Advice Another I need a new PC thread 'ahh!'

[Gwadien]

Changed my mind, after speaking to @BloodOmen, think I'll go for this now;
http://i.imgur.com/6yYj6II.jpg

With the intention of getting a better graphics card and a SDD in 2 years or so, meaning I can progressively upgrade my PC over time, rather than having to buy an entire PC new every few years.

 

[Litmus]

Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail£191.99
(£159.99)£191.99
(£159.99)

MSI Radeon R9 270X Gaming Edition OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card£149.99
(£124.99)£149.99
(£124.99)

Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)


Something like that should be the basic's imo... if your not going to overclock, get the none K version of the cpu. saves another £30.

AMD are so far behind in the cpu game its like Brazil vs Andorra in football

 

[Gwadien]

AMD are so far behind in the cpu game its like Brazil vs Andorra in football

Cue @BloodOmen

 

[Gwadien]

I think I'm going to buy £700 worth of RAM, that seems to be the simple part.

 

[Litmus]

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7wFKewAbgs


Just watch the conclusion around the 35min mark.. key words "avoid like the bubonic plague"

 

[BloodOmen]

Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail£191.99
(£159.99)£191.99
(£159.99)

MSI Radeon R9 270X Gaming Edition OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card£149.99
(£124.99)£149.99
(£124.99)

Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)


Something like that should be the basic's imo... if your not going to overclock, get the none K version of the cpu. saves another £30.

AMD are so far behind in the cpu game its like Brazil vs Andorra in football

8350 still beats 4670

 

[Litmus]

Depends what you want it for, maybe for pure number crunching like rendering and shit maybe.. but

http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=855

 

[Gwadien]

Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail£191.99
(£159.99)£191.99
(£159.99)

MSI Radeon R9 270X Gaming Edition OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card£149.99
(£124.99)£149.99
(£124.99)

Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)


Something like that should be the basic's imo... if your not going to overclock, get the none K version of the cpu. saves another £30.

AMD are so far behind in the cpu game its like Brazil vs Andorra in football

There was a bundle for sale on Overclockers or something where they over clocked the 4670k for you for like £30, reckon that's worth it?

(I'm still looking around, and probably will be until after the new year, so if people can reply here if they see any amazing bundles, would be appreciated)

 

[Litmus]

depends if your interesting in overclocking.. some people just pure and simple wont. If you do want to overclock you'll need a custom cooler too to make it worth while.

 

[Litmus]

did just see this though..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE#t=70


so kinda dunno, i'd go intel anyway.. but thats just me


http://www.scan.co.uk/todayonly/index.aspx some good bundles on there too if you can build your own

 

[TdC]

hmmm after watching a bunch of those vids I'm inclined to experiment:

AMD FX-8350 4.00GHz 8MB AM3+ Box
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 AMD 990X, SATA600 RAID
Corsair Water Koeler Hydro H100i AMD & Intel
Crucial 2x8GB, DDR3, PC12800, CL9, Ballistix Sport

the above list is doable for about 530 euros or 443 GBP. I would reuse my current GFX, SSDs, case and perifs. Tempted to go for a gaming rig, but no. I'll have to get the paper first

 

[BloodOmen]

hmmm after watching a bunch of those vids I'm inclined to experiment:

AMD FX-8350 4.00GHz 8MB AM3+ Box
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 AMD 990X, SATA600 RAID
Corsair Water Koeler Hydro H100i AMD & Intel
Crucial 2x8GB, DDR3, PC12800, CL9, Ballistix Sport

the above list is doable for about 530 euros or 443 GBP. I would reuse my current GFX, SSDs, case and perifs. Tempted to go for a gaming rig, but no. I'll have to get the paper first

AMD are starting to get better these days, power consumption is still higher than Intel so expect your electricity bills to be higher but between the FX-8350 and the FX-9590 AMD are starting to be on par with Intel, even some Intel enthusiasts agree than the FX-9590 is an amazing CPU.

I'm getting an FX-9590 in jan/feb - going from an I7 2700k (which by all accounts is still nice but it is starting to show its age now on newer games, bottle necks are popping up)

 

[MYstIC G]

i5 3570K if you want this box to hold on for 3 more years. The "K" means that the multiplier is unlocked, allowing you to go close to 4 Ghz on air cooling. No point in going for Haswells when the performance buff they offer is only between 10-15%. There is no app or game today that will push a 3570K above its limit. The i7 is for people who don't understand that they're not really using their CPU, they're only paying for "HAH, BIGGER IS BETTER" - which is oh so wrong.

