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TdC

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eh? you do know how SLI works don't you?

tbh I both agree and dissagree with you Aada. There are several things I have against SLI, especially the way nVidia have done it. In this respect 3Dfx knew wat they were about back when they did it. (yeah, I started off with two voodooII's once apon a time. that *really* made a difference)
In fact, the way I run my cards is prolly the most inefficient way possible, as I have a tft with a native rez of 1280x1024 and I run everything in that mode. I know for a fact that current GPUs really shine when pushed, so a higher rez would potentially benefit me. Still, when I use the widget to see what the load is on the two GPUs they're most certainly hard at work :)

Still, I like to pretend that I sometimes see the added power of the extra card in action, with AA and AF maxed out in a high rez, smoke and grit in CoD2 etc. I admit it's hard though because I expect a certain level of performance and always get it. Because of this I no-longer see it. Know what I mean? when I got a pentium 200mmx 10 years ago I thought it was the most blindingly fast thing I'd ever seen in a computer, as I came from an AMD 100MHz 486. In this manner I compare gfx cards: I had a radeon 9700pro for ages and moved to an nVidia 6600GT. Huge performance gain, dude, like words fail me. On a whim I decided to get two cards to see if that was fun and that's where the two 7800GT's come from. Was it the same impact as the previous move? No, no, it wasn't, because the difference is far less noticable with the previous card being closer in the performance scale.

You're missing my meaning when you claim I'm not running a game better than someone without an SLI rig. I never said I was running things better, I was saying I [highlight]expect a certain level of performance[/highlight]. It's not the same.
 

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TdC said:
eh? you do know how SLI works don't you?

tbh I both agree and dissagree with you Aada. There are several things I have against SLI, especially the way nVidia have done it. In this respect 3Dfx knew wat they were about back when they did it. (yeah, I started off with two voodooII's once apon a time. that *really* made a difference)
In fact, the way I run my cards is prolly the most inefficient way possible, as I have a tft with a native rez of 1280x1024 and I run everything in that mode. I know for a fact that current GPUs really shine when pushed, so a higher rez would potentially benefit me. Still, when I use the widget to see what the load is on the two GPUs they're most certainly hard at work :)

Still, I like to pretend that I sometimes see the added power of the extra card in action, with AA and AF maxed out in a high rez, smoke and grit in CoD2 etc. I admit it's hard though because I expect a certain level of performance and always get it. Because of this I no-longer see it. Know what I mean? when I got a pentium 200mmx 10 years ago I thought it was the most blindingly fast thing I'd ever seen in a computer, as I came from an AMD 100MHz 486. In this manner I compare gfx cards: I had a radeon 9700pro for ages and moved to an nVidia 6600GT. Huge performance gain, dude, like words fail me. On a whim I decided to get two cards to see if that was fun and that's where the two 7800GT's come from. Was it the same impact as the previous move? No, no, it wasn't, because the difference is far less noticable with the previous card being closer in the performance scale.

You're missing my meaning when you claim I'm not running a game better than someone without an SLI rig. I never said I was running things better, I was saying I [highlight]expect a certain level of performance[/highlight]. It's not the same.


Sorry bud i wasn't saying YOU.

I just meant SLI in general is not worth it.. like you said you won't notice the difference with the extra card because tbh there is little difference if any at all.

COD2 actually looks and runs better on the xbox 360.

You go on a forum (im not saying you because your not like this) and you'll see the idiot guy there spouting off his crap about how uber SLI is then i'll challenge him to give some evidence how SLI is the holy grail in gaming.. he won't respond because SLI doesn't make the slightest bit difference imo.

But im not saying thats you :) im saying most people with SLI think their rig is the god of rigs.

I run all my games on max res/graphics and all the rest of the candy.. i doubt there would be much difference from my rig and your rig.
 

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tbh I doubt there will be much precieveble difference too mate :) the margins we're talking about are so slim that it's hard for a human to tell, or rather a human like me. I max everything out in gaming options, but I really can't tell you if there's a difference between 8xAA and 6xAA, I just don't see it. Having SLI doesn't help that any either: you don't magically get 16 or 32xAA because you have an extra card, you don't get resolutions above 1600x1200 that are playable. Everything stays exactly the same, and in the real world you prolly get (I'm guessing) 20% extra performance frames per second-wise.

realisticly I should have not bought the extra 7800GT and spent the money on another disk and an even faster CPU, or better, on beer, but I didn't and it's fun tbh. I like building up computers, just like I like building mountainbikes.
Like you say, if a guy with SLI says his computer pees all over yours from a great hight then I'd like to see it and if it does I'll bet it's not just the extra card. It's about what you can see and play with imo. I don't think I can tell the difference between 10000 and 14000 points from the guys at Mad Onion, and I don't think I can remember what my scores were the last time I ran the test. If the games play the way you want them to play then why worry?

