90char 75con 200hits

All sists are 23%+ apart from energy which is 4%.

Cast speed, Range are both 10%.

Duration is 24% and Powerpool is at about 30%ish.

It uses the following artis;

GSV, CTR, BoZ, Phoebus Harp necky, Phoebus Harp, Foppish Sleeves, Maddening Scalars.

Isn't too hard to get template either. actually seemed really easy :)

Thanks again for all the help peeps.
 

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Where's Winged helm:eek7: And why maddenings scalars? Would fit in Winged helm instead of Maddenings scalars tbh
 

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Scalars for shapeshift isn't a bad idea for bard imo :) but I believe bards get melee version of them? not sure
 

Tsabo

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PonZaC said:
Where's Winged helm:eek7: And why maddenings scalars? Would fit in Winged helm instead of Maddenings scalars tbh

Well I figure, with Battler as weap(for charge), PS, FZ and snare proc from GSV, I can miss out Winged helm. Though I was trying to fit it in.

MS Gave me the last 3% to cast speed as I'm using... MS(3%)(If they get the caster version - i can't see any reason why they would get melee version) - Cloak of Heavenly Bodies(2%) - Harp/necky(5%).

But the proc on MS(when it rarely goes off) is much better than winged helm ability. and the shape shift will keep people unsure of their target. It was more the fact that it fit the template.
 

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afaik, you get the tank/healer version of maddening scalars...

40 hits
15 cons
15 quick
3 melee combat speed
3 melee damage
5 cons cap
5quick cap
 

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Tsabo said:
MS Gave me the last 3% to cast speed as I'm using... MS(3%)(If they get the caster version - i can't see any reason why they would get melee version) - Cloak of Heavenly Bodies(2%) - Harp/necky(5%).

bards get the melee version.
 

Tsabo

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eSo said:
bards get the melee version.

back to the drawing board. that is bollocks btw, why the hell give a class whos primary need is casting etc melee version of items?

Nice one mythic ¬.¬
 

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Tsabo said:
back to the drawing board. that is bollocks btw, why the hell give a class whos primary need is casting etc melee version of items?

Nice one mythic ¬.¬

because they dont <3 em :<
 

Tsabo

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Need an either a gem/armourpiece/ring/bracer that has 3% cast speed on it, any ideas?
 

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