albion classes is starting to be alot looolish

[Lochlyessa]

Originally posted by chretien
Damon I'm guessing by your poor command of the language that English isn't your native tongue. So I'm going to apologise in advance for all the long words, perhaps your care-worker can explain them to you?

You sir are a detestable forum troll, the sort that rolls around happily feasting on it's own excrement day after day, never contributing to any discussion except with a feeble flame or to try and curry favour with the bigger and cleverer trolls by parroting their turd-like ramblings.

The thing is you aren't even a very brave troll even across an anonymous forum, you'll wait in your pit of slime, pustule encrusted and cyst ridden waiting for someone to take the first step. Then you'll step in and stir up your fecal ramblings like a toddler playing with the contents of his potty. In no post you have ever made is there evidence of intelligent or original thought, usually you just parrot off the same two or three monotonous, sludge ridden phrases. I wonder, do you even pause to wipe the shit and dribble from around your mouth between postings? It would appear not because every single word excreted by you onto these forums seems to be reminiscent of all those that went before.

In every post you make you continue to demonstrate your painfully low mentality and then in some wierd denial try and maintain that you are in some way more intelligent than everyone when the truth is plain to see. I have a newsflash for you Damon, to claim any kind of high ground you actually have to be there. Sitting in your quagmire while claiming to be in some ivory tower is fooling no-one.

Now you can respond to this with one of your stock phrases or some 'gem' from your barely simian consciousness which you fancy is new and clever but to be honest I don't care. You are now (where you should have been for some time) on my ignore list. When an offensive smell enters my world I shut it out.
You Damon are an offensive smell and I have shut you out.
Now get back under your bridge and stay there.

Edited for Gamah

said ^^

 

[Derric]

Haha Chretien deserves some sort of honorary custom title for that one.

 

[NeonBlue]

Originally posted by Cathul
Master of Arms doesn't raise the lowered base-dmg with low-leftaxe specc, for that you need Duelist Reflexes, and you still suffer from high delay of a 2hander if you used it for PA even if you switch to two onehanded weapons after the PA.

So now you've got something to think about, right?

/Cathul

i wasnt on about raising the base dmg...the person i replied to with that comment was on about 2handers being too slow to use...so i suggested master of arms to reduce their swing speed...and the Sbs ive seen use 2handers to PA with then switch to 2 1handers dont seem to suffer from any high delay...if they did.... i wouldnt keep dying to them

and nope ive havent anything to think about...am an infil i dont need or want to use 2handers all the time nor have i got the luxury of being able to spec for it

 

[NeonBlue]

Originally posted by Muh
Well, the af spec buff on the cleric is unique for alb, and having every infil,
scout and mincer with a buffbot have one, isnt actually help balancing the already
unbalanced stealth war.
and from my personal experience in rvr, I meet 10 buffed stealthers for every unbuffed, so there is no point denying this fact.
Keep in mind this is all from a solo stealthers point of view.
Now bring on the flames.

1) whats so unbalanced about the stealth wars?...

mids are just as guility as the albs for stealth zerging....only the other day there was 6 Sbs and 3hunters camping the amg...and that was early morning...as far as i can see the stealth war as u call it...it pretty balanced...u mids just dont like that fact infils get DragonFang.

2) Well, the af spec buff on the cleric is unique for alb, and having every infil, scout and mincer with a buffbot have one, isnt actually help balancing the already unbalanced stealth war

in other words ur just pissed that Albs have something u mids dont...why is it that everyone or some ppl seem to forgot classes in each realm have different abilities/spells/buffs...if we all had the same setup the game would be boring and be no challenge...mids main CC class (pac healer)...has instant mezz/stun...our main CC class doesnt...we have to live with it and deal with & adapt.

3) My point is simply to nerf the alb/hib buffbot into line
with the mid one (from a stealther's point of view).

