bad ping times

MaditioN

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This is fucking hillarious, it's like the 10000th time opentransit keep showing us whos the fuckup-boss:

Code:
Tracing route to 193.252.123.45 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    20 ms    20 ms    19 ms  ua-85-227-160-1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.160.1]
  2    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  vlan2.dr2.sto7.se.bredband.com [195.54.118.26]
  3    19 ms    20 ms    20 ms  port-channel4.dr1.sto40.se.bredband.com [195.54.116.254]
  4   184 ms    20 ms    20 ms  port-channel14.cr2.sto3.se.bredband.com [195.54.115.174]
  5    34 ms    54 ms    55 ms  ge3-0.cr1.sto1.se.bredband.com [195.54.114.245]
  6    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  ge4-0-0.br3.sto1.se.bredband.com [195.54.123.113]
  7    19 ms    20 ms    24 ms  64.215.185.81
  8   288 ms   291 ms   279 ms  so1-0-0-2488M.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [67.17.73.90]
  9   497 ms   523 ms   500 ms  opentransit-1.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [64.208.110.2]
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13   534 ms   516 ms   516 ms  po3-0.pascr1.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.128.118]
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15   504 ms   520 ms   523 ms  Interco-rtbg1esite02-RTX5-122-14-30.woo [193.252.122.14]
 16   502 ms   508 ms   500 ms  193.252.123.45

Trace complete.

Code:
Pinging 193.252.123.45 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=516ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=518ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=508ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=499ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=525ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=511ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=510ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=512ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=506ms TTL=47
Reply from 193.252.123.45: bytes=32 time=526ms TTL=47

Ping statistics for 193.252.123.45:
    Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 499ms, Maximum = 526ms, Average = 513ms

My normal ping time when the shit is working is around 30-40ms.
 

Flimgoblin

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actually it's that gblx.net router:

8 288 ms 291 ms 279 ms so1-0-0-2488M.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [67.17.73.90]

the higher pings start there.... that'd be global crossing not opentransit...
 

MaditioN

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still sux, global crossing shit prolly belongs to opentransit!
 

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Moaning Myrtle said:
That's it - don't back down in the face of overwhelming evidence you're wrong ;)

:worthy:

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MaditioN

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hehe :]

8 288 ms 291 ms 279 ms so1-0-0-2488M.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [67.17.73.90]
9 497 ms 523 ms 500 ms opentransit-1.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [64.208.110.2]

9th global crossing is opentransit or am i wrong? :)
 

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MaditioN said:
still sux, global crossing shit prolly belongs to opentransit!

nope, its an american company and they are actually very cooperative if you take contact with them with some data and ask them to look at the problem.
 

Shike

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(use pingplotter and check info on the node, u got a mailaddy to mail there, add along a cpl tracert's and pingspans and ask nicely if they can have a looksi)
 

Darzil

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MaditioN said:
hehe :]

8 288 ms 291 ms 279 ms so1-0-0-2488M.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [67.17.73.90]
9 497 ms 523 ms 500 ms opentransit-1.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [64.208.110.2]

9th global crossing is opentransit or am i wrong? :)

Wrong I'd say, the end of the DNS name tends to indicate the owner. I'm guessing they've called it opentransit-1 cos it's where the global crossing network routes to opentransit.

Darzil
 

Oxy

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Have had 1-2 sek delay for days now, just did a tracert and its about the same as yours. Also have Bredbandsbolaget. Anyone not with Bredbandsbolaget from Sweden got lagg?
 

Shike

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gblx have caused problems before btw, quite often so its nothing new.
 

Valgyr

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Oxy said:
Have had 1-2 sek delay for days now, just did a tracert and its about the same as yours. Also have Bredbandsbolaget. Anyone not with Bredbandsbolaget from Sweden got lagg?
Also have BB and quite some lag:(
 

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Just started suffering myself [have forward the results via right now] but eitherways its a bit of a bugger. As things stand and having spent the past 10 mins trying i cant actually log in to the game because the connection repeatedly times out which is nice. Isn't a good job this game doesn't cost money else i'd have a real reason to complain :p

Anywhos, sarcasm about the money aside, heres four tracert's for you to feast your eyes upon. I recognise there is no issues with the ping times, but its the packets getting dropped that are causing the issues. Specifics can be located in the ping test at the end.

