Albion Attitudes

[corranhorn1]

xp hunger / and sharma!

people are xp hungry, always have always will be. i left a group to go to dragon raid, and i asked them to take on an infiltrator that was of my guild, most were fine with it, when it came to the crunch it didnt happen... why, xp hungry person and to make it worse, a member of the same guild as me and the infiltrator. got to love that, not only do they turn there back on people of realm they do so to their own guild, those you are there to help above others <sighs>... i dont expect any help from anyone now days, i got a nice list of low 40s people that i know will do the job and do it as a team, i go to them first get a group started or join one that they are in... from there it is fun, you have the company of a good number of people and this isnt a one person game remember sociallising and getting to know others is good thing you learn how they work and what the can do and so when 50 and in RvR together you can react better to many people. Groups are good large even if xp isnt great for you it better then nothing and by turning back on realm you end up soloing in return for nothing. get to know people and get them all in the group, you will have fun


SHARMA you pbaoe's be welcome to me. it is damn good xp, those gobo;s dont know what they in for when they come to range. tonight my merc was grouped with two ice wizards, couple of clerics, theurist, and another merc. clerics where smiting for hell of it as had noone to heal (unless i had fun and body pulled) and us mercs took aggro as much as could and worked a treat, i not leaveled in 2 weeks due to poor groups and getting annoyed so suiciding to frontier, this group i flew through the last half of my 40th season. so basicall look me up if you want the pboae's at tanglers, i shall try accommadiate you, you are an asset to any group that allows you to do it, get 2 or 3 of you and i can sit and watch as the gobo's die and cheer you on<laughs>.


anyway i rambled on, my apology for that. if you read this far you probably insane as i go on too much

/salute

 

[Generic Poster]

Corranhorn, how did your group do the PBAoE stunt with tangler pulls?
Did you root, then pull 3 or so and PB them, or did you manage to take the whole pull in one go?

Ice wizzies are kinda rare in Albion. The last time we managed to do a PB group was in the Catacombs. The crossroad bit is perfect, but we were working soo well, the wizard ended up spaming PB in the middle of a corridor, whilst the rest of us agro'd all 6 romans. Not bad going, considering they con'd red/purple

 

[corranhorn1]

pboae's

the standard action was to root/stun them then pull up to 6 at a time. very fast and effective, however you can take on the entire group at once but you need them all grouped up nicely so pet pulls are good idea in that case. however if you want to take on the entire pull at once you need more then 1 wizard preferably , 2/3 ice wizards do a damn fine job here.

and the rarety of ice wizards is high, i know but a few, so anyone with sense will be fighting over them to make use of their skills....

 

[old.linnet]

vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=35968141&replies=17


... is a nice guide to PBAE hunting and how to do it.

 

[agraucred]

my attitude towards the albs on prydwen is getting worse and worse due to some of the complete fools that play this realm/server. this morning i logged in thinking "early bird catches the worm.... get a group early". i didnt mind hanging around at first, so i just wandered abobut looking.... i came across a group of 7 camping the tangler island... i asked if they needed an 8th but i got no reply, how nice of them, so i waited till they finished there next pull... stil nothing, then i get a PM from one in there group saying "i asked but noone said anything". fair enough, though at least saying NO would save me standing around thinking im being ignored by exp-robots, then within 5 minutes im seeing that they are regularly have a person or 2 die... now forgive me of im wrong, but surely an 8th person (taking away what? 500k per gobo?) is better than having a person die almost every pull costing down time etc? i already have a couple of alts on midgard/excal, but they have recently been looking alot more fun than alb/pryd. untill this point i have always kept groups ful when i have led... hell, ive even added classes that we didnt really need over another class but thats going to stop, as is the "our group of 5 died... can you rez our cleric?". expect to see me laugh at that kind of request

 

[Generic Poster]

I ran into a "we're fine" group last night. 5mins later, they all died

Don't give up, get revenge.

If someone tells me "we're fine", they go on my "don't group" list. Players who want to stop this evil, for the progress of Albion should employ a similar tactic. When said person asks you for a group, remind them of their ass-hole attitude and turn them down.


