A return night

[Ging]

Wolfmoc <3

^^ chav!

 

[Septina]

Wolfmoc <3

Wolfmocbaodbofpurgesoseveryraavailableoninc you mean? :O

 

[Elkie]

Seems like this will be a great success. xD *brings out the popcorn*
<3

You are just scared Septina of the return of the strong keen of doom! xD

Would sound like fun tbh; would return for one nights rvr on excal if some decents groups were out, which pretty much would only be maelstrom so hey why not!

 

[Septina]

You are just scared Septina of the return of the strong keen of doom! xD

Would sound like fun tbh; would return for one nights rvr on excal if some decents groups were out, which pretty much would only be maelstrom so hey why not!

Pah, Waddle smashed dem luwikeens good! Liddul luwi go smoosh!!!!11

 

[Valgyr]

I agree, its not easy, thats why its fun. We have rr5-6 average now and its really fun to see Wolfbash actually try to kite us. (I dont know if u faught their rr11 dump and push like hell grp, but if u did u´ll know that kiting isnt something they usually do.)

We were there yesterday, then we lost druid+BM due to bad connections so went to the zerg zone as 7 man grp, having problems with the 8th spot most nights atm. Hardly much point going to the 8v8 zone as 7

 

[swords]

As I said before, most of the fg guilds that rerolled have barely set foot in the fg zone. We very rarely see TT out, NFD signed up for fg zone once, met us, we killed em and they removed themselves. I have never seen TC in the fg zone. I dont know what other guilds rerolled but thats because we never see them in the fg zone. There are zergs to farm on avalon, so thats there those "fg guilds" go. The problem with Excal for most people obviously wasnt the lack of fg action, but the lack of stuff to farm for easy realmpoints.

I've had net issues for 3 weeks my little Grawen, so I don't think TT have been running without me
Hopefully i'll be back next week or something.

 

[Sollers]

As I said before, most of the fg guilds that rerolled have barely set foot in the fg zone. We very rarely see TT out, NFD signed up for fg zone once, met us, we killed em and they removed themselves. I have never seen TC in the fg zone. I dont know what other guilds rerolled but thats because we never see them in the fg zone. There are zergs to farm on avalon, so thats there those "fg guilds" go. The problem with Excal for most people obviously wasnt the lack of fg action, but the lack of stuff to farm for easy realmpoints.

Nice and cheeky post again there Grawen. Allow me to clarify it for you from our pov.

As Im sure you've experienced yourself the RR10-12 MoC groups on inc sometimes get the best of the group's morale. This doesn't mean we don't like the FG RvR or are afraid of the enemy groups, but it does sometimes mean that we don't go to the FG zone when wolfbash-dumponcinc and valheru are the only ones signed up on irc as our RR 4 tankgroup is not yet able to really give them a run for their money. We then usually try and farm some arpees off the zerg, which (trust me) is not really good fun either with a lowbie tankgroup, until groups like 'Vote 4 Love' sign on who are really great fun to fight for us. In the end though we always manage to encounter Wolfbash most with an average of 4/5 times a night.

Have no fear though, we'll stick to it and you'll be seeing more of us.

On a final note, on Excalibur we did no longer play for the arpees (yes, even though we are not even all RR11), so it was indeed the lack of fg action. But you know this Trollmeister Grawen.

 

[Calmin]

Slow Crew always spends 2 hours in FG zone before we go zerging...we dont give up even if we lose every fight to MocBash and never get to fight the easier groups because we know we're learning more than in the zerg zone.

We were there 2 hrs last night ( 3 wins thank you very much!)

Sollers dont class Valheru with Mocbash and Satorii we've beaten those guys 3 times now they're good but not in the same league as the hardest groups, if you survive the start you'll have a lot of fun fighting them.

Noaim how did you make Wolfbof kite you? We've tried loads of tactics to survive the first 30 seconds and nothings worked so far, they just have too many RAs to counter all the tactics we put into place




Back on topic: If this thing gets off the ground we now think we could make some weird set up alb group on Dyvert from accounts owned by Slow Crew members so we'll keep an eye on developments.

