Albion groupsetup FOTM ??!?!1!?

[Aussie]

But since you got so much more experience than i do, its kinda scary i dont see it in emain.

Do you have any idea what the impact is of that 'shity-we-never-use-it' insta mez on castergroups without GP. Even if its only 10 secs. the battle is already decided from the first mili sec after you pressed that button.You can't even keep xana and/or dys alive when you get mezzed first. you should know better. Your group setup is almost as funny as the reason why Zang uses spirit weapons xD

 

[Krane]

I always loved when NP players tried to teach everyone on the server how to play..

Especially when its one of the wannabees like tiny..

Hell u were a noname healer until you joined NP and now u think you are the gift of excalibur and suddenly start to lecture the whole of albion?

Gimme a break...

 

[Jiggs]

i really think albion is in the sh*t for the forseeable future, whichever way you fill your group you always come up short in some department.

its a shame because in pre-toa alb groups really held their own with sos/bof up.

 

[Elyand]

hmm..

i see 2 retards here... hihi... albs die they qq, some1 comes up with ideas they qq... aussie and krane for presidents with all their experience...

 

[Aussie]

 

[Skilgannon]

Don't think anyone can truly say what will be a good setup for New Frontiers. Sanya clearly stated there were class changes aimed for 1.70, but as they are already on G it is getting a bit late.

The other aspect is that I feel NF will change the way people think about RvR. Up to now, each Realm has had it's optimul setups and the game overall has had a theme. First stealthers, then casters, then melee. I believe (and certainly hope) that NF will bring the need for flexibility and that there won't be 1 setup for each Realm.

The pool system looks like it will give serious rewards, and groups won't want to miss out on that. Greed prevails and I feel most people will gravitate to where the reward/action is, and flexible groups with a balance of ranged/melee should be good. I think classes such as Thanes, Valewalkers and Reavers will come to the fore.

Only played around a bit in NF but intend to spend a fair bit of time there this weekend. From what I have seen even those who normally eschew keep warfare should be drawn to it. It looks like its gonna be fun but I guess time will tell. At least we get the reasonably tested version.

 

[Krane]

i see 2 retards here... hihi... albs die they qq, some1 comes up with ideas they qq... aussie and krane for presidents with all their experience...

"ok"

 

[Filip]

I have been doing my thinking and came up with this (c/p from our guild forum) ...

any comments on those ? (you know the nice constructive comments)
remember they are meant as general guidelines how to make a char usefull in guild groups ... not fixed we only play with our 7 freinds kind of groups


Melee group:

Merc: Banelord/battelmaster8

Merc/reaver: Banelord/battelmaster8

Pally:Battlemaster8

Theurg: + power% & + Range %

Minser: SoM,GoV (soujner for zephyr)

Mind sorc: +castspeed %

Cleric: Perfector ml5+

Cleric: Perfector ml5+


Ice wizz group


Ice wizz: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Ice wizz: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Shield guy:battelmaster8

Mind sorc:+castspeed%+spell dur%

Bodysorc/ice wizz: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Theurg: + power% & + Range %

Cleric: Perfector ml5+

Cleric: Perfector ml5+


Nuker Group:

Bodysorc: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Bodysorc: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Spirit caby: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Spirit caby/body sorc: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Mind sorc: +Castspeed% +Spelldur%

Theurg: + power% & + Range %

Cleric erfector ml5+

Cleric: Perfector ml5+


And about the reaver ... i think reaver's will continue to grow in power with toa and NF ....

imho they are tanks which gets a lot better when the player get better .. noob reaver is worse than a noob merc ..

allso they got the only 1500 range instant in alb .. so they are good drivers in the hands of a fast player..

allso with toa the slam/levi combo rox so much becuase of increased melee speed (lots of levi's during slam) like the AE/singel stun is so much more powerfull when you got 25% cast speed

but give comments about the groups plz .. good comments

Filip
Theurg in HB

 

[Vasconcelos]

Still thinking about...