If players in Albion really want to end this filth, we need to enforce our own laws, whereby if the group leader refuses to grop someone without justification(e.g. the case described by agraucred above), then people should leave the group and form a new one.

It will take major support and co-operation to implement this, but if we work at it, the "we're fine" groups should die and make life easier for upcoming generations of Cabalists!

 

[old.k70]

Originally posted by Generic Poster
If someone tells me "we're fine", they go on my "don't group" list. Players who want to stop this evil, for the progress of Albion should employ a similar tactic.

Looks like you have no clue about high level xping at tanglers Once and for all: Full groups of level 45+ at tanglers HURT the realm xp-wise. So please - 'For the progress of Albion' - realize that.

It will take major support and co-operation to implement this, but if we work at it, the "we're fine" groups should die and make life easier for upcoming generations of Cabalists!

Btw: High level Cabalists can solo whole tangler camps and usually do

 

[cHodAX]

Originally posted by old.k70


Btw: High level Cabalists can solo whole tangler camps and usually do

Aye cabalist is king of the casters in my eyes.

 

[kr0n]

OMG whos saying theres downtime at tanglers? Only downtime there is, is a slow pop fgs

Usually takes me 'bout 40 secs to solo a pull, depends how much I fuck up. I loose 'bout 10% of power and depending on pet lvl, 5-10% of pet health. I could do it without pet but its bit dangerous (resists etc)

But, people saying that "powerleveling, you aint enjoying the game etc etc" crap are totally wrong. I personnally DO NOT enjoy leveling, I enjoy the fun in RvR. So who the feck are you guys to judge my playstyle if I want to have fun in my own way, not the same way you do? If Í want to keep exp grps small, Im gonna keep em. If you start whining 'cause "bohoo I cant get exp" youre a lam0r. I know what it feels like to be rejected from groups. It feels bad. But thats just the way cookie crumbles, life is hard etc. World aint perfect, people aint perfect, and hell no, this game aint perfect. What doesnt suit you might suit other people, you play your game as you wish, I play mine.

And it is a game, addictive or not, its still a game. Even tho sometimes things get a bit outta hand. Would be different if we all lived next door and started bashing each other after someone stole a kill etc.

Blah, tired.

 

[Generic Poster]

Originally posted by old.k70
Looks like you have no clue about high level xping at tanglers Once and for all: Full groups of level 45+ at tanglers HURT the realm xp-wise. So please - 'For the progress of Albion' - realize that.

Looks like you missed my previous post, where I asked why lv45+ groups hog tangler spots, where they are deprieving 8 people of good XP. 'For the progress of Albion', get your pussy asses to some Red/purp cons and leave the feckin yellows alone

 

[old.k70]

People usually do Tanglers because it's pretty easy to set up a group and/or didn't get a spot in a tree one. It's not like once you hit level 45+ you get invited to a xp group as you log in.

You just see it from the point of view of those people who are in the level range where they progress nicely in a full group at Tanglers.

I have no clue why some people think that you have to hunt in a full group. I really don't get it. And you proposal of your list really made me giggle

 

[Generic Poster]

People hunt in full groups because it can add to the entertainment. Remember some people don't play this game solely to get to lv50, the ones who do that are those who've already left the game which is pointless, imo.


If I only played to level, I'd load up Baldur'd Gate or something. MMORPGs give you that chance for some added fun whilst levelling, granted, not everyone feels this way, but if some players want to go all the way and become assholes, you're damn right I'll remember them as that.

 

[old.ondor]

well to be honest people

an infiltrator doent really help the group at pve

he doesnt deal damage
he isnt tank

so if u start a group u dont hunt infis
u want the body
healer
cc
pbt
tanks
damage dealers

so how much space is left for infiltrator ....


any way after lvl 45 all are welcome at witherwood camps

i believe


until lvl 45.... u have to work the hard way
any way if u wana rule pvp u gota pay the price


and this works at all realms all servers.....

im i wrong?

