attention all necro's

Glacier

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dont like the game? dont play it, you yourself cant change the entire community, if , as you say, the french server is much more friendly, well.. i dont see what you are still doing here (you might not be here still, i dunno, just persuming) anyways.

Daoc is a game that has gone on for a long time, new players will be treated with attitude, wether people like to admit or not.

saying you cant get groups is bull****.
You may have tried and failed, but if you cant change the community to your own good, change for the good of the community, dont come on here with demands.. i may sound harsh, but thats the way the game is to day, take it, or leave it.

Click here if you still aint happy
 

Fellbeast

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kirennia said:
You still have yet to mention what classes you played on hib and mid. To make a similar comparison, you'd of course have to choose an equivalent in their realm. So to make a fair analysis, you played a thane and mentalist right? :)
Well honestly, on Mid it was the more group friendly character, being a healer.

But on Hib, I played mentalist en enchanter
 

Fellbeast

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Moo said:
yey one less retard

NECROS ARE NOT MAIN CHARS, IF YOU ONLY HAVE A 50 NECRO PL URSELF A PROPER CHAR.
Call me a retard do you?
Who the fuck do you think you are?


So if you have the bad luck of liking necromancers, you have to buy a second account to pl yourself a second character?
Now that sounds like something a TRUE retard would say.
 

Fellbeast

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Glacier said:
saying you cant get groups is bull****.
You may have tried and failed, but if you cant change the community to your own good, change for the good of the community, dont come on here with demands.. i may sound harsh, but thats the way the game is to day, take it, or leave it.

Click here if you still aint happy
First of all, in response to the non-quoted part of your post, I already am on a French server.

What do you imply by changing for the good of the community. I like necromancers (not only the class or it's abilities in-game, but the entire idea of necromancers). So in the end I get responses in RVR like "of course we're ignoring you, you're only a necromancer". And I have to adapt to a lousy community like that? I have to play what the others want then?

If such is the case, I don't see why I would bother to play the game at all?
 

Thorwyn

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You still don´t get it do you?

And I have to adapt to a lousy community like that? I have to play what the others want then?
Nope, but the community has to play what and as you want? And doing or not doing so is the decisive factor of a good community respectively a good realm? Like you put it yourself: Who the f*ck do you think you are? Lose your goddamn "here we are now, entertain us"-attitude.

So if you have the bad luck of liking necromancers, you have to buy a second account to pl yourself a second character?
Nope, you can also "go see a Necro" and let him PL you. They´re waiting for your PM. Or do the unspeakable and go level a char in the traditional way. Maybe you even learn a thing or two about the pros and cons of other classes on your way.

But on Hib, I played mentalist en enchanter
um... so: you´ve played a Healer and a Chanter. And then come here, roll a Necro and tell us you´ve had a lot more groups in Hib and Mid.

omfg
 

Fellbeast

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OMG I can't believe it... Dou you actually read the whole text of a post or only the parts on which you can complain?

I've never asked the community to adapt to me. As stated two or three times before, I could have lived with with it. But they ignored it, and when I asked if I was being ignored (after asking for a group in a friendly fashion several times), I got the answer "of course we ignore you, you're a necro". And that is the fact that buggers me. This attitude towards necro's who want to RVR. Ignoring them.

And your specialty, it seems is to read only reading part of the post. I said healer, enchanter and MENTALIST.

But you've cheerly ignored the MENTALIST (I write it in capitals each time, so you can't miss it again). Ignoring seems to be a Alb/Exc. specialty
 

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BTW I've never been pl'ed.I've refused all offers for PL, so don't come and speak to me as if I consider leveling a char in the normal way "an unspeakable thing".
 

Thorwyn

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So you actually think what you´re complaining about before you start?
You´ve started this thread about Necros and that they´re not being accepted in RvR groups. Not a single word about being ignored or people being generally impolite. When you´re startig a thread, it´s usually a good idea to express what you´re talking about. The "They´re ignoring me, how impolite" part showed up after people started bringing arguments against your narrowminded POV and your ridiculous boycott campaign.
Yes, ignoring people is impolite. No, you don´t need to be a Necro to make this amazing discovery. No, it´s NOT different on other servers. No, this is NOT what your thread and your initial complain was about. As if you wouldn´t have started the same thread if people would have said "no, you´re a necro, we don´t want you".

