Antisocial behaviour....

Logann

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It may seem that sabre members are taking this a bit personally..and you would be right being as we are being accused of stupidity.
To our defence, we always look to our own realm before visting alb or midland and to be honest it was only a tower, which misty has pointed out, was re-claimed. But to be honest I dont see why I should be justifying the guilds actions on this forum when alot worse has happened in the past.
I did not see this sort of fuss when a keep was released to perpetuate insta RvR acces in hib.
We may not be up there with the leet guilds but we enjoy our gaming and like to have fun so leave us alone eh.
As far as I am concerned this is the last sabre will say on the matter

cheers
 

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are you all new to the game or just dumb?
 

ebenezer

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judas said:
are you all new to the game or just dumb?

And what do you want us to reply to that:p...such a leet but still intellegent answer to a post. I wonder if you think all your speach through as much.
 

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Robot said:
Experience? tell me, how much experience does Ilaya have? Thats what myself and others would like to know. Because i can tell you just now, he has jack shit. Experience comes from experiencing all parts of rvr and other parts of the game, but Illaya hasn't, he didn't play along side the best players in the realm constantly and beat the best in excal on a daily basis and learned new tactics from other good players. Illaya has been in a few guilds with no real good players, while guys like novamir and saadyst were in two good guilds.

where do i start on this one? lol!

what guilds have i been in dude? Minas Tirith.. they disbanded one day and HoF was born the next.. and erm...??????
 

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ilaya said:
where do i start on this one? lol!

what guilds have i been in dude? Minas Tirith.. they disbanded one day and HoF was born the next.. and erm...??????

all that did was prove robots point?
 

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no Aluvian. that was aimed at the Ilaya has been in a few guilds thing. i have been in HoF for QUITE some time now. i aint a guild jumper.

oh and if u Robot is gonna say i've NEVER played alongside some good players.. that means the following people are officially shit:

Boni, Toblerone, Angrysquirrel, Saadyst, Novamir, Tyka, Sheph, Vriszlar, Eleasias, Garbanoch, Domain, do i need to go on? i've played alongside everyone at one time or another. i remember going on a CBH princes raid in DF and seeing a green con heroine called Tankster.

get your fucking facts right

as for what experience do i have?

i've killed every damn mob in hib.
i've led a 21-strong guild alliance.. have you?
i make things for peeps at cheap prices with my 4, yes FOUR LEGENDARY crafters. i can make any piece of armour i want like that /clicks fingers
i offer help to new peeps thats why my chars are advisors.
i give stuff away to peeps. even stuff like Mad Tales 2/3 (and if u want evidence of this ask Cueblare from CLA)
i've been involved on more than 500 keeps takes, probably more defenses
been on just about every relic raid hib has ever done
been one of the first on scene everytime a relic was under attack

u cant buy that shit on ebay
 

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ilaya said:
no Aluvian. that was aimed at the Ilaya has been in a few guilds thing. i have been in HoF for QUITE some time now. i aint a guild jumper.
- i appreciate that english may not be your main language but he wasnt saying you jump guilds at all, that was clear from the tone of his typing

oh and if u Robot is gonna say i've NEVER played alongside some good players.. that means the following people are officially shit:

Boni, Toblerone, Angrysquirrel, Saadyst, Novamir, Tyka, Sheph, Vriszlar, Eleasias, Garbanoch, Domain, do i need to go on? i've played alongside everyone at one time or another. i remember going on a CBH princes raid in DF and seeing a green con heroine called Tankster.
Im sure ive grouped with 90% of hib in my time, that doesnt constitute playing alongside them, in the capacity that robot is talking about, i would consider playing alongside someone playing with them many times in RVR, not pve.

get your fucking facts right
nothing which you have said is FACT, it is all a matter of opinion and perception.

i've killed every damn mob in hib.
Ok, join the club

i've led a 21-strong guild alliance.. have you?
Nope, thank god, thats not my thing, major kudos for doing it though

i make things for peeps at cheap prices with my 4, yes FOUR LEGENDARY crafters. i can make any piece of armour i want like that /clicks fingers

What does this have to do with pvp? and no offense, any idiot can make 4 lgm crafters in a week with macros.

