Bad Driving?

[Golena]

But think of it this way, it would be worse if they where people who not only had a license, but had POINTS on it, and had picked up motoring fines due to shitty driving. That would be really fucking insulting.*

100 billion % wrong.

Sorry but i'd say that until you've had an accident due to shitty driving your in zero position to judge if what you are doing is wreckless.
The fact is that you can say your not driving recklessly until your blue in the face, but you've never had an accident. That means that nothing has ever gone wrong in order for you to see what happens when it does, so i'd say that your actually in no position to comment either.
Until you hit that bit of mud and actually lose control of the car at 70mph you've no idea what it's actualy like and therefore what your going to do at that time. I know if you aked me before I had an accident if I was driving wrecklessly i'd of said, no and i've never had a crash so that must be proof. Looking back I probably was and in trying to point out to other people who haven't had the accident but are driving exactly the same was I was when I had one, I ALWAYS get the same answer, the one i'd of given before hitting a wall as well.

At the end of the day if you give people a lift then your taking their lives in your hands. If they don't feel safe then slow down and get there 10 mins later so they do, or refuse to give them a lift full stop no matter how much they beg you. When they are bitching about how wreckless your being as you actually do hit something, and chances are you will at some point, you'll really really regret it. If your refusing to slow down if your gf is actually scared by it just shows what a crappy idiot you really are tbh, regardless of if you feel it's safe or not.

Yes it's often "safe" to go above the speed limit, but only do it if the people in the car entrusting you with their lives are actually happy for you to do it at least! If nothing else a passenger tends to see more of what's happening around you since you've got other things to concentrate on and it's all the things your missing while tanking along "safely" that are going to bite you.

 

[Lamp]

Worst drivers are men not women IMO
Young Asians with their little black 3 door hot hatch blasting out music trying to overtake every single car
Followed by builders and white van man

 

[Zede]

Ah but i don't, for example, need to be driving to know that driving 40 on a 30 stretch is a clearcut sign of wreckless driving.

You are, wreckless. You may handle it, you may be well equipped to do so, but you still are. It's not a matter of where.

Thing is, it's critique, and those who can't take it at all, usually are making excuses like you are right now; "They don't drive, they don't know".

I don't need a phd in modern medicine to know that poking a needle in your eyes is a silly move.

You don't need to be trained in something to make an observation.

And honestly, if you drive like that all the time, congratulations on not killing anyone. Drive by the limits or get off the roads.

Speed limits are set to accomodate the dullards of society. No idea what, but id say a good proportion of people can stop better at 40 than "average" drivers do at 30. I know I can, 18 years driving & never been the cause of a crash. Give 18 years no claims bonus ? fat chance, limit is 7. IM DISCRIMINATED AGAINST .

 

[old.Tohtori]

Speed limits are set to accomodate the dullards of society. No idea what, but id say a good proportion of people can stop better at 40 than "average" drivers do at 30. I know I can, 18 years driving & never been the cause of a crash. Give 18 years no claims bonus ? fat chance, limit is 7. IM DISCRIMINATED AGAINST .

Don't care really. When you crash, that 10 mph wills ave peoples lives. If all drove like you, we'd have carnage. You're tempting faith with a 2 ton metal monster.

As said, there's no leanway here.

 

[Dukat]

Don't care really. When you crash, that 10 mph wills ave peoples lives. If all drove like you, we'd have carnage. You're tempting faith with a 2 ton metal monster.

As said, there's no leanway here.

The thing is Toh, everyone drives like that and worse - when I first got a bike that would do the speed limit and not much more I was constantly being overtaken by everything on the road, even in quiet villages with 30 speed limits I'd be doing 35 and still have asshats trying to mount me from behind every single time.

Next to no one does the limits, it doesnt make it right as such, but the limits are unrealistic in certain places. No it doesnt excuse those people who drive recklessly, but I really do believe that there is a difference between driving recklessly and driving over certain prescribed speed limits.

I'm not alone in this belief either - numerous groups that study traffic statistics etc are the same - many road safety groups actually believe that speed limits cause more problems in some areas than they solve. Did you know that the motorways in the uk, supposedly less than half of the traffic travels at the speedlimit ? its not an unbelievable claim for someone who has been on one (cant get access to the source for that data atm, will link to it later if needed), the thing is motorways in the UK are also by far the safest roads in the UK.

I just dont think its as black and white as "under the limit = safe" "over the limit = reckless".

 

[Huntingtons]

yeah well, groups of scientists dont believe in holocaust, go figure.
what im saying is you can find studies for anything you want.
And if everybody sticked to the limits there would be alot less problems in the traffic. Speed isnt the only reason people die in the traffic, but its a cause that easily could be removed.
agreeing with Golena. If you dont slow down when asked by passenger you deffo is reckless. And you're not a good driver just because you dont crash.


as you may notice im against speeding.

 

[Billargh]

Speed limits are set to accomodate the dullards of society. No idea what, but id say a good proportion of people can stop better at 40 than "average" drivers do at 30. I know I can, 18 years driving & never been the cause of a crash. Give 18 years no claims bonus ? fat chance, limit is 7. IM DISCRIMINATED AGAINST .

Just being picky, but isn't the highest no claims you can have 9 or 10 years plus?

 

[Golena]

18 years driving & never been the cause of a crash.

I bet that's exactly what most people say right before driving into something.

Now i'd much rather people drove at 35 or 40 through a 30 limit while keeping what they feel is a safe speed for the road than drive through the same stretch of road at 30 while staring at their speedo. Lets hope more idiots don't come along with their you should be able to tell exactly to the mph what speed your doing without ever looking down arguments (which is why I hate speed cameras).
Saying "I'm a better driver than everyone else so I can drive at 40 in a 30 limit and it's ok" is stupid tho. Your average person driving at 30 has accidents. That means your better driver at 40 is also going to have them where as he might not while driving at 30.

Speed limits ideally should be a guide as to how fast you should be going, not the retarded, 30 fine, 31 CRIMINAL!! they are used for at the moment however.

 

[Cemeterygates]

Worst drivers are men not women IMO
Young Asians with their little black 3 door hot hatch blasting out music trying to overtake every single car
Followed by builders and white van man

The white van is the fastest vehicle known to man!

 

[liloe]

Don't care really. When you crash, that 10 mph wills ave peoples lives. If all drove like you, we'd have carnage. You're tempting faith with a 2 ton metal monster.

As said, there's no leanway here.

If I do 170 on some street limited to 130 at night and I crash, some poor sod has to pick up my corpse, but hell, they get paid for doing that. Apart from that, nobody will really care. Hell, the funeral industry is happy for evey accident that happens.

Now I'm not gonna do the same thing during daytimes, cause the risk of cameras is way too big, but let's face it. Either the highway is full of people and I can't go faster anyway or there is nobody which results in: nobody can be hurt.

I agree that some speed limits are really useful, so personally I see them as hint for those who are too retarded to see, that it's good to drive slow in a road with lots of children or old people. For those who fail to see that water on the road is really badass and means you need to slow down a lot.

I just fail to see why I should be limited to drive 130 on an empty road in very good condition. Keeping higher safety distances when driving fast is crucial, though and there are a lot of idiots who don't even respect them when driving normally …

 

[tris-]

another reason to drive the speed limit is if you hit someone, yes its possible you may not kill them but if you did, theyd know how fast youre going. they can work out the speed by the length of the tyre marks etc.

so if you do hit someone and kill them at 30mph, its better for you in court than if you were doing 50mph.

 

[liloe]

they can work out the speed by the length of the tyre marks etc.

That's if I break, muahahaha