All time low for Alb

AmeinoN

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well m8 you cannot call a serius grp who doesnt want to get killed withought fight elitist :/.Best way i think is to type /rel after 3-5secs and if you are a soloer make a macro with /rel and place it at 1st qb.
 

Moona

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On the other side , when i die in RvR , alot of peeps pm me ( yes even clerics, elites,noobs , ect) : Where? where?where?

well next time i need a rezz when you ask questions like this when im dead.
And i 'll start to speak after the rezz...
Because dead peoples CANT speak :clap:
 

Belomar

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I was going to give you a lecture on the wonders of /releasing, but it seems others have already done my job for me, so I won't bother. :)
 

Belomar

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Heath said:
i am an armsman-totally unloved and unwanted in all groups, with no BB.
First of all, I am 100% certain you will get a space in SS guild groups, armsman or not. Secondly, Armsmen, like many other "unwanted" classes, got a boost by getting access to the Battlemaster MA path--having ML8 Bodyguard will make you much more desirable in all groups. And thirdly, from what I remember, you do have a BB, it's just that you haven't bothered to exp it? ;)
 

Heath

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Belomar said:
First of all, I am 100% certain you will get a space in SS guild groups, armsman or not. Secondly, Armsmen, like many other "unwanted" classes, got a boost by getting access to the Battlemaster MA path--having ML8 Bodyguard will make you much more desirable in all groups. And thirdly, from what I remember, you do have a BB, it's just that you haven't bothered to exp it? ;)

(o: ...well, getting a guild group is no probs cos we have the "take anybody" approach, thank god. I suppose i could pull my finger out and get my ML5 done too. My ickle BB, bless her...only lvl 26 at the mo..i do start to exp her but after a few hours i get bored and sack it )o: ....such little patience nowadays !!
 

Painbringer

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I don't have the patience to PL my bb either Heath hehe i might transfer my cleric on main acc to bb acc instead. Personally imo there is no excuse not to rez fellow realm mates, any decent cleric would have some form of mana regen (serenity, MCL etc...) and releasing is not faster for someone with no BB. Imo RvR = Realm vs Realm, not 8v8, if u like 8v8 fights then Camlann is better suited to you, but then none of this matters when NF comes coz when u release in RvR in NF you get released to atk rather than bind stone :cheers:
 

Gorre

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Painbringer said:
I don't have the patience to PL my bb either Heath hehe i might transfer my cleric on main acc to bb acc instead. Personally imo there is no excuse not to rez fellow realm mates, any decent cleric would have some form of mana regen (serenity, MCL etc...) and releasing is not faster for someone with no BB. Imo RvR = Realm vs Realm, not 8v8, if u like 8v8 fights then Camlann is better suited to you, but then none of this matters when NF comes coz when u release in RvR in NF you get released to atk rather than bind stone :cheers:
id gladly blow RP alsoo to res a 2H pally :)
 

Painbringer

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2h pallies are fotm on US servers since they got NF fyi, don't knock what you don't know
 

Antedeluvian

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Paladins can ress too, they regain power faster because lower power pool, the leet pple refuses pally's resses if there are clerics alive (and if no clerics alive they lost the fight anyway) so pallys doesnt need the 100% pow almost never and if a pally becomes oop using end chant he deserve to die because he's a noob.

My point..... the pally who doesnt ress ppl (2 secs) if he's at 100% pow not only is a lamer but he's losing rps (not a lot but hey, all arpees are good). :p
 

Antedeluvian

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[NO]Subedai said:
ok, so they res u, they then fight next grp with 1 cleric on 50% power, not a good idea. just release and port bak, u also know that 1/2 the time they are afk.

Why pple assume always that is the cleric who need to ress? i never ress other pple out of my group whit my cleric, that can (and WILL) kill my group in next fight, but when i play my pally i usually do (if my group stopped etc), it "waste" 2 secs and a 50% pow i wont ever need anyway.

If you find a caster group whit no pally dont expect ress, but i really cant understand why a pally cant spare a getho ress :m00:
 

Gorre

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Painbringer said:
2h pallies are fotm on US servers since they got NF fyi, don't knock what you don't know
DPS between 2Hpally and s/s is nearly the same
also you lose anytime stun and guard(unlike BG it can block arrows from fotm archerclasses in nF)

cant really understand whats so fotm about it, i find it a rather selfish spec
 

Painbringer

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2h pally dps is approx 35% greater than 1h pally dps, 1h = 100%, 2h = 10% greater than 1h + 0.5% per 2h skill lvl so with 50 2h it gives a base dps of 135% fyi then that is modified by stats, weap speed etc... so you couldnt be more wrong, also when NF comes there will be alot of long range fights and caster grps will be fotm and parry/block is less effective in RvR than in PvE so being able to guard is gonna be useless when the person you are blocking is getting nuked. 2h pallys can spam styles constantly just as well as a shield pally and also have long duration stuns and what do 1h pallies have when their shield is effectively nerfed? piss poor damage and end chant, effectively all you will be is an end bot where at least a 2h pala can kill an enemy caster in 2-3 hits and spam high dmg stun styles that use alot less end. Nothing selfish about being 2h spec either, just they are alot more fun to play than a boring block/end bot :twak:
 

Thorwyn

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The nasty man could reply with "Nothing selfish about not rezzzing other people at amg. Healing your group with your Cleric is more fun than playing a rez bot". :)
 

Painbringer

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Yes I'm for real, also i have 7 points in shield so archers arent a prob coz i have engage and if i ever need an anytime stun i just use grapple ML ability and let the casters do their thing ;)
 

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Painbringer said:
Nothing selfish about being 2h spec either, just they are alot more fun to play than a boring block/end bot :twak:
I think all Clerics should respec Smite, they are a lot more fun to play than a boring healbot.
 

kirennia

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For the sake of argument and those who don't know:

100% res costs the same amount of mana as 10%, 50% or whatever; half a bar. Using MCL after ressing someone of which majority of clerics should have MCL2 will mean that instead of loosing 50% of power, you've lost 70% of power next fight. Using RP of course is even worse cause very often in fights, RP > MCL for combat timer reasons.