I've never asked the community to adapt to me.
No?
Then it might be a good idea to stop patronizing an entire realm with your pseudo-socialist naive babbling of everybody has it´s use everywhere as if you´re Mr. Know-it-all (btw.. you´re not Eneq by any chance are you?):

Every class has it's own abilities in both PvP and RvR.
This means one thing: people aren't willing to try
Which proves my point again. Where has the fun gone?
Does this mean:

a) the game is screwed?
b) the game is filled with idiots who can't realize it's only a damn game?
I think it's time people started to learn o play with necro's in RvR (that's where the whole problem lies, you know), just as they should learn to play with Scouts and infils in PvE
Exc/Alb is not my idea of proper RVR.
I gave you one possible solution for your entire dilemma: join a guild, form a guildgroup. You didn´t even respond to this idea. I wonder why. You seem to be immune to any form of argumentation. If people are responding to your POV, you´re either ignoring it, or you´re switching arguments to a meta-level (hey, it wasn´t WHAT they said, it was HOW they´ve said it). You´re not even INTERESTED in a solution. Your POV of an entire realm (based upon a couple people standing around at atk, 80% of them BB´s) is fixed.

I said healer, enchanter and MENTALIST.
Yes! Oh my f*cking god YES! Your impressive list of played chars really contained exactly ONE other char (between Healer and Chanter!) that´s considered non-groupfriendly. Now you´ve seen it all, don´t you.

I give up, go roll a Hib or a Mid, be happy there and enjoy your groups. Good riddance.
 

Acercerak

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Hi,

I come from the french servers (Broceliande and Ys) and I've heard about this thread from a friend about this thread.

I think Fellbeast is clearly exagerating.

Yes, it is possible that necro's are not accepted for RvR on the server, and yes, they are (relatively) easyly accepted in RVR.
But then again, each server's community works in a different fashion. If yu can't work well in the fashion Albion/excalibur plays, dont complain about it and change servers.

But stop arguing about it. If you are as stubborn on the French servers as you are on the English ones, you'll run into the same troubles all again.

On the other side, I understand it must be frustrating not to find groups in RVR, and I understand that you get annoyed by being ignored. I don't see any problems with Necro's in RVR (personnally). I play a Thane over there and the one thing I'm most afraid of is a necromancer, supported with cleric buffs and a fighter. (but I haven't looked at it from Albion's side, so my point of view is a bit flawed). But it always boils down to the same: it would seem that necro's on your server have to prove themselves first. so prove yourself and be done with it.
 

Fellbeast

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Thorwyn[B&Q] said:
Yes! Oh my f*cking god YES! Your impressive list of played chars really contained exactly ONE other char (between Healer and Chanter!) that´s considered non-groupfriendly. Now you´ve seen it all, don´t you.

I give up, go roll a Hib or a Mid, be happy there and enjoy your groups. Good riddance.

OK, you have a point about my mentioning the part of the rudeness I encountered too late to be really acceptable. So I drop that part of my entire problem. Not apologizing for it, tho.

And this impressive list of characters as you call it, was the list of high-level chars I had, I've played a fewother characters to levels between 30 and 40, but since I have not gone into emain/Odin's/Sauvage with them, I don't count them. However I do think I understand the capacities of each class well enough to understand that they all are effective in RvR. A fact You all desperately seem to fail to see.

Call it good riddance if you will, I don't care what you think about me. Albs always had a very bad reputation in the other 2 realms, and I honestly start to think it is deserved
 

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Most necros (at least those that play the class as their main), this one in particular, have a chip on their shoulder the size of a small planet.
 

Acercerak

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Alb's are sissies :) that's the only problem we have with them :clap:

Seriously now, with this kind of behaviour, you won't be accepted on any server.