My inept conclusion being the hopeless wannabe geek that i am, is that i dont have a single problem my end [you rawkstar blueyonder connection you /em pats their router] however the the problem, shock horror, and in turn the place i shall pointeth my finger, is open transit and in turn goa! :)

Last point, the ip im pinging should be that of Avalon.

Attempt 1
Code:
C:\Documents and Settings\Paul Jones>tracert 193.252.123.45

Tracing route to 193.252.123.45 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     *     193.252.123.45  reports: Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

Attempt 2
Code:
C:\Documents and Settings\Paul Jones>tracert 193.252.123.45

Tracing route to 193.252.123.45 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     *     193.252.123.45  reports: Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

Attempt 3
Code:
C:\Documents and Settings\Paul Jones>tracert 193.252.123.45

Tracing route to 193.252.123.45 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    28 ms    27 ms    26 ms  10.89.16.1
  3    28 ms    16 ms    19 ms  pc-62-30-242-97-bn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.242.97]
  4    48 ms    28 ms    24 ms  pc-62-30-242-53-bn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.242.53]
  5    18 ms    18 ms    26 ms  pc-62-30-242-74-bn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.242.74]
  6    73 ms    45 ms    25 ms  bcs1-so-1-3-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [206.24.169.89]
  7    33 ms    19 ms    19 ms  bcs2-as0-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.202]
  8   106 ms     *       48 ms  P4-0.LONBB3.London.opentransit.net [206.24.169.158]
  9    19 ms    11 ms    12 ms  so-4-0-0-0.loncr5.London.opentransit.net [193.251.242.169]
 10    33 ms    36 ms    24 ms  po12-0.pascr2.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.242.17]
 11    26 ms    23 ms     *     gi0-0.pascr1.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.243.122]
 12     *       54 ms     *     wanadooportails-1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.54]
 13    26 ms    27 ms     *     Interco-rtbg1esite02-RTX5-122-14-30.woo [193.252.122.14]
 14    43 ms    23 ms     *     193.252.123.45
 15    40 ms    36 ms    48 ms  193.252.123.45

Trace complete.

Attempt 4
Code:
C:\Documents and Settings\Paul Jones>tracert 193.252.123.45

Tracing route to 193.252.123.45 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    14 ms    13 ms    16 ms  10.89.16.1
  3    15 ms    37 ms    25 ms  pc-62-30-242-97-bn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.242.97]
  4    23 ms    11 ms    23 ms  pc-62-30-242-53-bn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.242.53]
  5    27 ms    35 ms    34 ms  pc-62-30-242-74-bn.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.242.74]
  6    19 ms    26 ms    27 ms  bcs1-so-1-3-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [206.24.169.89]
  7    30 ms    34 ms    33 ms  bcs2-as0-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.202]
  8    22 ms    28 ms    26 ms  P4-0.LONBB3.London.opentransit.net [206.24.169.158]
  9     *       30 ms    45 ms  so-4-0-0-0.loncr5.London.opentransit.net [193.251.242.169]
 10    20 ms     *        *     po12-0.pascr2.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.242.17]
 11    30 ms     *        *     gi0-0.pascr1.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.243.122]
 12     *       39 ms    29 ms  wanadooportails-1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.54]
 13    21 ms    22 ms    32 ms  Interco-rtbg1esite02-RTX5-122-14-30.woo [193.252.122.14]
 14    22 ms     *       47 ms  193.252.123.45

Trace complete.


Or a nice lengthy ping which ive cut down to specifics;

Code:
C:\Documents and Settings\Paul Jones>ping -n 1000 193.252.123.45


* Insert 1000 Ping responses here (yes i waited 20 mins this data) *


Ping statistics for 193.252.123.45:
    Packets: Sent = 1000, Received = 752, Lost = 248 (24% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 92ms, Average = 36ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Paul Jones>

24% packet loss, cant complain but the real question is, that now a standard has been set lets make our own game, who thinks they can beat me? :p
 

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even though madi is a nazi swede hes right to blame the french!

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Darzil

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Nothing wrong there, cmr, just a router that has been set to ignore ping requests when it's busy. You'll notice that all the things past it are fine, which indicates it's only dropping traffic to it directly, not traffic flowing through it.