I'd say about 80% or more fights which I'm involved in require me to use some sort of power charge, whether that be MCL or RP and of course some even require me to use both. The problem then arises when your group dies because you have no power because you ressed a soloer a couple hundred metres back. Therefore unless I know that the area is clear and going to be clear for next couple of minutes, I simply can't res solo stealthers who will be ok because they'd just stealth off as our group is dying due to me not having the power to heal them. Or on the otherhand, leech as many do.


In short, if the area is clear I'll res, if it aint, I'm not gonna get the group killed because of ressing :p Seems fair enough to me.
 

Asha

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damn you clerics! don't you know that you're playing for the pleasure of random stealther #23543432??? Didn't you read items 12 paragraph 3 in your "Ye Olde Guide to being a Cleric" that was provided to you at level 5? It states:

If thou shalt find thynself fluffing about Emain Macha or Odins Gate, and thou comest acrossed a brother of Albion who hast ceasted to liveth, thou art obligated to rez said soloest brethern to 100% health so that he might skulk backeth to his noble buffzor botteth without danger to his precious life.

Those that chose to solo on a non-stealth class are to be treated with especial care, as for is well known, they are only soloing in Emain/Odins FOR ALBION & King Arthur!!!!!11
 

Darksadness

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OMG he he ehe h

This thread is becoming to be great fun nice post there ;-))))))))))))) :clap: :clap: :clap:
 

Formash

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Asha said:
damn you clerics! don't you know that you're playing for the pleasure of random stealther #23543432??? Didn't you read items 12 paragraph 3 in your "Ye Olde Guide to being a Cleric" that was provided to you at level 5? It states:

If thou shalt find thynself fluffing about Emain Macha or Odins Gate, and thou comest acrossed a brother of Albion who hast ceasted to liveth, thou art obligated to rez said soloest brethern to 100% health so that he might skulk backeth to his noble buffzor botteth without danger to his precious life.

Those that chose to solo on a non-stealth class are to be treated with especial care, as for is well known, they are only soloing in Emain/Odins FOR ALBION & King Arthur!!!!!11

Just took a look at your clicky's - one looks mouldy - the other looks like a descendant of Mr Spock... Nice one ;)

What game is that?
 

Derik

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Ok, we get it already. Clerics need their power for the next battle so they can't afford to rez out of group people.

How about if paladins (and maybe friars, if they are still used by elite groups) do the ressing?. Assuming they ask nicely and the area is clear (leeching bastards notwithstanding). :)
 

Gordonax

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Belomar said:
I think all Clerics should respec Smite, they are a lot more fun to play than a boring healbot.

You haven't met half the clerics in HG, have you? :)
 

scorge

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Iwill rez anyone if my group is not moving, and i think i have enough power. The group comes first then guildies then others.


But talking about rezzing, i remember the old days of Xping on salisbury, when you got constantly spamed for rezz. And when you finally trecked all over salisbury plain to rez them, a passing pally had done it and then forgot to tell you.

I quickly becames a friend of /anon


One of these days i am going to go back to Broken bridge and smite those damn skellies to dust...
 

OrreBorre

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Ego said:
This might have been a <synergy> group, since we were flamed ingame more than once by people for not rezzing.

Our part of the story is: Rezzing costs 50% power and standing still in front of a milegate is just suicidal. Hordes of enemies pass by milegates so it's a certain death when you start rezzing people there.

Furthermore; Most people got a buffbot, i wouldn't even want to be rezzed at amg,mmg or hmg because you will die on way back to your buffbot anyway. So waste of a 10 minutes I think.

Our Cleric-part of the story is: Even when still themselves are in full battle they get spammed by ppl with 'rezzzzzzzzzz' or 'rez me !!!'. And when they do rezz after battle, a simple 'thank you' seems to be too much for the ppl who were rezzed.



This is why we, in our guild, agreed on not rezzing anymore. Call it arrogant or elitest, we don't care. It saves us from death and alot of frustration.

See, if this was emain I would have understood your arguements but odins? Or if you didn't see the person, but if the guy pm you and ask for rezz ???Get your head out of your arse and be nice for once, you're not as elite as you think.
 

Red HATred

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main problem :

ppl always moan at clerics, no matter what spec or guild they are in...
Why don't the moaners play one themselves?
I takes a lot of courage to play a cleric since :
1) a cleric is never good enough according to his group mates
2) a cleric always has to think off all, while the other just think off their damage dealing
3) a cleric has to keep his whole realm running...
4) a cleric has to live with the fact that he is the least respected player out there and the PET of the group.. ready to be flamed at, ready to be ignored etc..

so a cleric has a lot to deal with...
a lot off responcabilities.
No cleric is perfect.. all make mistakes and not rezzing someone could have had his reasons..don't nagg if you are not ressed ... just release, it was your choise to play solo and not in a group with a cleric.. the cleric's main responcability is making judgement calls to keep his group alife for starters.
it doesn't have anything to do wit not beeing willing to ress.. just making choises
 

Chopke

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If I pass there with my pally, you can be sure I'll rezz you. No other way for me to get RP's :p since even a healer can pwn my lovely *ss...

;)
 

stickyplaster

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Hi m8 Guards of Avalon clerics and me in particular I always stop to rez a dead alb......besides its 130 ish rp's plus
 

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