 

[Davejohnson]

wolfbash are mostly hard due to the 2 ml9 pets, which are very hard to kill on inc with baod up, and 3 tanks charging and sticking one caster/support each.
therefore the best tactic is basically to kite on inc, control friar and pala with roots(if purge=mez) while off-tanks stick caba and theurg and banelord dumps to keep the sorc from demezzing tanks at the front, save zone for the sure-to-come mocs on theurg and caba.
now the very best thing is to get off 2 fast roots on the ml9 pet on the very inc, even before they have time to actually pres ml9/caba rr5, but if that didnt happen this next step is a bit harder (boffing is pretty much required if pets are going in along with the tanks), assume that druid+druid or druid+bard are free at this point, then they should give the call to the off-tanks to fall back really fast, and assist with casters and bg'er on amoduus(merc), if another tank is free, you zephyr amoduus and assist on that one. the druid+bard (or whatever was free) does a ninja-offensive move and ccs the wolfbash support and casters that are charging to get in range, buying a few secs of time for the assist-train to kill their target without much hassle (the amound of seconds it takes for support to press purge), after just a few spells so you wont get in trouble at front, fall back and start aiming to shear ml9pets and the offensive tanks.
if this works out, and you kill merc/other tank/ml9 pets its time for the tanks to go back to enemy support again, when they are free from cc and yet again moving forward (your casters and bg takes care of the remaining tanks/pets at front). stick caba and theurg again, and prepare to handle their mocs with zone, nearsights, shears, dexdebuffs, zoarkat fumbles etc.
at this time, they will fire another bof/baod to make sure the moccers dont die, so the best bet here is usally to play real defensive and take care of the theurgpets, but if casters manage to stay relatively free assisting down the caba/theurg works, just tell your tanks to stick a cleric each for that purpose (the clerics never shear and such, just mashes the singleheal button)
here it is important to re-cc the ressed tanks/re-casted pets, otherwise theurgpets will 0wn j00
now if THIS also goes well then congratulations, now you are facing a rr2 group in both abilities and playstyle, and should have a decent chance to win

(when you get mocs/bofs/baods of your own it gets more fun, as you can counter-dump)

(killing merc and killing/controlling ml9 pets is as far as i can figure out the key to beat them, that is usally harder then surviving the mocs on casters..)

 

[noaim]

Slow Crew always spends 2 hours in FG zone before we go zerging...we dont give up even if we lose every fight to MocBash and never get to fight the easier groups because we know we're learning more than in the zerg zone.

We were there 2 hrs last night ( 3 wins thank you very much!)

Sollers dont class Valheru with Mocbash and Satorii we've beaten those guys 3 times now they're good but not in the same league as the hardest groups, if you survive the start you'll have a lot of fun fighting them.

Noaim how did you make Wolfbof kite you? We've tried loads of tactics to survive the first 30 seconds and nothings worked so far, they just have too many RAs to counter all the tactics we put into place




Back on topic: If this thing gets off the ground we now think we could make some weird set up alb group on Dyvert from accounts owned by Slow Crew members so we'll keep an eye on developments.

3 casters assisting on the merc while druids and bard keep friar+pally cc´d makes the merc instadie on inc every time, which in turn makes him hesitate to charge in like he usually do, which in turn makes someone else instadie on inc even easier which in turn made them end up trying to kite us. Was only for 1 fight though, next time they pushed like crazy again but still died, just gotta keep the cc´able tanks cc´d so they cant stick 1 caster each, and deal with the ml9 pets as soon as u get a chance.

 

[Calmin]

Cheers VVV . Noaim.

Its kinda like we figured, we made the mistake of trying to pull the merc / friar out the back while trying to CC the moc cabba / sorc and ML9 pets, i think basically if we get our tanks to play more defensive it could work nicely, we run hybrid set up and have struggled with the moc casters dropping our casters despite BOADing etc.

The friar CCing is a no brainer as is the ML9 pets but i think we're too slow to kite at the start and inevitably we're losing a tank or a tank and caster way too fast at the start.

