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Golena

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Do any of these actually play anymore, or has the entire system just been junked?

ML7 has now been bugged for the best part of 3 days with no signs of any GM's at all to fix it. Annoying to say the least.
 

Moaning Myrtle

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This is the problem, the people that are E&Es simply don't log in as often. I know Flimgoblin has important things going on outside the game that demand his attention, Eggy's too busy getting drunk and laid (if the wind blows in the right direction and he remembers to shower! :worthy: ) and I've no idea what Tilda does these days.

It also seems that the GoA representatives don't go online themselves as often. Perhaps it's time to appoint new E&Es?

It's a shame, but DAoC is almost 5 years old in Europe, it hasn't got the allure it once had and a gradual decrease in interest and effort is entirely normal, if a little sad :(
 

Sharaft

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katorii bugged? happy my raids are over. Lack of GM's is not new tho
 

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actulally katorii has been bugged on excal for a lot longer, before zues's last ml rush, 6 weeks ago
 

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They are either on vacation or they are programing flying levis ahahah :D
 

Kinetix

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The funny thing is that GOA seems to be clueless that the 160 ppl that were on last ml raid and the one previously wont get higher then ml6 without that step. Funny how ppl pay for the game and cant even get ml10 cause of a single mob.

Oh and almost forgot its not just requiel/xalim/zenythe theres a 4th GM now...altho i never seen him :p
 

Alan

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If you haven't already - log it on rightnow.

But I do agree about the E&E thing, I know some don't even play DAOC now - fresh blood me thinks :)
 

Kinetix

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Tears said:
If you haven't already - log it on rightnow.

But I do agree about the E&E thing, I know some don't even play DAOC now - fresh blood me thinks :)

What exactly are the E&E powers tears? i mean what can they do on a buged encounter?
 

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Kinetix said:
What exactly are the E&E powers tears? i mean what can they do on a buged encounter?

No idea :) Well not much of an idea, I think they get stuff like...

- access to the internal E&E boards
- called on to use a customized character slot for role playing some events
- some GM's on their MSN list

They do not have any extra commands or stuff to affect the game, they just have whtever a standard user has.
 

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I applied for an E&E post a few months ago since I noticed a lot of the current ones aren't about as much. Got a response saying it had been passed on to Requiel and then nothing, so they don't seem to be actively looking for new ones (or maybe my application was so bad they didn't bother to reply :p)
 

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Kinetix said:
What exactly are the E&E powers tears? i mean what can they do on a buged encounter?
afaik they have contact to the GM's using msn etc. So if they do something stuff gets sorted faster. or did anyway :p

ps. If u need new E&Es pick me! :D
 

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Tears said:
No idea :) Well not much of an idea, I think they get stuff like...

- access to the internal E&E boards
- called on to use a customized character slot for role playing some events
- some GM's on their MSN list

They do not have any extra commands or stuff to affect the game, they just have whtever a standard user has.


Dont think its reasonable to call on a GM on certain hours, i really doubt there will be a game master on msn on weekends and later hours. IMHO E&E should have the option to reset a encounter and the possibility to move certain mobs that are on a buged position or something.
i played WoW for some time and the fact that the game is much more stable then Daoc makes it possible that a GM isnt online every hour but for a instable game such as daoc i think the constant presence of some1 with such "powers" is necessary.

Ofc this person should have a extent knowlage of game and being active most of time
 

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humm, sorry but i disagree :) theres no way you should let anyone thats not employed by GoA have any kind of elevated access within the game - its just asking for trouble.

I remember reading somewhere that resetting encounters inst just as simple as a switch to turn off and on, it can be a complex routine.
 

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Tears said:
humm, sorry but i disagree :) theres no way you should let anyone thats not employed by GoA have any kind of elevated access within the game - its just asking for trouble.

I remember reading somewhere that resetting encounters inst just as simple as a switch to turn off and on, it can be a complex routine.

Hard routines can be changed to simple ones :) they could give a macro to E&E ppl for reseting encounters at least, like a batch process for reseting a encounter, they dont really have to access to hardcode of game :)

For example /encountereset "name of encounter-server". Yes i know its not simple to make this but think of the saved trouble GMs would get with having this on E&E no more complaints about missed encounters, they dont have to log ingame everytime theres something wrong

The fact is that holding 160 ppl on a encounter unable to move to the next 3mls is unacceptable, especially when this goes on for almost 6 weeks. Mythic/Goa dont have a stable game as everyone knows but they could change things so its easyable to repair.
 

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Bad idea. Just think of the potential for E&Es resetting encounters and doing them over and over again.
 

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Tears said:
humm, sorry but i disagree :) theres no way you should let anyone thats not employed by GoA have any kind of elevated access within the game - its just asking for trouble.

I remember reading somewhere that resetting encounters inst just as simple as a switch to turn off and on, it can be a complex routine.

if all E&E do is tell a GM there is a problem, whats the point in that, we can RN it...

maybe they should change the way bugs are fixed and alow selected people acsess to it, ie if they have to reset an encounter they must a take a SS and a breif desc on why action was needed, if they voilate this then remove there rights... that or restrict the amount of bugs your alowd to fix a month
picking trusted people however would prove a little difficult, if there is a form on the goa homepage you would only get people who wanted to abuse it, so i think it should be given out randomly, with an influence on time played, and account age
 

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Belomar said:
Bad idea. Just think of the potential for E&Es resetting encounters and doing them over and over again.

