Albion groupsetup FOTM ??!?!1!?

[Tinyheals]

Been doing some thinking about albionsetups after ToA,
and ive come up with a result that needs to be discussed.
Mostly by yourselves.

Cleric
Cleric
Sorcerer
Sorcerer
Wizard
Minstrel
Paladin
Reaver

Time for Reavers to enter combat? Well maybe, it's a thought.

With this setup you will have 2 bodyguarders with you, and minstrel with zephyr.
I think that a reaver will do good in this group. Determination just might not be so insanly important,
since bodyguard works even if you are mezzed. And the lack of determination was the reavers biggest downfall.
It IS one of the best tanks ingame, with very good utility. Consider the groups you will be facing after toa,
more and more casters are involved (finally), and the damagechant will do very good versus these.
Aswell as 2 instainterrupts, guard and slam. If you win mezz Minstrel will assist with reaver.
PB will ofcourse be used defencly.

Some people speak about dropping mincers out, for maybe sorc wiz or theurg, yes it might be vial,
but this setup also focus on surviving, and with sos, ablativechants and a hell of a lot interrupts,
and better damge with reaver beside you, i still think minstrel is a good idea.

Reflections and comments

 

[Bracken]

Only issue with having non-det tank bodyguard is that bodyguard cant be switched when mezzed...and switching bodyguard mid-fight can swing fights. Also being able to move around, slam (albeit in a small radius) and join in the offense when needed is important...and of course if you're mezzed you can't do those either. Pros and cons I think - though 2 bodyguards does rock, especially having atleast one with good offensive capability (*cough* hybrid arms works too *cough*)

 

[Ilienwyn]

Bodyguard or Zone of Unmana for reaver? (That's Battlemaster or Banelord question.)

As most are now doing caster groups and not tank groups I would think Zone of Unmana can be much more useful than second Bodyguard in a group.

PS: Oh, and show some love for your local reaver as we gonna need loads of rps to get all the useful ras in Frontiers

 

[Asty]

I think the setup NO are using may probably be the best alb setup after TOA

2 clerics, minstrel, pally, sorc, 2 ice wizzies, theurgist (?)

it does require the group to have decent rr and good teamplay to work though.

 

[Tinyheals]

I think the setup NO are using may probably be the best alb setup after TOA

2 clerics, minstrel, pally, sorc, 2 ice wizzies, theurgist (?)

it does require the group to have decent rr and good teamplay to work though.

This group will be too fragile i think.
You dont have much of stun, and only 1 bodyguarder grappler.
With this setup you base your damage on pbae.
Without 2 bodyguarders (mid/hib) and aestun it will be really hard to play.
We'll have to see.

 

[swords]

2 clerics
1 Reaver BG/Paladin BG
1 spirit cabalist
1 mind sorc
1 body sorc
1 minstrel
1 theurgist

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

5 friars sorc mincer and pally imo and yes ofc im biased

 

[Aussie]

Been doing some thinking

well you said a mouthfull with that. Staying in Alb was obviously too hard for you

 

[Remem]

2 cleric
1 mincer
1 merc
1 paladin
1 mind/body sorc
2 spirit cabbas

 

[Tinyheals]

well you said a mouthfull with that. Staying in Alb was obviously too hard for you

switched to hardmode to do toa with

sry aussie

 

[Qaewin]

I think the setup NO are using may probably be the best alb setup after TOA

2 clerics, minstrel, pally, sorc, 2 ice wizzies, theurgist (?)

it does require the group to have decent rr and good teamplay to work though.

They use an arms instead of a pally, they've seen the light
Arms with end pot > pallys

 

[Tinyheals]

They use an arms instead of a pally, they've seen the light
Arms with end pot > pallys

i wouldnt doubt a seconds to use pally instead of armsman

 

[bult]

in a caster group arms is >> pally

 

[Qaewin]

i wouldnt doubt a seconds to use pally instead of armsman

You and most other ppl, but i'm entitled to my opinion.

 

[Tinyheals]

in a caster group arms is >> pally

Ghettorezz, Endchant, afchant, healchant, instainterrupt > det5

maybe not pretoa, but definatley after.

 

[bult]

Ghettorezz, Endchant, afchant, healchant, instainterrupt > det5

maybe not pretoa, but definatley after.

Ghettorezz is just that, ghetto. endchant is only needed for the slammer himself so endpots will do. AF chant? specc AF from cleric instead. healchant = big deal. insta interupt is ok but not worth sacrificing det5 for. When RA changes go live it might be different tho.

 

[Vasconcelos]

Where is the buff shearer?? v1.69 is knocking at the doors

Gonna be funny to run with 3 clerics or with 1 reju 1 enhc

 

[Aussie]

switched to hardmode to do toa with

you can talk and turn your story as much times as you want. you can try to be as funny as many times as you want. even all the excuses in the world won't change the fact that you've tried to show how to do it in albion but quited for the reason which is probably to obvious to repeat again. I can only respect Zorena and Mumin for giving up a high rank and continue to play in Albion. Making threads like this makes me laugh. Your setup isn't based on experience nor knowledge about albion caster groups.