Darzil
 

Heta

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MaditioN said:
hehe :]

8 288 ms 291 ms 279 ms so1-0-0-2488M.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [67.17.73.90]
9 497 ms 523 ms 500 ms opentransit-1.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [64.208.110.2]

9th global crossing is opentransit or am i wrong? :)

I kept readin the adress over and over, and took me sevral tries not to get is to A2M
 

Oxy

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Still the same, takes about 2 sek ingame to get char to move...

Sent in pingplotter now, been this way about a week now.

What is GOA going to do about this!
 

Flimgoblin

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given it's not GOA or Opentransit I'm not sure how much they can do.

They might be able to tell you who to get in contact with.
 

Tor

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I've got the same problem...:( (also using Bredbandsbolaget). Just sent a printout from pingplotter to hostmaster@gblx.net and kindly asked them for help. Hopefully they can do something about this.....

/Tor
 

Oxy

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Tor said:
I've got the same problem...:( (also using Bredbandsbolaget). Just sent a printout from pingplotter to hostmaster@gblx.net and kindly asked them for help. Hopefully they can do something about this.....

/Tor
Done =).



The problem for me starts at opentransit-1.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net , kinda sounds like opentransits problem eye :flame:
 

Flimgoblin

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opentransit-1.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net

this is a subdomain of ar3.ams2.gblx.net which is a subdomain of ams2.gblx.net which is a subdomain of gblx.net which is not opentransit.

Same way Freddyshouse doesn't belong to the "Forums" company or something... (being forums.freddyshouse.com)
 

MaditioN

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Flimgoblin said:
opentransit-1.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net

this is a subdomain of ar3.ams2.gblx.net which is a subdomain of ams2.gblx.net which is a subdomain of gblx.net which is not opentransit.

Same way Freddyshouse doesn't belong to the "Forums" company or something... (being forums.freddyshouse.com)

mayhaps its named like that because its linked to opentransit network and not on gblx network?

seems the first global crossing router is alive and kicking now atleast..

Code:
Tracing route to 193.252.123.45 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  ua-85-227-160-1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.160.1]
  2    19 ms    20 ms    19 ms  vlan2.dr2.sto7.se.bredband.com [195.54.118.26]
  3    19 ms    20 ms    19 ms  port-channel4.dr1.sto40.se.bredband.com [195.54.116.254]
  4    21 ms    20 ms    20 ms  port-channel14.cr2.sto3.se.bredband.com [195.54.115.174]
  5    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  ge3-0.cr1.sto1.se.bredband.com [195.54.114.245]
  6    19 ms    20 ms    20 ms  ge4-0-0.br3.sto1.se.bredband.com [195.54.123.113]
  7    20 ms    25 ms    20 ms  64.215.185.81
  8    39 ms    39 ms    38 ms  so0-0-0-2488M.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [67.17.73.86]
  9   259 ms   262 ms   258 ms  opentransit-1.ar3.AMS2.gblx.net [64.208.110.2]
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13   275 ms   271 ms   276 ms  po3-0.pascr1.Paris.opentransit.net [193.251.128.118]
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15   275 ms   273 ms   276 ms  Interco-rtbg1esite02-RTX5-122-14-30.woo [193.252.122.14]
 16   270 ms   276 ms   273 ms  193.252.123.45

Trace complete.
 

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Anything with AMS in the name is guaranteed to be slow and malfunctioning really.
 

Flimgoblin

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MaditioN said:
mayhaps its named like that because its linked to opentransit network and not on gblx network?


it's their link to opentransit, however given it's that server that has an increase in ping it means either your connection to that server is slow - not necessarily anything past it (though it could be that other later things are also slow that router's problems are obscuring it - can't tell how much of any later latency is down to that hop)
 

Darzil

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Flimgoblin said:
it's their link to opentransit, however given it's that server that has an increase in ping it means either your connection to that server is slow - not necessarily anything past it (though it could be that other later things are also slow that router's problems are obscuring it - can't tell how much of any later latency is down to that hop)

I'd argue you can :

Up to hop 8 = ave 39ms
Hop 8 - hop 9 = ave 221ms
Hop 9 - hop 16 = ave 13ms

It's not like packetloss where it's obscured by the link where packetloss occurs, and it's remarkably consistant in timing, so unlikely to be obscured by the small sample size.

Darzil
 

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