i offer help to new peeps thats why my chars are advisors.
Ok, great, dunno what that has to do with the topic though

i give stuff away to peeps. even stuff like Mad Tales 2/3 (and if u want evidence of this ask Cueblare from CLA)
see above

i've been involved on more than 500 keeps takes, probably more defenses
Good going, i personally dont love keep raids, relic raids ive never missed since i started playing though

been one of the first on scene everytime a relic was under attack

I would expect no less, every hib should be there the second a relic is under attack.

u cant buy that shit on ebay
aye, but u can but essay writing from many sites :)
 

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Fluid said:
- i appreciate that english may not be your main language but he wasnt saying you jump guilds at all, that was clear from the tone of his typing

Im sure ive grouped with 90% of hib in my time, that doesnt constitute playing alongside them, in the capacity that robot is talking about, i would consider playing alongside someone playing with them many times in RVR, not pve.

nothing which you have said is FACT, it is all a matter of opinion and perception.

Ok, join the club

Nope, thank god, thats not my thing, major kudos for doing it though



What does this have to do with pvp? and no offense, any idiot can make 4 lgm crafters in a week with macros.

Ok, great, dunno what that has to do with the topic though

see above

Good going, i personally dont love keep raids, relic raids ive never missed since i started playing though



I would expect no less, every hib should be there the second a relic is under attack.

aye, but u can but essay writing from many sites :)


tbh dude, you write a load of shit. The original post was trying to make out how much of a dick Ilaya is. It was not RvR nor PvE related, it was about the person behind the character. It had reference to his attitude to RvR. He was defending himself by clearly stating what he does for his realm, not selfish acts for himself.

Giving items away, not charging 10p mp items that cost 1p to make, defending the realm.

All you do by writing this crap is purposly wind him up, make him angry, and cause him lash out. You would do the same if titweeds did the same to you and they knew nothing about you.

Gonna accuse me of being a bad person now? Cuz i was abusive to you, like you were abusive to Ilaya? Like most here were abusive to Ilaya.

Give the guy a break. While most of you are running around in your opted grp's, roaming, letting your realm go tits up, you can be sure Ilaya will sit bored shitless, in a tower, with a treb, and put a hole in a keep. I should know, i was sitting there bored with him.

I don't really care if you would "be there if relics are under attack". Maybe you shouldn't let it get that way in the first place? Get your opted grp, buy a ram, take a hib tower back, claim it if you can, go back to roaming. Takes a hole 10 minutes of your time to bash down a tower door (that's level 10 with a war ram.)
 

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RandomDotCom said:
tbh dude, you write a load of shit. The original post was trying to make out how much of a dick Ilaya is. It was not RvR nor PvE related, it was about the person behind the character. It had reference to his attitude to RvR. He was defending himself by clearly stating what he does for his realm, not selfish acts for himself.

Giving items away, not charging 10p mp items that cost 1p to make, defending the realm.

All you do by writing this crap is purposly wind him up, make him angry, and cause him lash out. You would do the same if titweeds did the same to you and they knew nothing about you.

Gonna accuse me of being a bad person now? Cuz i was abusive to you, like you were abusive to Ilaya? Like most here were abusive to Ilaya.

Give the guy a break. While most of you are running around in your opted grp's, roaming, letting your realm go tits up, you can be sure Ilaya will sit bored shitless, in a tower, with a treb, and put a hole in a keep. I should know, i was sitting there bored with him.

I don't really care if you would "be there if relics are under attack". Maybe you shouldn't let it get that way in the first place? Get your opted grp, buy a ram, take a hib tower back, claim it if you can, go back to roaming. Takes a hole 10 minutes of your time to bash down a tower door (that's level 10 with a war ram.)

im sorry if you dont understand my post, but it has very very little to do with the original post, this thread (as most) has gone off topic, it is merely to do with the post illya made in reply to robot.

As for me "talking shit" please please, read the context of what i replied to, it had absoloutly NOTHING to do with the majority of arguments you base your reply on.

Id reply in more detail if id ever heard of you in my daoc life (oh look we can both make suggestive comments!) speak to you soon.

love fluid
 

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Fluid said:
im sorry if you dont understand my post, but it has very very little to do with the original post, this thread (as most) has gone off topic, it is merely to do with the post illya made in reply to robot.