Cleric
Cleric
Sorcerer
Sorcerer
Wizard
Minstrel
Paladin
Reaver

so this means I see you tomorrow with

Healer
Healer
Pac Healer
RC RM
SM
Skald
Shamy
& Thane ?

 

[Tinyheals]

you can talk and turn your story as much times as you want. you can try to be as funny as many times as you want. even all the excuses in the world won't change the fact that you've tried to show how to do it in albion but quited for the reason which is probably to obvious to repeat again. I can only respect Zorena and Mumin for giving up a high rank and continue to play in Albion. Making threads like this makes me laugh. Your setup isn't based on experience nor knowledge about albion caster groups.

And theres no reason at all for you to act like a child and think your are a fucking king of some kind, which you aren't. I really do think you're a nice guy so cut the crap.

Albion is?/was an experiment of mine, which i did 1.2 mill rps in. Maybe not that much, and i havent ran many castergroups in albion, i have to admit, but i DO see what we face on the battlefield.

I dont need your respect at all, since its alot of talking and not much done from your side. Try come up with some constructiv critisism instead of trying fucking around with people.

You can laugh all you want, since you talk to a person that doesn't care about these stupid comments, just enough to answer to it.

But since you got so much more experience than i do, its kinda scary i dont see it in emain.

 

[Tinyheals]

Cleric
Cleric
Sorcerer
Sorcerer
Wizard
Minstrel
Paladin
Reaver

so this means I see you tomorrow with

Healer
Healer
Pac Healer
RC RM
SM
Skald
Shamy
& Thane ?

Oh that was the constructiv critisism, sorry aussie but i missed it in my last reply.

Is that your experience from rvr, im dissappointed

 

[bult]

Ghettorezz is just that, ghetto. endchant is only needed for the slammer himself so endpots will do. AF chant? specc AF from cleric instead. healchant = big deal. insta interupt is ok but not worth sacrificing det5 for. When RA changes go live it might be different tho.

That is for a caster group i mean, not for hybrid tank/caster wich is probably the best for ToA.

Personally i think that:
1 sorc 40b/36m
1 theurg 41i/35e
1 paladin (with BG)
1 merc (with BG)
2 cleric
2 icewiz

would be cool to test.

and run at casterspeed + sprint.

of course this might have to change when buff shearing goes live on EU.

 

[kirennia]

Oh that was the constructiv critisism, sorry aussie but i missed it in my last reply.

Is that your experience from rvr, im dissappointed

I think that's exactly his point.

 

[Bracken]

Ghettorezz, Endchant, afchant, healchant, instainterrupt > det5

maybe not pretoa, but definatley after.

Not in caster groups. Being able to switch bg is v important in those (not to mention SoB being useful)...atleast in my experience so far since TOA - and you cant switch when mezzed. Defensive pally is still tops of course for tank groups. When Frontiers comes in with new RAs it will be different...though there may be other changes by then which alter things again.

 

[Asha]

it's a nice idea tiny, but I think you're totally underestimating how bad it is to be a tank w/o det

I admit I am a crap reaver, but I still think you end up rooted/mezzed/stunned far too much.

In frontiers reavers look good.
I have a group idea for frontiers that doesn't include mercs or reavers
no one likes it tho

 

[Trubble]

Rejuv/Enh Cleric, perfector
Enh/Rejuv Cleric, warlord
Reaver 42+ shield, bodyguard
Ice Wiz
Matter/Body Cabalist
Ice/Earth Theurg
Body/Mind Sorc
Mind/Body Sorc (possible Minstrel)

I think this could be funny to test.

Against caster groups: Reaver use interrupt aura (and clerics must stun moc-ing casters) to give protection against pbaoe attacks, while cabby uses nearsight to give range advantage. Root is good against nearsighted casters.

Against tank groups: Gather around the icewiz if aggro (who is bodyguarded by reaver) and pbaoe the assist train if they try anything. Theurgist pet on all healers and root/nearsight on the shaman.

This group will also have dex/qui debuff, str/con debuff, ice debuff (on grappled target), 2 ae-amnesia and ae-disease.

 

[kirennia]

2 clerics
2 cabbies
4 sorcs


That setup with right specs can beat pretty much any FG with a bit of co-operation and relatively decent RR. 6 interupt pets can't be bad and the debuff+dmg teams (2 teams in grp both of cabby+2x sorc or maybe one with just cabby and sorc as the other one interupts should the pets get moored).

 

[swords]

In frontiers that group has access to 4 Ichors btw
And 2 BAOD's
2BOF
2PR
Resolute Minion on cabby means un CCable pets.
sorcs get the dont kill me focus thing

you arent going on speed 5 but hey who cares when you get all that Utility and dmg potential.
sure its fragile but with some RR behind it and teamwork its a nasty combo.

 

[bult]

Bodyguard is so worth it tho ;i

 

[Asha]

no mincer and no pala? no thx

kir you know smite dmg can't be debuffed right?

 

[Kagato]

Ewwww caster groups.