Mobo wise, have a look at mobos with Z77 chipset, features are up to you (whether you need more than 2 Sata III ports, audio chipset, gbit lan, etc etc)

RAM wise, you need to go with a minimum of 1600 mhz speed sticks, with CL9 or less. Corsair covers this very well.

I can't believe all you mofos are recommending nvidia GPUs, while HD7950 is the best bang for the buck on the market. You could upsize to HD7970 from Sapphire, with Vapor-X cooling (trust me, you do want Vapor-X, regardless if you OC or not - it's bloody silent).

Anything else is relative and down to personal preference.

Dixit.

There's no game today that pushes my quad core q6600 to the limits. My build has lasted 5 years, you want to go heavy CPU, heavy RAM, just behind the curve GPU imho. Only the GPU ever gave out.

 

[TdC]

so expect your electricity bills to be higher

blah. dude did the math: he's up 27 dollah in three years all things considered. even though the power in the liberal socialist paradise that is the NL is vastly more expensive than in the US I think I can swing it.

 

[MYstIC G]

Scan today only has a good balance for £550 notes

• 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Basic SSD SATA 6Gb/s 7mm Slim 3-core MEX Controller Read 540MB/s, Write 520MB/s, 512MB, 97K IOPS
• 2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200.14 SATA 3 6GB/s 7200rpm 64MB Cache 8ms OEM NCQ
• 500W (600W Peak) Silverstone ST50F-ES Strider PSU Silent 120mm Fan, 80 PLUS ATX 12V 2.3 24x7 Use Ready! OEM
• 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Value Select DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.5V
• Cooler Master Elite 361 Black Mini Tower/Desktop Performance Case w/o PSU ATX /uATX
• Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3, Intel Z87, S 1150, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, SATA RAID, PCIe 3.0 (x16), D-Sub (VGA) DVI-D HDMI, ATX
• Intel Core i5 4670K, S 1150, Haswell, Quad Core, 3.4GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo, 1200MHz GPU, 34x Ratio, 84W, Retail

 

[TdC]

not bad: they throw an SSD, a 2TB disk, a PSU and a case in over my list for only about 100 notes. Half my ram though, but not that anyone will care.

 

[MYstIC G]

It's not a bad starter, it's only missing a GPU and it'll work out of the box without one anyway. The PSU is the only "meh" part of the kit but as long as you don't put a beast GPU in there it should hold up.

 

[Litmus]

Yea i seen that bundle on scan too... looks very good apart from the PSU which kinda kills it limits the overclock and gpu options to much

 

[Jupitus]

I would definitely say for the sake of 100 quid or so do NOT leave out an SSD for your OS to sit on....

 

[Gwadien]

After much conversation and research, and unless there's a stupidly good January sales on PCs, I'm either gonna go for this http://3xs.scan.co.uk/configurator/g31i w/o a SDD, or find a similar system which hasn't got a overclocked CPU/GPU and get a SDD, for the same price, whaddya think of the build, and the two options?

 

[BloodOmen]

Looks good, should server you well.

 

[MYstIC G]

Personally I'd drop the overclock and bump the RAM if you're not getting an SSD. A good choice though.

 

[Gwadien]

Personally I'd drop the overclock and bump the RAM if you're not getting an SSD. A good choice though.

I heard 8 was enough?

 

[BloodOmen]

I heard 8 was enough?

it is, no game will use more than 8 gig - 16 gig for multiple game instances perhaps or programming etc but 8gig will be enough otherwise.

 

[MYstIC G]

It is but with a 64bit is that can make use of it it'll help extend the longevity of the system, as will not bothering with the overclock.

 

[Jupitus]

No SSD ???

 

[Gwadien]

This is the alternative option w/ SDD http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-366-OE&groupid=43&catid=2475&subcat=2602 & Nvidia 760 instead of the default.

 

[Scouse]

This is the alternative option w/ SDD http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-366-OE&groupid=43&catid=2475&subcat=2602 & Nvidia 760 instead of the default.

Win.

Now fucking buy it