Where the fuck is the spot to fill a buff shearer cleric with 1.70!!!


Give alb groups with 9 spots

 

[Parlain]

it's a nice idea tiny, but I think you're totally underestimating how bad it is to be a tank w/o det

I admit I am a crap reaver, but I still think you end up rooted/mezzed/stunned far too much.

In frontiers reavers look good.
I have a group idea for frontiers that doesn't include mercs or reavers
no one likes it tho

Spend enough time playing Pala and generally you learn how to avoid cc enough for to ensure your Reaver annoys the fook out of people ^^

 

[vintervargen]

lets se.. ministrels are overpowered, so we need at least 3 of them..
then some sorc cause no grp can be without amnesia..
and some healers
mercs are overpowered too so one of those.. oh and a theurgist too

so

2 clerics
sorc
merc
theurg
mincer
mincer
mincer

 

[Tinyheals]

I always loved when NP players tried to teach everyone on the server how to play..

Especially when its one of the wannabees like tiny..

Hell u were a noname healer until you joined NP and now u think you are the gift of excalibur and suddenly start to lecture the whole of albion?

Gimme a break...

No krane this is not what it is about.
This was just an idea of a setup that might work good, it's not a "this is how you should play" post.
Didn't you think that i knew i would be flamed for this post?
Trying to come up with something new, it's bound to be flamed for.

 

[Lethul]

I have a group idea for frontiers that doesn't include mercs or reavers
no one likes it tho

how many times do i have to say this. 8 smite clerics does not equal pwn

 

[Glottis]

NP trying to sabotage Albion from the inside now.
Typical I guess, for them anything to win.
Regards, Glottis :kissit:

 

[Gordonax]

how many times do i have to say this. 8 smite clerics does not equal pwn

And that, my friend, is why you will never truly be an Alb

 

[Elyand]

NP trying to sabotage Albion from the inside now.
Typical I guess, for them anything to win.
Regards, Glottis :kissit:

grts, you just won the spot #3 on the retard list in this post. but hey.. thats not any news...

 

[Krane]

grts, you just won the spot #3 on the retard list in this post. but hey.. thats not any news...

noone cares?

 

[Elyand]

noone cares?

you seem to do since u posted a reply?

 

[Belomar]

Resolute Minion on cabby means un CCable pets.

For the Cabalist pet (note no plural), yes. Pets are for interrupting, nothing more. Theurgs already have several unCCable pets and need no pathetic, worthless RA to cast them.

God, I hate it that they had to give Cabalists yet another useless class RA when we've had to live with Juggernaut ever since RAs were introduced.

 

[Bracken]

I always loved when NP players tried to teach everyone on the server how to play..

Especially when its one of the wannabees like tiny..

Hell u were a noname healer until you joined NP and now u think you are the gift of excalibur and suddenly start to lecture the whole of albion?

Gimme a break...

Tiny's alright - and he has just put something up for discussion. Now't wrong with that.

Atleast he doesn't come across as a complete tosser like, for a random example, Cougar...

i see 2 retards here... hihi... albs die they qq, some1 comes up with ideas they qq ...

Aaah... so disagreeing is qq?

 

[Bracken]

I have been doing my thinking and came up with this (c/p from our guild forum) ...

any comments on those ? (you know the nice constructive comments)
remember they are meant as general guidelines how to make a char usefull in guild groups ... not fixed we only play with our 7 freinds kind of groups


Melee group:

Merc: Banelord/battelmaster8

Merc/reaver: Banelord/battelmaster8

Pally:Battlemaster8

Theurg: + power% & + Range %

Minser: SoM,GoV (soujner for zephyr)

Mind sorc: +castspeed %

Cleric: Perfector ml5+

Cleric: Perfector ml5+


Ice wizz group


Ice wizz: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Ice wizz: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Shield guy:battelmaster8

