Anyone else find rvr a turn off?

[Alhanna]

Or is it just me. Yes I am albion and no I do not AC (Could never get up that early to play games)

I just find the whole situation childish. Albion AC raid. Mids from what I have seen take them early in the morning before midday. And so we go round again. This whole thing leaves me and maybe others cold and bored of rvr and pushes to either leave or pve.

Flame me I can take it!

 

[Kagato]

I find sieges in general to be a turn off regardless of wether relics are involved or not to be fair.

But sadly sieges are a necessary evil all to often.

 

[Tuthmes]

Such Albs complaining

 

[Alhanna]

Such Albs complaining

Oh come on you can do better than that.

 

[Castus]

I find sieges in general to be a turn off regardless of wether relics are involved or not to be fair.

But sadly sieges are a necessary evil all to often.

lol says the man with 'siege guide' in his sig

 

[Sarumann]

everyone just go agramon once relic status returns to what it should be imo hibs have theirs albs have theirs and mids have theirs
If u wanne do some sieging make it primetime event so everyone can have their fun .
But still think it would be fun to encounter every RvR player that is in agramon

 

[Sharkith]

Or is it just me. Yes I am albion and no I do not AC (Could never get up that early to play games)

I just find the whole situation childish. Albion AC raid. Mids from what I have seen take them early in the morning before midday. And so we go round again. This whole thing leaves me and maybe others cold and bored of rvr and pushes to either leave or pve.

Flame me I can take it!

It sounds just like your feeling exactly what Hibs felt when the Alb AC crew did it to us for so long. It is a turn off it is boring and it sucks. It forces people to log off. It is why the community has to do something about it.

Feeling you can't is making it worse - it would make sense to try and come up with a constructive compromise.

 

[Alhanna]

It sounds just like your feeling exactly what Hibs felt when the Alb AC crew did it to us for so long. It is a turn off it is boring and it sucks. It forces people to log off. It is why the community has to do something about it.

Feeling you can't is making it worse - it would make sense to try and come up with a constructive compromise.

Ahh yes Ill goto Avalon.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

Ahh yes Ill goto Avalon.

Cya have fun

 

[Valgyr]

everyone just go agramon once relic status returns to what it should be imo hibs have theirs albs have theirs and mids have theirs
If u wanne do some sieging make it primetime event so everyone can have their fun .
But still think it would be fun to encounter every RvR player that is in agramon

Yeah agramon>>>>random tower spot, as the losing part cant RUUUUN AWAY!!!

 

[Sollac]

Yeah agramon>>>>random tower spot, as the losing part cant RUUUUN AWAY!!!

think im gonna propose an mre event - tanks only one evening and then casters only another and then stealthers the next.

be fun but how many would respect it?

 

[Sarumann]

think im gonna propose an mre event - tanks only one evening and then casters only another and then stealthers the next.

be fun but how many would respect it?

casters only will fail
dont xpect a caster or stealther feks to sit in a ram where oil is beiing dropped?

 

[Sharkith]

Ahh yes Ill goto Avalon.

your more than welcome. Go to the other servers section here and you will see there are quite a few English speaking guilds willing to accept new recruits!

At least there you will be protected by a large population from the actions of a few.

Otherwise what other solution can you see?

 

[Alhanna]

your more than welcome. Go to the other servers section here and you will see there are quite a few English speaking guilds willing to accept new recruits!

At least there you will be protected by a large population from the actions of a few.

Otherwise what other solution can you see?

Guild or Alliance leaders from all realms to not relic raid at all as it seems no one can be trusted.

 

[Javai]

Otherwise what other solution can you see?

I've found a solution that works for myself. Don't care about relics. Sure organise raids to try and take them because the raid is fun. Organise BGs to defend relics because defense is fun. But get to a point where who actually owns a relic at any given time doesn't matter to you. In this way you can enjoy whatever rvr situation occurs at the times you are able to log on.

The problems arise when people start to think of raids to attack or defend relics as 'work' (As in the phrase 'all our hard work was wasted because 8 people can retake at 5am'). I felt a little like this on Monday after running a 5 hour defense BG on Sunday afternoon. But then I realised the defense had been fun so what did it matter who owned the relics come Monday evening.

 

[Konstantin]

Ahh yes Ill goto Avalon.

welcome then m8!