As for me "talking shit" please please, read the context of what i replied to, it had absoloutly NOTHING to do with the majority of arguments you base your reply on.

Id reply in more detail if id ever heard of you in my daoc life (oh look we can both make suggestive comments!) speak to you soon.

love fluid

i love to make useless arguments for people too see, sorry if you were at the wrong end of the stick.

You probably don't know me in game as i don't really have a guild, nor do i stand in dl screaming lfg for hours :) i just go out there and do what needs to be done, doesn't bother me if i get run over by a zerg etc, just go out and enjoy yourself (in my case this is normally solo/duo with a friend)
 

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ilaya said:
oh and if u Robot is gonna say i've NEVER played alongside some good players.. that means the following people are officially shit:

Boni, Toblerone, Angrysquirrel, Saadyst, Novamir, Tyka, Sheph, Vriszlar, Eleasias, Garbanoch, Domain, do i need to go on? i've played alongside everyone at one time or another. i remember going on a CBH princes raid in DF and seeing a green con heroine called Tankster.

get your fucking facts right

Ok when i mentioned earlier regarding grouping with good players Sputnik i meant that you NEVER played alongside good players when you were RvRing and not PvEing. Maybe when you were doing some ML's? or something similar pve orientated? you may have grouped with the guys above, but i find it very hard to believe that any of these guys would invite a weak champ into their group... Plus the fact that you have always acted like some spoilt little child with no sense of respect or gratitude towards your fellow realm mates.

In my post i did not state that i myself were any leader or such, but i was always there to help assist people and always respected others. This thread at the end of the day was created in retaliation to your spiteful behaviour towards other people not me. Yes i added in my 2 cents and i didn't mix my words and got straight to the point. I didn't like you and many of the people i knew thought likewise and the people i spoke of that held you in such low regard told me the exact same things i thought about you, in that you acted like some 8 year old kid who was arrogant, stupid, bad mannered, obnoxious and down right sickening behaviour.

So if you wish to become some sort of leader in the future, don't act like some asshole from the Third Reich, as this aint gonna get you much friends or support when your trying to lead raids.

Oh and the remark about ebay, i have never had to buy anything off ebay for daoc or any other online game for that matter. Since I started playing online games from the days of UO 7 years ago i could never resort to doing such a thing as i have always made sure that i gain the items and equipment and stature i need in game through my own means, thus giving myself the satisfaction that i have accomplished this myself.
 

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ebay remark wasnt aimed at u

and as for the other shit. no, not pve or ml.. rvr dude. been there done it.
 

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since you don't know the dude i think you should stop posting crap. And since this is your signiture:
Robot said:
Autokarma - 60 Orc Shaman - WoW EU Stormscale

* Ex UO player & Soon out of retirement DAOC player*
i refuse to talk to you
 

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RandomDotCom said:
since you don't know the dude i think you should stop posting crap.

If i didn't know him at all i wouldnt have bothered posting.

RandomDotCom said:
i refuse to talk to you

Ouch that hurts so much.......gotta write this into my memoirs, some dude i dont know on FH refuses to talk to me because of my signature, its clear he still attends party's for the Third Reich.
 

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RandomDotCom said:
I also know that CLA can be a little arrogant at times (no offence intended). Having large numbers, lots of 50's, people who have been playing a long time, lots of BP's and RPS doesn't always make you the best players.

i think you have mistaken cla for a leet guild we are atm a large number of mainly friends having a good time trying to learn how to rvr with many differnt rvr specs that is why we mainly run as gg, but we are not exclusive in any way we don't operate you must be lvl 50 toa'd ect ect we accept anyone who has the same attitude to the game as we have whether your lvl 5 or lvl 50.
that is why cla has lots of members we have a core of people who like to rvr but we have people who tend to grp with lower levels and do pve raids also.

so arrogant would not be a "title" i'd put on cla, different attitude to kiddie power gamers yes. if we are running one of our raids then yes it will be done our way, when we are on other peoples rais we do it their way.


so please don't tar us with your personal opinnion. its comments like that that can put of potential members off our guild to be swayed away rather than taking a try in our guild. people can always leave if they don't like it just has many people have because it's not maybe what they want from their game.
 