Mind sorc:+castspeed%+spell dur%

Bodysorc/ice wizz: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Theurg: + power% & + Range %

Cleric: Perfector ml5+

Cleric: Perfector ml5+


Nuker Group:

Bodysorc: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Bodysorc: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Spirit caby: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Spirit caby/body sorc: +Castspeed%+Spelldam%

Mind sorc: +Castspeed% +Spelldur%

Theurg: + power% & + Range %

Cleric erfector ml5+

Cleric: Perfector ml5+


And about the reaver ... i think reaver's will continue to grow in power with toa and NF ....

imho they are tanks which gets a lot better when the player get better .. noob reaver is worse than a noob merc ..

allso they got the only 1500 range instant in alb .. so they are good drivers in the hands of a fast player..

allso with toa the slam/levi combo rox so much becuase of increased melee speed (lots of levi's during slam) like the AE/singel stun is so much more powerfull when you got 25% cast speed

but give comments about the groups plz .. good comments

Filip
Theurg in HB

I think those are probably the best 3 options at the moment...though I would still probably take the merc instead of the non-det reaver in the tank group until frontiers.

Of course if I was making that tank group it would be a hybrid arms in that second melee spot, or instead of the 2nd cabby in the nuker group

 

[Glottis]

grts, you just won the spot #3 on the retard list in this post. but hey.. thats not any news...

Oh....
NO!!!!
Regards, Glottis

 

[Asha]

how many times do i have to say this. 8 smite clerics does not equal pwn

here is my group, laugh away!
cleric-rej
cleric-enh
mincer
sorc
theurg
friar
friar
friar
!
!
!

 

[kirennia]

One point though. Why why WHY 2 perfector clerics 1 perfector for cure nearsight and grp cure disease and the other insta ae heal thing for the rare times you use it but surely a free group AP2.5 for 35seconds every 10 minutes as well as an ML to make all surrounding pets run a mile is too good to pass up in a group? ESPECIALLY a caster group when pets are a great source of interupts.

My 2p

 

[Asha]

btw tiny is a good guy, cause he has an IDEA you have to throw it in his face? he just likes to think about these things, lay off.

:wub: ely - I know what you mean

 

[swords]

For the Cabalist pet (note no plural), yes. Pets are for interrupting, nothing more. Theurgs already have several unCCable pets and need no pathetic, worthless RA to cast them.

God, I hate it that they had to give Cabalists yet another useless class RA when we've had to live with Juggernaut ever since RAs were introduced.

Its still 6 pets 4 classes with aoe amnesia. plenty of interupt there tbh.
And before you start QQing what about the cleric one

 

[[NO]Subedai]

This group will be too fragile i think.
You dont have much of stun, and only 1 bodyguarder grappler.
With this setup you base your damage on pbae.
Without 2 bodyguarders (mid/hib) and aestun it will be really hard to play.
We'll have to see.

its arms wiz wiz sorc therg mincer 2 cleric.
got 2 clerics doing castable stuns and arms slamming.
ye we cant stun det stufff that well but thats for calamore to slam in box etc for.
we geneearlly assist nuke at start of fight..running into pbaoe any 1/2 decent grp is usually extremely stupid.

 

[Vasconcelos]

here is my group, laugh away!
cleric-rej
cleric-enh
mincer
sorc
theurg
friar
friar
friar
!
!
!

Tihi Meg :wub:

I can see the "Nerf Friar Booms" whines inc!!!11

 

[Belomar]

And before you start QQing what about the cleric one

I'm perfectly entitled to QQ because my class has had a pathetic RA since day one. Your class has had arguable one of the most overpowered RAs ever.

 

[kirennia]

I'm perfectly entitled to QQ because my class has had a pathetic RA since day one. Your class has had arguable one of the most overpowered RAs ever.

RAs do not maketh the class Nor does one aspect of a character, otherwise could say cabalists had arguably the best focus sheild in the game, which of course has VERY little relavance to the balance of the class.