Alb Power Relic

Faeldawn

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A short while ago the Alb power relic went neutral, so off we trot to investigate or survey the ruins of Dagda expecting to have been done by a sneak RR, guess what we find?

Inner and outer doors at 100% all guards present and correct but...no relic :)

No-one anywhere near Dagda

About 20 mins later message tells us Mids have captured it, yay for mids, except we still have their power relic tucked away in dagda.....?

General consensus in Hib is confusion to be honest, anyone know anything more?
 

Tuffa

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This may sound weird but i heard that a fg of mids found the relic when then were rebuffing? :)
 

Konah

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doesn't change the fact u ain't supposed to be able to cap an enemy relic until your own of that type is in its shrine...

i smell a free relic return for the hibbys :eek6:
 

Faeldawn

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Had also heard what Tuffa said, that a middie found it at DC crossroads.

Just interested to know how it got there (proll a bug ofc, but still) :)
 

M® Zîllâ

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This was on bw fourms some mid called athom posted it

Well, we where going for a rebuff and i saw the staff standing in the ground behind a tree. No enemies at all in sight. then we met hib-grp and i died, so the staff was handed over to Aquilin. After that i dont know what happened, but that's the true story. i didn't even know what the staffs was. Had no stats or anything so i was thinking CRAP LOOT actually =p

sounds all odd to me
 

Xanthian

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I detect some cheat'age from them Black Cuntany tbh...
Seems to be 4 or 5 different storys floating about, and Pandemongic spouting random blarb as usual.
 

M® Zîllâ

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well its all very weird and no albs seem to have admited to takeing the relic and tbh i cant c how they could of with out the doors being taken down?
 

Xanthian

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No doors down
no notification of it being removed
and no guards killed


= bug or cheat
 

Gog

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Konah said:
doesn't change the fact u ain't supposed to be able to cap an enemy relic until your own of that type is in its shrine...

i smell a free relic return for the hibbys :eek6:

You can't take a relic from an opposing rk unless you have your own relic. A dropped relic can be picked up by anyone and returned to their realms shrine. Once it is out of its shrine,any person, be it alb, mid or hib can take the relic and return it to their own shrine.

The question is how did the relic get out of the the rk with no doors being touched?
 

Tootz

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The BW threads on this are vague to say the least. None of the major alb alliances seem to know anything about any RR, we were all as clueless as you hibs.

It seems strange that the staff was "found" just laying on the ground reportedly at DCX - why it would be dropped here if an alb force had taken it is also a mystery as its hardly on the way to ATK.

Tbh, it all smells very fishy and either someones hacked the server again to relocate the relic, or someones abused a bug to get through the doors undetected.

Black Company sure did like camping the AMG though throughout it all (intercepting or defending who knows). Hope some accounts are lost over it though ;)
 

rivan

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maybe something akin to the old door bug, whereby you could bypass the doors if you had a different keep-layout stored locally?

guess we need to wait for the boys at goa to wake up.
 

Killrake

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This is very strange...I hope this game will not be ruined by cheaters.

If that is the case return the relic..if it is fair lets keep it, but keep cheaters out of the game IMO.
 

Linika

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tbh wot i do not get is y would the hibs or the albs run towards the mmg if there had relic ?


has been raking my brains since i heard of it
:confused: :confused: :confused:


maybe something akin to the old door bug, whereby you could bypass the doors if you had a different keep-layout stored locally?

^^^^^^^^ i was told u r unable to stealth with a relic in your bag

but if the mids r telling truth well done on finding it
 

Glottis

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Killrake said:
This is very strange...I hope this game will not be ruined by cheaters.

If that is the case return the relic..if it is fair lets keep it, but keep cheaters out of the game IMO.


Agree 100%.
Now give Albs the relics back.
Regards, Glottis :kissit:
 

Gorel-Truesight

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may be a stupid question but could a hib of removed it?????

thats 1 way the doors would all be up and no dead gaurds

never tried to pick up a relic in my own realms keep... any ideas?
 

freakyphil

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This is all very odd. Explanation of how relics work

If I am reading this right, the only people who could remove the relic is the albs. But they seem to be claiming no knowledge of any RR. Hibs can't remove it, nor can the mids. The fact it was 'found' in emain near DC is just plain bizzarre...

Congrats to the Mids if it was taken fair and square (the albs somehow took the relic then got jumped by mids somewhere in Emain). Otherwise if it was done by bug, cheat or the server having a brain fart I hope us hibbies get it back! ;)
 

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Camelot-Europe.com said:
Albion power relic strange behaviour.
[2004-23-01]

Good morning,

Last night, one of the relics, previously held by the realm of Hibernia, decided to act strangely and, after much confusion, ended in on of the Midgardian shrines. We are currently investigating the why's and the how's and, depending on what we find, will take a decision on what to do. We are planning to have the answer this afternoon.

http://camelot-europe.goa.com/news/newsarticle.php3?id_article=1715
 

Faeldawn

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Indeed, a hib could not have removed it unless they exploited a bug or used some sort of cheat as hibs are not allowed to remove relics from their own relic keeps (same for all realms).

Albs could as its their relic, mids could not as they dont have their own power relic.

