Balanced?

[old.Filip]

Still top 100 rp earneres only hold 11% albs worldwide...

even when you count in that there is more albs to kill in general 11% is to little...
(source is camelot-seer)

and i think the diference between the realms even's out a lot with higher RR's

ei. rr1 fga or 1fgh vs 1fgm = fgm wins

at rr10 the chance are more equal ... i think ... not been there yet so i dunno

 

[Asha]

It feels pretty even since asd nerf. It's so nice to be able to cast damn. High RR hib caster groups are still v hard and require an uber sorc, but they should be hard. Savages still suck, esp with RAs down, but they are do-able.

The big problem and frustration now is trying to find a good fight. It feels like we run for 30 mins looking for an enemy then get zerged or we run into enemy in a common place and get 100 albs adding. I don't enjoy either situation at all. It's so rare to find a fg to fight and not get any Alb adds. Give fg vs. fg battlegrounds...


ps... not all albs whining under powered blah blah blah but maybe ppl who aren't unhappy post less? It is bw...

 

[Belomar]

I think it's pretty balanced at the moment. What I don't like is the huge imbalance between different class types, i.e. the predominance of melee groups in today's RvR and the way casters have been nerfed. Perhaps ToA and some of the master abilities (bodyguard in particular) will turn the tables, we'll see.

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by diabien_hib
because lets face it hibs rely totally on gp. Catch hibs with no gp you usually beat them.

Grouppurge is great if you fucked up as Hib-group. If you need grouppurge to counter Albs (or Mids) you already let yourselves become AE-mezzed which is basically a fault of the Hibs. Yes its nice to have grouppurge, but my Hib-group (on Prydwen) is still good without grouppurge.

For a caster-group its abit different, but still Grouppurge is not always needed there. If you got high-RR casters you should not have to rely as heavy on grouppurge as you claim.

 

[glorien_]

True alb posses many good ra's but they are all (i think) on 30 min recast - so albs are supposed to have 1 good fight every 30 mins? Alb rely so heavily on ra's to do anything tbh. And lately it seems Hibs are relying on GP. Whereas albs have good ra's the other realms (for the most part) have good class skills that they dont need to fight for (in RvR).

Alb needs some kind of boost (as well as other classes i.e Thane) but 8 ppl group doesnt give everything alb can have whereas a normal mid grp has everything except PBT.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by Puppetmistress

For a caster-group its abit different, but still Grouppurge is not always needed there. If you got high-RR casters you should not have to rely as heavy on grouppurge as you claim.

GP+high RR casters = purge two types of CC

GP for the aoe mezz
self-purge for the slam

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Puppetmistress
If you got high-RR casters you should not have to rely as heavy on grouppurge as you claim.

Tell me how having high-RR casters changes anything. They still can't get determination, yes? And purge you don't have to be high-RR to get.

 

[old.shotgunstow]

Originally posted by taen
one button spam chanters and grp purge and insta mezz = skill ?

 

[elder_theurgist]

chanters

Originally posted by taen
one button spam chanters and grp purge and insta mezz = skill ?

Problem whit chanters is that they are not only 1 bottom spammers, they can also kill any enemy caster in <8 sec, and they have a pet to send on someone to interrupt.

No the 1 bottom spammer are definatly ice wizards, they only have 1 bottom that makes a difference, and therefor alb pbaoe groups will always be a lot worse then hib pbaoe.

(dont see casters groups in mid often cos the alternatives are so much better).

PS: Hib have 1 more pbaoe class, so easyer to get enough pbaoe chars in 1 group.

 

[Stallion-]

I stil think, b4 removing the debuffs from the Empowering line, you will need to give chanters some more utility. pbae & a pet aint enough give the utility elds have.

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by Stallion-
I stil think, b4 removing the debuffs from the Empowering line, you will need to give chanters some more utility. pbae & a pet aint enough give the utility elds have.

Do the same for ice wizards while you are at it

 

[bracken_woodman]

It's basically just savages that are really out of sync, primarily when you get more than one in a group. Insta-mezz is a pain but in truth its not overpowering. Everything else is pretty much fine.

Reading this thread, what is more nauseating are a) those who exaggerate the imbalances (in all realms) and b) those who bitch about their own realm.

 

[El_Bandito]

shadowblades r sooo overpowrd suckkfools

 

[parzi]

Originally posted by Puppetmistress
Grouppurge is great if you fucked up as Hib-group. If you need grouppurge to counter Albs (or Mids) you already let yourselves become AE-mezzed which is basically a fault of the Hibs. Yes its nice to have grouppurge, but my Hib-group (on Prydwen) is still good without grouppurge.

For a caster-group its abit different, but still Grouppurge is not always needed there. If you got high-RR casters you should not have to rely as heavy on grouppurge as you claim.

vs really good grps (who also have ras up) you need all ra's yes, but even vs some not that well played fotm grps you dont need ra's or not all 3 at once at least. but since you have more fights as an excal alb as we get on dartmoor maybe thats because it seems less of a problem to me, but still... alb can compete.

 

[Divinia]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
I don't think hib CC is that bad tbh, nature druid + bard is a nice combo... And getting end song up isn't too hard

well just that we have to rely on two classes to get more than one immunitytimer CC whilst other realms have two or even three on the same char, endsong is never a problem except for if u get jumped or if a group got a good mincer (only exist 3-4 tho)