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I’m thinking that the endless discussion in this thread can be ended if people simply realise that no one plays the game exactly alike. People have personnal preferences and they usually stick by them. All we can do is not take everyone and everything for granted, take some consideration to the fellow realmmates. Some things though you can take for granted:
  • If you prefer running in a fg and fight fg vs fg fights, you will occasionally get added on by another fg or stealthers.
  • If you prefer killing everything you see on sight not caring wether a fellow player / fg is already fighting the target you just locked onto, you won’t be making friends with the “I prefer to play in a fg people”.
  • Leeching rps off of a zerg / fg won’t help you make loads of friends either.
So, be more considerate:
Don’t yell/scream/shout/curse when you occasionally get added on.
Check other areas so you won;t be adding on too much and annoy people.
If you need to leech… leech in a usefull way. Target those that threaten to kill / maim / wound the healers and low hp casters… be an assist more then a leech.

At least everybody can be nice to eachother :)

/end mushyness
 

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Asq said:
If you need to leech… leech in a usefull way. Target those that threaten to kill / maim / wound the healers and low hp casters… be an assist more then a leech.

To be honest that is the most annoying type of leech. They completely ruin the whole fight by interupting the support... Would much prefer a leech to target a main tank or something so they have less impact on the fight. Even better they could fuck off and find their own fights...
 

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Ballard said:
To be honest that is the most annoying type of leech. They completely ruin the whole fight by interupting the support... Would much prefer a leech to target a main tank or something so they have less impact on the fight. Even better they could fuck off and find their own fights...

heheh....and now we know which view you had:) :clap:
 

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Behmoth said:
playing fotm classes looking at your sig
so that i made a sorc when i started playing and a m8 begged me to play scout (witch i havnt touched since it dinged 50) make's me Fotm ?? then cool im teh fotm :clap:
 

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Behmoth said:
i think you have mistaken cla for a leet guild we are atm a large number of mainly friends having a good time trying to learn how to rvr with many differnt rvr specs that is why we mainly run as gg, but we are not exclusive in any way we don't operate you must be lvl 50 toa'd ect ect we accept anyone who has the same attitude to the game as we have whether your lvl 5 or lvl 50.
that is why cla has lots of members we have a core of people who like to rvr but we have people who tend to grp with lower levels and do pve raids also.

so arrogant would not be a "title" i'd put on cla, different attitude to kiddie power gamers yes. if we are running one of our raids then yes it will be done our way, when we are on other peoples rais we do it their way.


so please don't tar us with your personal opinnion. its comments like that that can put of potential members off our guild to be swayed away rather than taking a try in our guild. people can always leave if they don't like it just has many people have because it's not maybe what they want from their game.

well tbh i really couldn't care less about any individual guild. If 1 guild has the potentail (spl?) to log on 3-4fg at anyone time then that have too many players imo.

I would NEVER join a guild such as CLA simply because it has too many players. I'm sorry if this sways people from joining your precious almighty blah de blah etc guild. I care about the PERSON! not the guild the player is in. I prefer to make friends and keep them close, not just have friends because they are part of that guild.

I don't plan to join another guild ... why ? Cuz i end up leaving from personality clashes. I have my friends, and my friends have me, that's what matters. Not the size of a guild, not the number of 50's, not if you are toa, opted, classic, pve, crafter .. whatever ... i really couldn't give a shit about any of that. I'll quite happy grp with a 35 healing druid! why ? because s/he can heal! don't care if that person is a member of CLA, dem hibbies, terra dominus, guild sphere or whatever. All i care about it was people have to offer.

Congrats on having one of the largest guilds in the server. I'm sure it must make you very proud. But you can't deny that you would prefer to run as a guild and not have randoms.

Sorry if this seems a bit harsh, and it probably is, but i'm having a really bad day
 

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RandomDotCom said:
well tbh i really couldn't care less about any individual guild. If 1 guild has the potentail (spl?) to log on 3-4fg at anyone time then that have too many players imo.

I would NEVER join a guild such as CLA simply because it has too many players. I'm sorry if this sways people from joining your precious almighty blah de blah etc guild. I care about the PERSON! not the guild the player is in. I prefer to make friends and keep them close, not just have friends because they are part of that guild.

