While I dont really disagree with you, Im not sure you're correct. I dont have any numbers in the iraq, dont know if they even consist, but just look at the Israeli military. They sure know how to injure and kill people, seeing as they managed to kill... was it 3 thousand people, and the Hamas killed about 20 people. And the military on all sides have a lot more destructive weapons than any terrorist.I'm still finding it amusing how they lay all the blame on soldiers with pictures of dead or injured children, how many of those children were injured due to a suicide bomber? how many were injured from motar/bomb fire from terrorists? as far as they're concerned any death that happend to civilians over there it was the soldiers, not the suicide bombers or terrorist motor/rpg/cross fires that did it, its the soldiers and thats wrong.
I'm not saying no civilians died due to fire from either allied side but its wrong to lay the blame all on one side, especially soldiers just coming home that are safe, alive and back home with loved ones and family.
hats off to the men and woman of this country that served.
While I dont really disagree with you, Im not sure you're correct. I dont have any numbers in the iraq, dont know if they even consist, but just look at the Israeli military. They sure know how to injure and kill people, seeing as they managed to kill... was it 3 thousand people, and the Hamas killed about 20 people. And the military on all sides have a lot more destructive weapons than any terrorist.
Yet, you don't see soldiers running into crowds of innocent people or driving into them with cemtex strapped to themselves do you? nor do you see soldiers murdering people because they have different beliefs.
Be ready for a very long read and decide for yourself whos the murders and butchers because i'm sick of this age old arguement.
not meaning to belittle your work, but i dont get the point of it
It is pretty non-consequencial other than a shock factor, but it holds no weight in a real discussion
Simple reason i can do the same
August 6, 1945 - Hiroshima 200,000 deaths (almost a 100% population extinction)
August 9, 1945 - Nagasaki 73,884 deaths (another 74,909 injured) deathtoll still rising
In 2 lines i have dwarfed your list, do i get a cookie?
Simple reason i can do the same
August 6, 1945 - Hiroshima 200,000 deaths (almost a 100% population extinction)
August 9, 1945 - Nagasaki 73,884 deaths (another 74,909 injured) deathtoll still rising
In 2 lines i have dwarfed your list, do i get a cookie?
not meaning to belittle your work, but i dont get the point of it
It is pretty non-consequencial other than a shock factor, but it holds no weight in a real discussion
Simple reason i can do the same
August 6, 1945 - Hiroshima 200,000 deaths (almost a 100% population extinction)
August 9, 1945 - Nagasaki 73,884 deaths (another 74,909 injured) deathtoll still rising
In 2 lines i have dwarfed your list, do i get a cookie?
yes
cos two wrongs have always made a right, obviously
you want to try again ?
They dont regard them as their own people though do they?, nor does western policyWell no, because that would only work if Japan dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagaskai as the point being made was that the terrorists have killed more of their own people than any country's armed forces.
I dont disagree with you, but people here are saying they shouldnt be allowed to protestI think Bloodomen's point is this. He's just listed all the suicide bombings for the last 5 or so years. All done by entremists. All those people that were protesting are doing is providing fodder for the propaganda mills and more potential influence for the people that do the recruiting for these extremist cells.
Not really, i suggest you re-read what it was in responce to rather than trying and failing miserably to be a smart-arse
Bloodomen was using that long list to say "terrorists" using the term loosley considering the context of some of it were killing more civilians. I have just proven him wrong using just 1 country
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They dont regard them as their own people though do they?, nor does western policy
This is a "war on terror", and extremist are regarded as combatants
They dont regard them as their own people though do they?, nor does western policy
This is a "war on terror", and extremist are regarded as combatants
The terrorists, or more accurately extremistsWho doesn't regard who as their own people?
The fact still remains they are doing nothing wrong legally, so some of the comments here about "deport them", "omgz police arent doing anything to stop a peaceful protest" are just plain laughable.
Perhaps you should,lol @ "loosley" go look up the definition of "terrorist".
terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
Perhaps you should,
Attacking military installations is not terrorism as there are no civilians in there, thats why it is used "loosely" in regard to that list
True enough, but that is the precedence set in 2005You're right, legally they're not doing anything wrong but you can be bloody certain that it's been organised that way, doesn't matter what they're shouting you just know that what they're thinking is "I wish death on all of you Kafir dogs!" And it amounts to the same thing because a terrorist will see that and know that these people are morally supporting their actions.
The terrorists, or more accurately extremistsdont regard the current government as their own they are seen as put in place by a foreign power thus fair game with the utlimate goal of having "their" country back
Which is fine, except they're not targeting the Government. You seem to only be arguing half a point for some reason Chronic?
Either you're not reading the whole of the posts that are being written in reply, or you're misconstruing them for your own reasons.
The people in the market places, the people who've signed up to be policemen etc to try and help get Iraq back on its feet, that the terrorists and suicide bombers are targeting, don't meet your - they were put in place by someone else so don't count - argument.
you dont even have the first clue of which territory you're begining to walk into with that comment...Now I'm not saying dropping a couple of wacking great bombs on the heads of civilians was a terribly noble thing to do but it ended the war and saved untold thousands more innocent lives.
Not really, i suggest you re-read what it was in responce to rather than trying and failing miserably to be a smart-arse
Bloodomen was using that long list to say "terrorists" using the term loosley considering the context of some of it were killing more civilians. I have just proven him wrong using just 1 country
Can you link me as i found nothing of the sort, i found articles where the number of people allowed to protest was limited not the protest itself
As for the links, the point is that they were deported for "inciting religious hatred" after sufficient evidence was gathered. Also i think the police protection was after the press got hold of it and a hearing was scheduled which happens to all high profile cases
Yet you do nothing but post vague statements and when called on it "OMGZ THATS NOT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT <insert pathetic attempt at insults>"Oh, was I now? I think you best read over the entire thread again then "Smart-arse" or just leave now because you've clearly not read it properly. That wasn't my point at all and if you can't honestly see the point i'm not going to stick it on a plinth and label it for you.
Other people got the whole point in yet you fail to see it, thats why you fail Chronic. Its also why your full of shit half of the time.... Sorry most of the time.
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"Police banned a National Front march, but the group's supporters still turned up"
They also banned one a few years later. But the extremists never get their rallies banned. I in no way condone any of these rallies, by either side, Im merely pointing out that there is no freedom of speech, unless you are an extremist, or in the minority.
Yet you do nothing but post vague statements and when called on it "OMGZ THATS NOT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT <insert pathetic attempt at insults>"
you dont even have the first clue of which territory you're begining to walk into with that comment...