Door abuse is out im afraid, as one of the first hibs on the scene there were no guards disturbed and you cant carry a relic while stealthed so there would have been some sort of fight. I doubt a single infili could take a full array of Relic Guards whacking them :)
 

Phule_Gubben

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Gorel-Truesight said:
may be a stupid question but could a hib of removed it?????

thats 1 way the doors would all be up and no dead gaurds

never tried to pick up a relic in my own realms keep... any ideas?

U can't pick up the relics from your own relickeep.
 

Ardamel

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A hib could not have removed it from it's shrine, however, an alb could have logged in inside the relic fort. He could've picked it up and moved a few feet away from the relic room and died, then a hib could have picked it up and moved away with the relic. This is highly unlikely though :)
 

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Ardamel said:
A hib could not have removed it from it's shrine, however, an alb could have logged in inside the relic fort. He could've picked it up and moved a few feet away from the relic room and died, then a hib could have picked it up and moved away with the relic. This is highly unlikely though :)

Unlikely though it is, it's the most viable explanation so far. In fact, I hope it is this reason and not another hack/GM account as has also been proposed. The last thing we need is passwords being changed again along with the resulting 6 weeks hassle to get back in-game (as some people claim to have experienced).

Guess we will have to await news from GOA. Hopefully they will let us know exactly what happened.
 

saks

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i dont hope that its GM account ppl got fingers on again :( Dont wanna go tru the password change hasle again :(
 

Ardamel

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Gog said:
Unlikely though it is, it's the most viable explanation so far. In fact, I hope it is this reason and not another hack/GM account as has also been proposed. The last thing we need is passwords being changed again along with the resulting 6 weeks hassle to get back in-game (as some people claim to have experienced).

Guess we will have to await news from GOA. Hopefully they will let us know exactly what happened.

I've seen something of the kind happen once after a failed rr by the albs. I was in the relic room and a rr9+ stealther logged in and picked up the relic. He died right after (1 feet from the stairs but still in the relic room) but it sure scared the hell out of the mids :)
 

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Xanthian said:
I detect some cheat'age from them Black Cuntany tbh...
Seems to be 4 or 5 different storys floating about, and Pandemongic spouting random blarb as usual.

quote me on any single thing i said about the power relic. bet u cant.

also not quite sure what BC has to do with the power relic missing we had 1fg at amg when it was found by WR and they were not near amg at the time. Feel free though to imagine it was a Black Company Workers Socialist Revolutionary Council who somehow hacked the servers and stole it.
 

anubis

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Xanthian said:
I detect some cheat'age from them Black Cuntany tbh...
Seems to be 4 or 5 different storys floating about, and Pandemongic spouting random blarb as usual.

fo, will ya?
 

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Merlins Staff

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Ladonna, myself and the other 6 in the White Rose guild group were in Odins at the time when we saw the message appear saying the relic has been removed from the Hib keep. We were like WTF and we checked /as asking to see if the Albions were in the middle of a RR and no one had a clue what was happening.

I check my other monitor and looked in to #Celticfist and it was just like in the group chat and /as chat it was all chaos. Everyone was trying to find out what happened.

Anyway Ladonna, myself and the others headed back to Svasad to check out Emain to see what was happening. We ran around for a while killing the odd person, then we moved up the hill just before the DC Valley were myself and the others saw [LA]Nuked and other Hibs attack some Midgards there. So we ran over and killed the Hibs. We stops to heal and we were about to move until I saw another group of Hibs coming over the hill so we stopped and killed them. I never saw anyone pick up a staff, but I only saw in chat that Ladonna had got the Albion Power Relic. Myself and the others were shocked to say the least, so we just get healed rebuffed and headed back to MTK to take it back to our Power Relic Keep where we dropped it off.

People say it's a bug/hack/cheat others think someone did take it and the hibs are trying to cover it up, there are tons of things going around to say what really happened. We will just see tomorrow, if it was a bug/cheat/hack the server will be rollback or the relics just placed back in the Hib Keep, but if it wasn't a bug/cheat/hack then we have just got ourselves a power relic without even breaking a sweat.
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Now this is actually true, except for the fact that <short stuff> had the staff even before that fight, so the hibs have nothing to do with the relic/staff whatever. We had just been in a fight and went to rebuff behind some hill/trees near tower/dc/sea i cant remember. I saw the staff while the others where rebuffing and i thought, hey what is this shit!? oO i tried to pick it up and looked at it. First i thought it was some kind of quest-item and tried to look at the stats... and what a crappy staff. no stats at all xD At the next stop i gave the staff to aqui (our gimp shammy ;p) so she could check it out, and it was in that very moment we got attacked by the hibs. I died and lost the staff to some1 so i dont have a clue on what happened after that point. Bug or not, that's the way the story goes... -the end-

You just gotta lub bw :>>

edit: The staff was found around loc 15,18 in dc valley. The only big question is; How the fudge did it get there? :eek2:
 

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Could it not been a bunch of stealthers ganking it fleeing with BAF and SOS ? and maby a spreadheal or two. Maby 1 or 2 camped iun room that got it out to yard on the keep befor dying. Hapened befor
 

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Jarl said:
Could it not been a bunch of stealthers ganking it fleeing with BAF and SOS ? and maby a spreadheal or two. Maby 1 or 2 camped iun room that got it out to yard on the keep befor dying. Hapened befor

I think if that happened.. those people would have bragged(sp?) about it already :)
 

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