If a E&E resets several times a encounter after he has done it several times this will be loged and ofc he would get caught. not to mention ppl reporting them for abusing.

And one more thing, wich one is worse? you not being able to do a encounter along with duzens/hundred of ppl or a person farming a encounter?
 

psyco

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Kinetix said:
If a E&E resets several times a encounter after he has done it several times this will be loged and ofc he would get caught. not to mention ppl reporting them for abusing.

And one more thing, wich one is worse? you not being able to do a encounter along with duzens/hundred of ppl or a person farming a encounter?


most farmable ml steps have a really quick pop time, and arti's dont even drop anything decent anyway...
arti's are generally up now adays cause of that, so its alot harder to get credit now, cause theres nothing in it for the serv nec/matter cabby
the only 2 ml steps that i know of that have a slow repop is katorii witch is 48 hours, i think, and morai witch i think is 24 hours
i personnally wouldn't report anyone who abused the pop enoucter thing, i cant see the point in it...

another thing, the only thing i would abuse would be changing co5 credit to bg rather than group even though there easy with 2fgs or more and w8ing for pop is a good cause you can actully have a rest for 5 mins
 

Golena

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psyco said:
arti's are generally up now adays cause of that, so its alot harder to get credit now, cause theres nothing in it for the serv nec/matter cabby

It's actually much easier to get credit these days because stuff is up. No longer do you have to be at an arti within the 2 minutes a day it's actually up. One arti rush and you'll probably have the lot.

psyco said:
morai witch i think is 24 hours

repop on this is much faster than 24 hours! Used to be more like 1 hour.
 

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Golena said:
It's actually much easier to get credit these days because stuff is up. No longer do you have to be at an arti within the 2 minutes a day it's actually up. One arti rush and you'll probably have the lot.

it may be up, but your screwed if you dont know any serv necro willing to help, all you can do is ask on /as and hope some people come

fare enough there always up but theres no serv necro there 2 get you credit

i prefered toa pre toa easy mode
 

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Tears said:
no way you should let anyone thats not employed by GoA have any kind of elevated access within the game - its just asking for trouble.

I still stand by that :)

I find it near impossible to believe that a bugged ML encounter is still bugged after a week since it was reported.
 

Golena

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psyco said:
it may be up, but your screwed if you dont know any serv necro willing to help, all you can do is ask on /as and hope some people come

fare enough there always up but theres no serv necro there 2 get you credit

i prefered toa pre toa easy mode

If I didn't know 2 or 3 people that would help me with an arti I needed, i'd of stopped playing long ago.. friends are what makes the game what it is.
 

Golena

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back on topic anyway:

I think the E&E's used to do a fantastic job.. I do feel it's time for some new ones if the scheme is still in place however, since the ones that are currently there arn't nearly as active as they used to be.
The idea was originally to recruit people so there would be someone on most of the time.. If there's only someone about 10% of the time, you might as well just scrap the idea completely.
 

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Golena said:
If I didn't know 2 or 3 people that would help me with an arti I needed, i'd of stopped playing long ago.. friends are what makes the game what it is.

lol, always a catch with you, but you know what i meen:p
 

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Kinetix said:
Dont think its reasonable to call on a GM on certain hours, i really doubt there will be a game master on msn on weekends and later hours.

Erm ...

a) It's a 24-hr game, we pay the subs for the server being up 24hrs a day
barring downtime for maintenance and patching.

b) Despite this, weeknights and weekends are primetime for most working
people. What's the use in having 3 GM's online from 9am-5pm weekdays
when the vast majority of people play outside those hours. That would
be like hiring a security guard to work 4pm-6pm and sundays at a bank
and leave it unattended during the majority of working hours.

I think it's utterly ridiculous not to have at least one GM on, at the VERY least
from 8am-10pm on weekends.
 

psyco

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Tears said:
I find it near impossible to believe that a bugged ML encounter is still bugged after a week since it was reported.

its still possible:p
and fyi its been atleast 6weeks
 

Varna

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An E&E should not have the power to reset an encounter, even if this person is the most trustworthy of all - They shoudnt have this type of access as we're all aware of the potential to be hacked - I personally wouldnt like to see people walking around spawning apoc & legion in emain again.
 

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psyco said:
its still possible:p
and fyi its been atleast 6weeks

Whats the rightnow number logged 6 weeks ago then ? Im sure the GMs who be interested to see why it its taken so long.
 

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Tears said:
Whats the rightnow number logged 6 weeks ago then ? Im sure the GMs who be interested to see why it its taken so long.

dunno, i didn't report it but katorii's snakes have been bugged on excal for 6 weeks or more, also 3.4 has been bugged for the same dur iirc
 

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psyco said:
dunno, i didn't report it but katorii's snakes have been bugged on excal for 6 weeks or more, also 3.4 has been bugged for the same dur iirc

so who did report it ? maybe no one has, maybe thats why its still bugged :)
 

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