The above should read...nerf the alb/hib buffbot line because its better than the mids 1 and we dont like it....(from a mids point of view)

4) Keep in mind this is all from a solo stealthers point of view

Solo stealther....u might not group with anyone but u sure bring alot of friends with you...so i can hardly call that soloing...ur usually hanging outside on the road near the APK...with at least 3 other Sbs/hunters


but like some wise person said earlier on in the thread...its realm balance that is IMPORTANT...not class balance...but when a class dominates and effects the realm balance then they need to be looked at....i dont think infils or mincers/mercs which might be overpowered in some ppls eyes...effect the realm balance overall...but there are classes out there that need a hard look at...and they aint Alb/Hib ones !

 

[Damon_D]

Ahhh chretien yet again you bring a smile to my face . I wonder how many fairytails your mom has been reading to you , before you came across one with a troll and a bridge , so you did not have to come up with an intelligent retort of your own. I ofcourse could do the same , and compare you to several silly characters from childrens book's...But its been so long since I read one of those.. So I will let you have the field of rights here , since your clearly the expert on childrens book's


Clearly I must have struck a nerve somewhere , to make you , the commander of highly cultivated language , to have to resort to using languag as fecal and turd..ohhh my

Yet it strikes me you seem to have extended knowledge in the area of fecal handling ,the explicit detailing of it makes it clear to me you must be highly experienced in the area.

I do not claim to have any knowledge of your real life situation , but it becomes clear that you must have some difficulties, I beg forgivenes if my small retorts have upset you so much , that it has lead to any dis-comfort for your familly, it was not my intention to put more stress on them , clearly thay have there hands full with taking care of you , and I hope you appreciate there help.

I shall try to refere from upsetting you anymore , no telling how much harm I have done allready , and I pray that you not so ill off that there is no helping you


Ahh and whilst I remeber it , no english is clearly not my first language , not even my second , and therefor I appologise if any of the above fails to live up to the high grammatic standards on this board


/em Performs a sweaping bow , touching one knee to the ground

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by NeonBlue
1) bla bla bla

but like some wise person said earlier on in the thread...its realm balance that is IMPORTANT...not class balance...but when a class dominates and effects the realm balance then they need to be looked at....i dont think infils or mincers/mercs which might be overpowered in some ppls eyes...effect the realm balance overall...but there are classes out there that need a hard look at...and they aint Alb/Hib ones !

when the stealth classes fight other stealthers 95% of the time , its is essential that the stealth classes are balanced if you fail to see that , well then I feel sorry for you

 

[gwyneth-love]

lol if i fought other stealthers 95% of the time i would be a slash mercfil

 

[bigchief]

Originally posted by Damon_D
when the stealth classes fight other stealthers 95% of the time , its is essential that the stealth classes are balanced if you fail to see that , well then I feel sorry for you

Assassin classes arnt that badly balanced tbh. Ok group wise alb has the advantage because of minstrels (personally I dont think they should have stealth) but 1v1 its not bad. Sure I can rape certain ns's/sb's easily every time 1v1, but others give me a proper fight that even if I PA I can lose.

Alot depends on spec, ns/sb have less spec points so need to be more careful about what they spec in. An infil can get away with putting stuff all over and still end up balanced. A ns/sb cant. 90% of those that whinge that their class is unbalanced is just a bad spec or has no sc or perhaps is just shit

 

[Damon_D]

Hehehe yeah all the Sb's that whine have just chosen a bad spec

 

[bigchief]

Originally posted by Damon_D
Hehehe yeah all the Sb's that whine have just chosen a bad spec

Zzzzzz

Explain to me why some sb's utterly fucking suck, and some sb's are actually bloody good then. And I dont mean skill wise, I mean in a straight fight time and time again the same sb's can stand their ground while others just fold over every single time. If its not spec and SC then smartarse explain to me what it is.

 

[gwyneth-love]

Midagard had the best non stealth classes atm and good players usually play what good at that moment . resuslting in very skilled mid groups . In alb the classes have a hard time competing with the midds so allot of good players made a stealther and are completely owning the sb`s a big factor in this is that they just have more playing skills

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by bigchief
Zzzzzz

Explain to me why some sb's utterly fucking suck, and some sb's are actually bloody good then. And I dont mean skill wise, I mean in a straight fight time and time again the same sb's can stand their ground while others just fold over every single time. If its not spec and SC then smartarse explain to me what it is.