Be a little more open-minded
 

Acercerak

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Belomar said:
Most necros (at least those that play the class as their main), this one in particular, have a chip on their shoulder the size of a small planet.
Enchanters are even worse :D I can tell, I have one :p
 

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Fellbeast said:
Look, at it from my side. Nero's are good hen they PL you. When you need money, go see a necro.
When a necro asks for a grp, tell him to sod off.

The worst part is, being ignored when asking for a group. If they had said from the beginning on "sorry, we don't need a necro", I could have accepted it. But to totally ignore me, that's what I consider rude. And yes, I have only met things like these on Alb/Exc.

-Make a group friendly character? Necromancers have good abilities to aid a group (except for good damage output, don't forget we can transfer mana, and add a non xp-leeching tank pet in the combat)

-Damage output not high enough? (that's another funny one I heard) Wizards apparently have a bigger damage output than necro's. speaking per bolt, yes, a wiz does more damage per individual bolt. But he's out of mana very quickly. Necro's aren't and just continue blasting.

If you look at it well enough, there are no group-unfriendly characters. Every character has it's use in a group (yes, even scouts in PvE). And because Albs fail to see this on Exc., they constantly get their butts kicked by the far better organized Mids.
If you have a problem with people being rude take up with them not us, I myself have a RR3/4 necro, 10 bubs on him and I havent played him in ages.

He is not group friendly, I have an Armsman that I started with over 2 years ago, I dont play him in RVR becasue he is not group friendly.

I have a Infiltrator that I love, she rocks and she can solo/group whatever, I have a cleric that can group, I have a wizard that I solo/group with, I have a cabi that rocks solo/group and I have the arms and Necro that I dont bother playing with anymore mythic screwed them plain and simple they are not enjoyable to play therefore I do not play them.

I do not blame Albion for this I blame Mythic plain and simple.

Do not blame Albs for not inviting a high risk char into a group, I have one and I wont invite a necro, having said that I run unconventional groups but thats our choice.
 

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Fellbeast said:
OMG I can't believe it... Dou you actually read the whole text of a post or only the parts on which you can complain?

I've never asked the community to adapt to me. As stated two or three times before, I could have lived with with it. But they ignored it, and when I asked if I was being ignored (after asking for a group in a friendly fashion several times), I got the answer "of course we ignore you, you're a necro". And that is the fact that buggers me. This attitude towards necro's who want to RVR. Ignoring them.

And your specialty, it seems is to read only reading part of the post. I said healer, enchanter and MENTALIST.

But you've cheerly ignored the MENTALIST (I write it in capitals each time, so you can't miss it again). Ignoring seems to be a Alb/Exc. specialty
Some people in a wider community alledgedly ignored you....if you had asked me for a group I would have told you straight, no tks, dont need a necro.

Would you have felt better about rolling a necro ? End result is the same, most people do not want necros in thier groups.

I've played all those chars you mention, all have higher group utlity than a necro full stop.
 

Fellbeast

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Hmmm.

I've just read back the whole thread.
And I realized one thing:

I acted like a total idiot. :mad: in several ways.

I need to apologize to any of you whom I insulted.

Especially you, Bahamot. You actually treated me quite kindly that night, for which you have my thanks. And yet I was rude to you :mad: Sorry for that, man.

I should have realized that necro's are not a group friendly character and that I shouldn't have expected to find a group easily. Well, I guess I punished myself hard enough with it, by deleting my own chars.

So I have remade new chars on Albion/Excalibur (I'm keeping them anonymous here for awhile. Can't have their career ruined up by the bad reputation I've made here for myself ;) ).

The only point I stick to is that ignoring somebody who asks for grp should not be ignored. This rudeness can actually screw up your evening. Had I reacted any differently if I had not been ignored this way? Maybe I would and maybe I wouldn't have. I think I would have reacted differently.

Anyway, I considered that the past now. I'm gonna try and forget what has happened here. I hope you guys can do the same.
 

Chopke

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It takes a brave man to admit to making mistakes.

Why would we hold it against you for being mad, since it is a normal human reaction?

Just don't do it again :p
 

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