I don't plan to join another guild ... why ? Cuz i end up leaving from personality clashes. I have my friends, and my friends have me, that's what matters. Not the size of a guild, not the number of 50's, not if you are toa, opted, classic, pve, crafter .. whatever ... i really couldn't give a shit about any of that. I'll quite happy grp with a 35 healing druid! why ? because s/he can heal! don't care if that person is a member of CLA, dem hibbies, terra dominus, guild sphere or whatever. All i care about it was people have to offer.

Congrats on having one of the largest guilds in the server. I'm sure it must make you very proud. But you can't deny that you would prefer to run as a guild and not have randoms.

Sorry if this seems a bit harsh, and it probably is, but i'm having a really bad day


Wert my friend. I dont know what clashes you had with cla members of the past:)?
But you and i have grouped some even duoed a couple of times and had fun, thought we died horribly and kept laughing. Do you think im leet:p?
I can guarantee that many of the cla members i call my friends are not:))
They played long but are still noobs just like me hehe. And i agree.....i stayed friend with Linaz/saulius/hirop as long as i have played this game though he was in different guilds all up until now:)
But still a guild is usefull to have around you when you need help and all the closer friends are not there. Yes Cla is big and most of the time i dont meet half the people in game:p But still the ones i do know from there are nice guys that i call my friends....
 

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RandomDotCom said:
well tbh i really couldn't care less about any individual guild. If 1 guild has the potentail (spl?) to log on 3-4fg at anyone time then that have too many players imo.

I would NEVER join a guild such as CLA simply because it has too many players. I'm sorry if this sways people from joining your precious almighty blah de blah etc guild. I care about the PERSON! not the guild the player is in. I prefer to make friends and keep them close, not just have friends because they are part of that guild.

I don't plan to join another guild ... why ? Cuz i end up leaving from personality clashes. I have my friends, and my friends have me, that's what matters. Not the size of a guild, not the number of 50's, not if you are toa, opted, classic, pve, crafter .. whatever ... i really couldn't give a shit about any of that. I'll quite happy grp with a 35 healing druid! why ? because s/he can heal! don't care if that person is a member of CLA, dem hibbies, terra dominus, guild sphere or whatever. All i care about it was people have to offer.

I admit I don't know all CLA members, but the ones I do know are really nice people and always available to help out non-guilded players with artfacts etc.

On more than one occasion i have been checking out an artifact that i was after, found a CLA group ready to do the encounter and on all these occasions invited me to join for the credit if I asked.

RandomDotCom said:
Congrats on having one of the largest guilds in the server. I'm sure it must make you very proud. But you can't deny that you would prefer to run as a guild and not have randoms.

Sorry if this seems a bit harsh, and it probably is, but i'm having a really bad day

I have yet to meet a guild who would rather group with random players than their own guild mates, that after all is the point of a guild, to play together and have fun together....isn't it?
 

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bah i thought this was a flame me thread not flame CLA! booooo! nasty CLA hijacking my thread! hehe

leave CLA alone.. im the object of hate atm ;)

oh btw.. next time i suggest flattening a behnn tower so albs are all exposed.. might be an idea to do it eh?

grats albs :)
 

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well since the quote that was used to flame me was very editted i will clear it up.

I did say that i am friends with many CLA members, but like ALL guilds (yes ALL) there are some bad people. It is an nevitable part of ANY guild ...

btw ebenezer ... can you cross bg (like cross guard) cuz my bm almost has bg, would be funny to run a cross bg duo LOL

and tallen, all guilds would PREFER to run as a guild, as they all know each others strengths and weaknesses. yes CLA do invite randoms. I know, i have been grp'd with them on numerous occasions.
 

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1st may i say no it wasn't edited very well it was edited as there was too much stuff in there that didn't concern my post.
wert you typed in "cla can be arrogant at times" which to me is the whole guild and not individuals in the guild, so you are attacking all of cla thats why i said what i said. it may have been wrote wrongly by yourself meaning something completely different but that is the way mis-quotes can be construde.

so lets have no more of this and all attack :twak: ilaya again :p jk
 

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RandomDotCom said:
I did say that i am friends with many CLA members, but like ALL guilds (yes ALL) there are some bad people. It is an nevitable part of ANY guild ...

not true ;)
 

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Vodkafairy said:
Pfff... look who's the exeption to his own rule :twak:

/failed attempt at bending attention to Vf instead of Ila :)
 

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