M8 you tell me what SB's it is that can stand up , and I'll go ask em how they spec'd.. All i know is that every possible spec out there has been tested into oblivion , and we are still getting out dmg'd by a fair margin.. I'm realy trying not to whine or anything , and would like some info from the "dark side "..ffs any help is appreciated

 

[NeonBlue]

Originally posted by Damon_D
when the stealth classes fight other stealthers 95% of the time , its is essential that the stealth classes are balanced if you fail to see that , well then I feel sorry for you

as usual another attempt at a witty reply...but sadly failed...the point i was making is ...that the stealth classes are balanced!

the ONLY way i see infils having the slight edge is that they get 2.5spec points and that is all.

if infils were that overpowered say like savages we would be taking out other stealthers in 2/3 shots..but we aint...most of my fights are close hard fought fights

just that you mids whinge on about infils coz of 1 style!

and those that do whine...obviously cant play their class to its full potiental...there are SBs out there that can and do a damn good job of it!

examples of good Sbs that ive met...who give me a hard fight everytime and the outcome is never guarnateed...Mirea...Throat..Aldoran..Szakal

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by gwyneth-love
Midagard had the best non stealth classes atm and good players usually play what good at that moment . resuslting in very skilled mid groups . In alb the classes have a hard time competing with the midds so allot of good players made a stealther and are completely owning the sb`s a big factor in this is that they just have more playing skills

Ofcourse silly me..all the realy good players in midgaard , and that goes for every singel server out there including the US , play savages and healers , and the retards are playing SB's..and that blindfolded...Ofcourse sb's have to loos versus infil's then..god dont I fell silly now

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by NeonBlue
as usual another attempt at a witty reply...but sadly failed...the point i was making is ...that the stealth classes are balanced!

the ONLY way i see infils having the slight edge is that they get 2.5spec points and that is all.

if infils were that overpowered say like savages we would be taking out other stealthers in 2/3 shots..but we aint...most of my fights are close hard fought fights

just that you mids whinge on about infils coz of 1 style!

and those that do whine...obviously cant play their class to its full potiental...there are SBs out there that can and do a damn good job of it!

Ahh what the hell I give up..no point reasoning with peopel like you.. I confess All SB's are fool's and dont know what they are doing , if they did they would clearly have choosen to play an infil

btw I cant see the witty in my comment , I just point out that 95% of stealthers fight other stealthers , if you not one of them ..well good for you, but you must have a rather strange sence of humor if you find it witty....

If on the other hand its the " the stealthers aint balanced " comment you think is funny..well then you should get your head surgically removed from ya arse..Any one saying that the stealther classes are evenly balanced as they are now are talking shit and they know it...

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by gwyneth-love
lol if i fought other stealthers 95% of the time i would be a slash mercfil

So your thrust specced..Im sure you picked that path because dragonfang will help you not to get staff killed by random casters....

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by Muh
And before you all start to whine that buffbots shouldnt be taken into consideration blah, blah. They should, that's the way mythic wants

And as for the different end regen of the three realms, i cant see why you want to trade your chants for the shammy style
end regen, there's seldom room for more then 1 shammy in a group, and speccing end to whole group blows half his conc pool,
leaving rest of group with 1 more spec buff each.

giggle

 

[the_smurflord]

Originally posted by Damon_D
M8 you tell me what SB's it is that can stand up , and I'll go ask em how they spec'd.. All i know is that every possible spec out there has been tested into oblivion , and we are still getting out dmg'd by a fair margin.. I'm realy trying not to whine or anything , and would like some info from the "dark side "..ffs any help is appreciated

Cylian.
One of the worst SBs to run into in my opinion. Damned good player.

 

[NeonBlue]

Originally posted by Damon_D
If on the other hand its the " the stealthers aint balanced " comment you think is funny..well then you should get your head surgically removed from ya arse..Any one saying that the stealther classes are evenly balanced as they are now are talking shit and they know it...

only person i see talking shit...is you

the only ppl i see talking about infils being overpowered is Sbs and its always the same ppl...which just leads me to believe they cant play their class and this whine was heightened after the LA nerf...which to me was needed...and now because Zerkers/Sbs deal the dmg they were suppose to do in the 1st place....ppl cant accept this and think they are nerfed.