 

[Alhanna]

I've found a solution that works for myself. Don't care about relics. Sure organise raids to try and take them because the raid is fun. Organise BGs to defend relics because defense is fun. But get to a point where who actually owns a relic at any given time doesn't matter to you. In this way you can enjoy whatever rvr situation occurs at the times you are able to log on.

The problems arise when people start to think of raids to attack or defend relics as 'work' (As in the phrase 'all our hard work was wasted because 8 people can retake at 5am'). I felt a little like this on Monday after running a 5 hour defense BG on Sunday afternoon. But then I realised the defense had been fun so what did it matter who owned the relics come Monday evening.

Wise words from a female. It seems that is what is needed to calm me and bring me back down to earth. Thank you. See you ingame tonight and ill mezz for you Wind.

 

[Darzil]

I've found a solution that works for myself. Don't care about relics. Sure organise raids to try and take them because the raid is fun. Organise BGs to defend relics because defense is fun. But get to a point where who actually owns a relic at any given time doesn't matter to you. In this way you can enjoy whatever rvr situation occurs at the times you are able to log on.

The problems arise when people start to think of raids to attack or defend relics as 'work' (As in the phrase 'all our hard work was wasted because 8 people can retake at 5am'). I felt a little like this on Monday after running a 5 hour defense BG on Sunday afternoon. But then I realised the defense had been fun so what did it matter who owned the relics come Monday evening.

Easier said than done, but well worth the effort. I'm 'working' on it !

Darzil

 

[Gahn]

I've found a solution that works for myself. Don't care about relics. Sure organise raids to try and take them because the raid is fun. Organise BGs to defend relics because defense is fun. But get to a point where who actually owns a relic at any given time doesn't matter to you. In this way you can enjoy whatever rvr situation occurs at the times you are able to log on.

The problems arise when people start to think of raids to attack or defend relics as 'work' (As in the phrase 'all our hard work was wasted because 8 people can retake at 5am'). I felt a little like this on Monday after running a 5 hour defense BG on Sunday afternoon. But then I realised the defense had been fun so what did it matter who owned the relics come Monday evening.

It ain't a matter of relics alone, having port cut, irvr in your realm, must run from x point to y point etc bores the shit out of peeps.
The moreso for peeps who can play 2 hours and HAVE to invest 90% of their time to retake keeps pved in the middle of the night etc every other damn day that god sends down.
It just doesn't cut it if u understand me.

 

[MaCaBr3]

I'm having fun in the game, doesn't matter what realm I play. If you want to relax after a day of hard work *cough* but immediately start to whine because they did this or that in the game, what's the point of playing it then. I'd rather watch some tv then.

 

[whitelights]

Or is it just me. Yes I am albion and no I do not AC (Could never get up that early to play games)

I just find the whole situation childish. Albion AC raid. Mids from what I have seen take them early in the morning before midday. And so we go round again. This whole thing leaves me and maybe others cold and bored of rvr and pushes to either leave or pve.

Flame me I can take it!

There is never been taken a relic before 14 30hr cet the past few days except, these who have been AC'd by albs.
:worthy:

 

[whitelights]

your more than welcome. Go to the other servers section here and you will see there are quite a few English speaking guilds willing to accept new recruits!

At least there you will be protected by a large population from the actions of a few.

Otherwise what other solution can you see?

When hibernia was being farmed all day long from about 0700 cet till 24 00 cet at night( On Avalon server) and there was not 1 single keep to get in when all relics were taken it was also a bit of a helpless feeling on avalon tough!
So don't say its all that much better there , as long as u are in the realm that is underpopulated u always get all the SH*T over u.
:worthy:

 

[Sharkith]

When hibernia was being farmed all day long from about 0700 cet till 24 00 cet at night( On Avalon server) and there was not 1 single keep to get in when all relics were taken it was also a bit of a helpless feeling on avalon tough!
So don't say its all that much better there , as long as u are in the realm that is underpopulated u always get all the SH*T over u.
:worthy:

indeed perhaps so but I am guessing that the situation is very different over there because you can get action anytime of day. I was simply pointing out that if this situation is so bad people can still move and have fun in a different place where this kind of shit is less likely to affect you.