 

[kr0n]

Inf deals shit loads of damage TBH. Its called fast weapons, CS styles and damage adds. L50 inf hits even con for ~300 with garrotte and ~100 with offhand. + ~60 from damage adds. So thats over 500 damage to even con. And if he's slash (which is better in PvE) he might do more :/

Im not certain about the numbers but it is something around those figures.

 

[ivan_tribbiani]

Originally posted by old.ondor
well to be honest people

an infiltrator doent really help the group at pve

he doesnt deal damage edit: <chokes>
he isnt tank edit: Hence thats why he is Rogue and not Fighter

so if u start a group u dont hunt infis
u want the body
healer
cc
pbt
tanks
damage dealers edit : Oh yeah us infs cant even scratch the mobs, sorry i tend to forget that

so how much space is left for infiltrator ....
edit : I would say plenty, since how many Scorcerers/Theurgists do you think there are per normal XP group ?

any way after lvl 45 all are welcome at witherwood camps
edit : Why ? According to your line of reasoning we dont PvE, we XP by leeching --> as we arent particularly usefull in any way

i believe


until lvl 45.... u have to work the hard way
any way if u wana rule pvp u gota pay the price
edit : But then again this isnt PvP server, its RvR.

and this works at all realms all servers.....

im i wrong?
edit: You think ?

 

[old.k70]

Originally posted by Generic Poster
People hunt in full groups because it can add to the entertainment. Remember some people don't play this game solely to get to lv50, the ones who do that are those who've already left the game which is pointless, imo.


If I only played to level, I'd load up Baldur'd Gate or something. MMORPGs give you that chance for some added fun whilst levelling, granted, not everyone feels this way, but if some players want to go all the way and become assholes, you're damn right I'll remember them as that.

Looks like you missed my previous post, where I asked why lv45+ groups hog tangler spots, where they are deprieving 8 people of good XP. 'For the progress of Albion', get your pussy asses to some Red/purp cons and leave the feckin yellows alone

Why don't those 8 people you talk of move to some other mobs and have fun there if they don't care that much about xp anyway? This way both groups have fun, those who like small tangler groups and those who just like to play the game itself and don't care that much about xp.

 

[listepik]

Right on, Layl and Ivan

 

[old.Bubble]

hehe nice post ivan

 

[Jupitus]

Infils certainly can deal some decent damage if they choose to, but a good player will look at the overall situation and play accordingly...

Sure - I could stealth at the trees while a tank pulls a nice purple con, then run up and PA CD SS combo it for a few hundred damage, together with a DOT ticking for 50 HPs per tick every 2 seconds ... BUT if I get the aggro from a purple con tree, it takes about 20-25% of my hp per hit. Sure, I evade alot, but would you want to rely on that? No... so the duty then falls to the group healer, very often the only one, to keep me alive, and if he wastes his mana on me, the whole group might go down in a nasty pull.

Now - I'm pretty sure you'd grumble if you were killed in that kind of scenario.....

Plan B is to let the main tanks hit first, and then just tank without stealth on purple cons, letting the envenom damage tick over (that's 250 HP on its own remember, and I have a backup DOT weapon and a debuff going too) and hitting with garotte/achilles heel combos but being ready with a detaunt style if necessary. Red con mobs, particularly worms, I am happy to stealth and PA, but in practical terms this is often too slow anyway, but I do also keep an eye on the mezzer, and the mezzed mobs in case of resists or aggro - even I can take more hits than Lunar

So - to say infils can't dish out damage is wrong - put me in a group with 2 healers, buff me up and watch my PA, baby I reckon people are just jealous because we have all the coolest moves in the book

 

[Jupitus]

Ooooo... I forgot to mention - don't try to gauge an infils damage output simply on how much you see the mobs HP drop in chunks on the bar.... alot of the damage we do comes from DOTs or bleeds too which is hard to notice like that

 

[Saturnine]

There are frequent occasions when I don`t like albion.

Anything connecting to the lyonesse is one of them.