The decent Sbs out there dont whine...they go out and kill instead... perhaps others should learn from this!


but whatever is said on here...mids will never be happy...not only have they got possibly the 3/4 most overpowered classes in the game at the moment...and they still find other things to whine about.

 

[bigchief]

Originally posted by Damon_D
M8 you tell me what SB's it is that can stand up , and I'll go ask em how they spec'd.. All i know is that every possible spec out there has been tested into oblivion , and we are still getting out dmg'd by a fair margin.. I'm realy trying not to whine or anything , and would like some info from the "dark side "..ffs any help is appreciated

Cylian is always a good fight (ok hes also v high RR)
I want to say Szakal but i have never met him 1v1 except in df where hes buffed and im not so I cant comment on him.
Cepheus
Aldoran
Marath
Inquity
Zil
Muh
Punster perhaps ..

neonblue mentioned Throat who most albs choose to be their definition of a gimpblade so hes certainly not on my list

 

[Muh]

Originally posted by NeonBlue
as usual another attempt at a witty reply...but sadly failed...the point i was making is ...that the stealth classes are balanced!

the ONLY way i see infils having the slight edge is that they get 2.5spec points and that is all.

examples of good Sbs that ive met...who give me a hard fight everytime and the outcome is never guarnateed...Mirea...Throat..Aldoran..Szakal

Ok, we agree upon that 2.5 spec is a slight advantage.
What about dragonfang ? A buffed infil with evade7, 330+dex
and maybe some dodger is bound to evade a few times
in each and every fight, and unless he messes his styles up,
you are _very_ likely to end up dragonfanged. Meaning you need
purge to even have a snowball's chance in hell to win. Imo all
stun styles on assasin should be second in chain or something,
having 9 or even 5 sec stun as a virtual anytimer is too much.

Vanish is also an abilty that I find frustrating at times, infils dont bothering landing PA at all, just pop you from stealth to then
Vanish-PA you later in the fight. I've even lost to infils I've
PA'ed in the first place, so maybe evade cd and Vanish-PA me back i.e. And that's just wrong imo.

And seeing you classify Throat as a hard fight, Im curious who
you're infil is? After what I've read earlier here, Throat has
just about zero resists, and always run in pack of 3+.

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by Muh
Ok, we agree upon that 2.5 spec is a slight advantage.
What about dragonfang ? A buffed infil with evade7, 330+dex
and maybe some dodger is bound to evade a few times
in each and every fight, and unless he messes his styles up,
you are _very_ likely to end up dragonfanged. Meaning you need
purge to even have a snowball's chance in hell to win. Imo all
stun styles on assasin should be second in chain or something,
having 9 or even 5 sec stun as a virtual anytimer is too much.

Vanish is also an abilty that I find frustrating at times, infils dont bothering landing PA at all, just pop you from stealth to then
Vanish-PA you later in the fight. I've even lost to infils I've
PA'ed in the first place, so maybe evade cd and Vanish-PA me back i.e. And that's just wrong imo.

And seeing you classify Throat as a hard fight, Im curious who
you're infil is? After what I've read earlier here, Throat has
just about zero resists, and always run in pack of 3+.

why didnt you reply to my post?

 

[Muh]

Originally posted by old.Lethul
giggle

Not much to say there, is it?

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by Muh
Not much to say there, is it?

read what i quoted from you then

 

[iceforge]

Originally posted by gwyneth-love
Midagard had the best non stealth classes atm and good players usually play what good at that moment . resuslting in very skilled mid groups . In alb the classes have a hard time competing with the midds so allot of good players made a stealther and are completely owning the sb`s a big factor in this is that they just have more playing skills

Had respect for you posts before, dear Gwyneth, normally spoke with wise words, but if that is your look of things, I have no more respec for you what-so-ever...