Javai - thats a good personal tactic. I think you will probably agree that it would be hopless to assume everyone is going to see the game as you do especially since it was only really one incident of undoing things. I also wonder just how sustainable that would be under the conditions of a constant undermining of your 'fun'. This is something you have never really experienced and if you felt like that once imagine how that might feel if it happens over and over again....

Perhaps then you will be in a position to advise others on how to play the game

 

[Alhanna]

There is never been taken a relic before 14 30hr cet the past few days except, these who have been AC'd by albs.
:worthy:

I think the English word here is bollocks?

The point I was making is no real difference is to be made in my eyes at 4am 11am or 1pm on a weekday. Unless you can tell me the main percentage of people playing this game do not either work or goto some education the hours of real play is from 6pm until 1am.

Somewhere in that lot I may have lost the point but it has been along day for me and I need to leave the office.

 

[Kagato]

lol says the man with 'siege guide' in his sig

I wrote the guide because I was in a good position to do so, and because people making stupid mistakes during a siege was becoming very frustrating, at least in Albion back then.

Actually liking sieges did not come into it, but if I did not write it, who would?

 

[charmangle]

Or is it just me. Yes I am albion and no I do not AC (Could never get up that early to play games)

I just find the whole situation childish. Albion AC raid. Mids from what I have seen take them early in the morning before midday. And so we go round again. This whole thing leaves me and maybe others cold and bored of rvr and pushes to either leave or pve.

Flame me I can take it!

Yes, set up Irvr, have it for 3-4 days, retake (most preferably prime time, but in worst case retake in anytime so it doesnt get stale), then start over somewhere else.

Same with Relics, take it 18.00 cet-01.00 cet, hold it for a couple of days, then let it be retaken (or just get it back by ac, and dont take half of that realm at the same time), then wait a few days and enjoy some Irvr somewhere, then go for another prime time raid to start the cycle over again etc...

Thats the cycle I myself like for the zerg part of rvr.
The way it is looking now just makes Albs log just the same as Albs did towards Mids. Hopefully it will get better when Hibs got their relic back and Albs AC back their relics from Mids.

To the AC:ers...the complaints might be abit lessened if you just gave the AC:ing a rest a couple of days, give the Albs a chance to take it back during a MRE or something, then, if they cant muster enough people in 5-8 days, go AC it back to start the cycle over.

/Charmangle

 

[whitelights]

I think the English word here is bollocks?

The point I was making is no real difference is to be made in my eyes at 4am 11am or 1pm on a weekday. Unless you can tell me the main percentage of people playing this game do not either work or goto some education the hours of real play is from 6pm until 1am.

Somewhere in that lot I may have lost the point but it has been along day for me and I need to leave the office.

i only state a fact nothing more nothing less.

The personal habits of people who play a game like this can ofc not be the same for all of them,... i only think that u have to see the current situation in another light, this is not the normal activity of sieging by mids atleast not from our side (me and the people who currently do them).
There is a bit of a Pré history to it !
:worthy:

 

[Ucallme]

I think the best solution would be to either lock the Relic Gates at certain time e.g: 01:00am CET to 10:00am CET so no matter how many keeps you get the Relics will not open at all or Just up the number of guards and make them higher Level e.g: level 80 between 03:00am CET to 09:00am CET or something.

The above would ofcourse encourage more Prime Time raids and it would be good for the community.

Amphrax/Arauddry

 

[Javai]

I think the best solution would be to either lock the Relic Gates at certain time e.g: 01:00am CET to 10:00am CET so no matter how many keeps you get the Relics will not open at all or Just up the number of guards and make them higher Level e.g: level 80 between 03:00am CET to 09:00am CET or something.

The above would ofcourse encourage more Prime Time raids and it would be good for the community.

Amphrax/Arauddry

Whats to stop you taking all the keeps then sitting at relic gate wwaiting for doors to open at 10am?

 

[Flimgoblin]

It ain't a matter of relics alone, having port cut, irvr in your realm, must run from x point to y point etc bores the shit out of peeps.
The moreso for peeps who can play 2 hours and HAVE to invest 90% of their time to retake keeps pved in the middle of the night etc every other damn day that god sends down.
It just doesn't cut it if u understand me.

I think what Jav is saying is try and enjoy the keep retaking - doesn't help if you hate taking keeps though, or much prefer another kind of RvR. Boats to Agramon?