I still don't know why I get that weird lag though :)
 

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I know why.. because pc gaming is never simple at times :(
 

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Aada said:
I pitty people who spend money on that SLI crap tell me do you actually know of ANY game that uses that? i can't find a single game that uses that stuff.


But then i hear someone say but they will use it within a years time but then i hit back with but something better will be out by then.

Seriously SLI x2 7800 is a joke your not running the games better then people without it.

Don't worry, Tdc is just making up for a lack of...erm...other equipement :puke:

The fact is that BF2, while looking great and being a good game is just an utter bitch....SLI is just a case of using a sledgehammer to crack a deformed nut.
 

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Gotta say that aside from the frame rate, COD2 doesn't look that amazing. Before you say anything, I'm not talking the definition here - I'm talking textures, they just look a bit smulchy on the 360. The only thing I saw that impressed me was the framerate, which was pretty damn good.
 

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nath said:
Gotta say that aside from the frame rate, COD2 doesn't look that amazing. Before you say anything, I'm not talking the definition here - I'm talking textures, they just look a bit smulchy on the 360. The only thing I saw that impressed me was the framerate, which was pretty damn good.


Ive got the game on both PC/360 the 360 looks alot better and runs awsome.


If you look at most review sites they say the same thing.

But ya the frame rate is awsome imo.

Really cannot wait to see games like BF2 coming out in march for the 360 then we can really see how it compares to the PC :)

You DO NOT even need a high def to make it look great.. both PC/360 on the same TFT monitor im not sold yet on HDTV from what ive seen you can't even notice that much of a difference that it makes you think otherwise.
 

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Embattle said:
Don't worry, Tdc is just making up for a lack of...erm...other equipement :puke:

too bad you can't ;)
 

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Well I don't base my opinions on reviews, I've actually seen it running and I was distinctly unimpressed. Oh, and High Def is fantastic if viewed on a nice big plasma, on a piddly LCD it's just alright.
 

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omg - you're all about 9 generations of gfx card on from me :(
 

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My son has my old 9800pro , Nath, with my old xp3000+ and (my old ) 2 gig of ram, and he plays CSS and BF2 etc just fine.
In fact his BF2 works conspicuously better than my, to be perfectly honest :(
 

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nath said:
I'm on a 9800Pro - how does that compare? :\


I just upgraded from the 9800pro (one of the best graphics cards ever btw) to my X850pro man its fun being able to play all the games now with graphics high ^^
 

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throdgrain said:
My son has my old 9800pro , Nath, with my old xp3000+ and (my old ) 2 gig of ram, and he plays CSS and BF2 etc just fine.
In fact his BF2 works conspicuously better than my, to be perfectly honest :(


9800pro ATi im not being funny here but 4 of my mates have BF2 all 3/4 run ATI cards and the other has Nivida.

The guy with the Nvidia card (7800 btw) is having problems like you.

The ATI guys with 9800/X850s run the game flawlessly.

I'm not trying to start a ATI/nivida war but to me the facts stare at me in the face.. Nivida cards have trouble with BF2.
 

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You're probably right, however I console myself with the fact that Nvidia are more than likely better at every other game , and as I hardly ever play BF2 thats ok :D
 

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nath said:
I'm on a 9800Pro - how does that compare? :\

9800 non-pro :p

and an Athlon 1800+ :p

(I so am winning at having a 4 year-old PC !)
 

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throdgrain said:
You're probably right, however I console myself with the fact that Nvidia are more than likely better at every other game , and as I hardly ever play BF2 thats ok :D


But you know your missing out on an awsome game it really is amazing it hasn't had a single bad review its just an awsome online shooter.
 

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I knew that was coming :)

throd = css freak :)
 

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hehehe indeed :) I thought you'd cave in much sooner :D
 

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BF2 is interesting. You can have some good games with teamwork and decent players and it'll be the best fps ever made - absolutely fantastic.

Then you can have a shit game and it can make you want to kill puppies with spatulas.
 

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I havent been able to play in about a week, stupid 'disconnected from server' bug!! :(

(I had to go and play CSS instead)
 

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Got the game today as my mate told me it was awesome!
I have an Athlon 3.2 with 1meg of ram and a Gforce FX5900 256mb and it runs smoothly on settings all high and with resolution at 1600x.... ? !
Seems a good game to me so far :)
 

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