After reading that my view of you is being a lame morron, don't wanna be harsh, as I hope you wrote it in a drunk moment or something? But what the hell is that about? So all good players should play fotm? You seem so god damn retarded to me now I will just stop writing more before I break some CoC here (I might have done that now) out of disappointment/anger....

 

[Muh]

Just did, and still wonder what part of it you find so funneh

 

[hangianix]

Originally posted by Muh
And seeing you classify Throat as a hard fight, Im curious who
you're infil is? After what I've read earlier here, Throat has
just about zero resists, and always run in pack of 3+.

Hard fight maybe 'cause he always run in pack of 3+?

 

[NeonBlue]

Originally posted by Muh
Ok, we agree upon that 2.5 spec is a slight advantage.
What about dragonfang ? A buffed infil with evade7, 330+dex
and maybe some dodger is bound to evade a few times
in each and every fight, and unless he messes his styles up,
you are _very_ likely to end up dragonfanged. Meaning you need
purge to even have a snowball's chance in hell to win. Imo all
stun styles on assasin should be second in chain or something,
having 9 or even 5 sec stun as a virtual anytimer is too much.

Vanish is also an abilty that I find frustrating at times, infils dont bothering landing PA at all, just pop you from stealth to then
Vanish-PA you later in the fight. I've even lost to infils I've
PA'ed in the first place, so maybe evade cd and Vanish-PA me back i.e. And that's just wrong imo.

And seeing you classify Throat as a hard fight, Im curious who
you're infil is? After what I've read earlier here, Throat has
just about zero resists, and always run in pack of 3+.

Maybe having DF as avirtual anytime style is a bit too much but lets face it thats the only decent style in the thrust line...if i had known how crap thrust was in terms of styles then i would of probably gone slash instead...and am still thinking on this because am sick of relying on garrote with Df as backup style...i prefer to be able to play my class with a selection of styles...so its more than likely in the future ill respec to slash


Abilities like Vanish that are on a timer i dont worry about too much...it can be used once every 30mins? so not big of a deal...and tbh my infil doesnt have it...ive prefered to spend my points on what i consider better passive Ras


hmmm i didnt know Throat usually ran in a pack of 3...for the 1st time last night i beat him pretty easy in a 1v1 and did wonder why it seemed to be so easy...so maybe before when i thought he was hard and hit hard....it was actually someone else in his pack....i just remember his name and the fact i went down bloody quick.

 

[Muh]

Originally posted by NeonBlue
Maybe having DF as avirtual anytime style is a bit too much but lets face it thats the only decent style in the thrust line...if i had known how crap thrust was in terms of styles then i would of probably gone slash instead...and am still thinking on this because am sick of relying on garrote with Df as backup style...i prefer to be able to play my class with a selection of styles...so its more than likely in the future ill respec to slash


Abilities like Vanish that are on a timer i dont worry about too much...it can be used once every 30mins? so not big of a deal...and tbh my infil doesnt have it...ive prefered to spend my points on what i consider better passive Ras


hmmm i didnt know Throat usually ran in a pack of 3...for the 1st time last night i beat him pretty easy in a 1v1 and did wonder why it seemed to be so easy...so maybe before when i thought he was hard and hit hard....it was actually someone else in his pack....i just remember his name and the fact i went down bloody quick.

If you check some growt rate's you will see that the cs styles are
actually among the best choices an assasin have.
Garrote - AH as anytime is awesome (a little heavy on the end tho)
Hamstring chain has insane dmg and low end.
So what 50 thrust gives you is uber WS and a anytime 9 sec stun.
Not to mention the str/con debuff doesnt hurt your WS half
as much as sb/slash infil.

 

[NeonBlue]

Originally posted by Muh
If you check some growt rate's you will see that the cs styles are
actually among the best choices an assasin have.
Garrote - AH as anytime is awesome (a little heavy on the end tho)
Hamstring chain has insane dmg and low end.
So what 50 thrust gives you is uber WS and a anytime 9 sec stun.
Not to mention the str/con debuff doesnt hurt your WS half
as much as sb/slash infil.

aye garrote is very "end" heavy....hamstring i use alot

aye i know about the draw back of being a slash infil and the debuffs....hence why am still debating whether not to respec or not...