Lots of good advice there for us to work with appreciate it.

Out of interest whose on which of the Legolas toons for you guys?

 

[noaim]

Cheers VVV . Noaim.

Its kinda like we figured, we made the mistake of trying to pull the merc / friar out the back while trying to CC the moc cabba / sorc and ML9 pets, i think basically if we get our tanks to play more defensive it could work nicely, we run hybrid set up and have struggled with the moc casters dropping our casters despite BOADing etc.

The friar CCing is a no brainer as is the ML9 pets but i think we're too slow to kite at the start and inevitably we're losing a tank or a tank and caster way too fast at the start.

Lots of good advice there for us to work with appreciate it.

Out of interest whose on which of the Legolas toons for you guys?

Lorfo on mentalist (Alegolaz) Lanai on eld (Blegolaz) and me on chanter (Clegolaz). And ofc Sven on bard (Bajslegolas) but thats a nobrainer (if u know swedish at least).

 

[MaditioN]

without me YOUR DOOOMED, DOOOMED I SAY!

 

[Aerendur]

For the actual thread topic. Id be up for a bit of fun on my druid, but half of the group we ran with is either not around anymore or not up for it. So If someone wants to make a PUG on return night in hib you can give me a pm or something.

About avalon fg fighting. My group is about to try the first rvr run together sometime in the next week or 2 (people had to quit due to different types of issues, replacements needed pl and gear and all).

So far I have ran as substitute for nfd1 and TT. I remember the abclegolaz group. Which was a great fight, even with the 3 subs in the group. But fighting the high RR groups out there was just near impossible with the low RR non set players setup we ran. So we tried something else.

With the set groups together we'd probably stick it out fighting fg's. But as some pointed out, you need some basic tools to fight them high RR crews. But in the end the reward will come, beating the crap out of groups with an average off 5/6 RR more.

 

[Calmin]

Lorfo on mentalist (Alegolaz) Lanai on eld (Blegolaz) and me on chanter (Clegolaz). And ofc Sven on bard (Bajslegolas) but thats a nobrainer (if u know swedish at least).

We were roaming near you in Breifine and the whole Alegolaz, Blegolaz thing finally twigged with me, guess I was being pretty slow...infact i think the death spam actually read...Alegolaz, Blegolaz, Clegolaz before i finally caught on

 

[Cromcruaich]

As I said before, most of the fg guilds that rerolled have barely set foot in the fg zone. We very rarely see TT out, NFD signed up for fg zone once, met us, we killed em and they removed themselves. I have never seen TC in the fg zone. I dont know what other guilds rerolled but thats because we never see them in the fg zone. There are zergs to farm on avalon, so thats there those "fg guilds" go. The problem with Excal for most people obviously wasnt the lack of fg action, but the lack of stuff to farm for easy realmpoints.

Dont be an arse all your life. Essentially NFD GG1 has had a lot of trouble getting out, firstly we had a char reroll that we needed to sort. Followed by people with connection problems, and finally, personnel problems. Weve been a fixed fg about twice in the last 2 months. That means weve mostly been out with people who havent got vent, without a paccer, and with under 8 men, and with people lagging like fuck all over the place.

When we're sorted and stable we'll be there, until then stop stiring shit when there is no need, just typical of the attitude that some people use, I believe its just attention seeking.

Weve been running NFD GG1 for over 3 years, for fg fights, so don't try and besmirch guild groups reputations just for a few cheap shots on FH.

 

[raid]

indeed, the couple of days I played lately, there always was deathspam from exc/pryd-rerollers in zergzone... and fg zone was empty ofc.

sure its hard, ppl quit and u need replacements, and u get farmed... but thats what happens to davejohnson etc as well, yet they keep going back for the challenge!

 

[Gahn]

indeed, the couple of days I played lately, there always was deathspam from exc/pryd-rerollers in zergzone... and fg zone was empty ofc.

sure its hard, ppl quit and u need replacements, and u get farmed... but thats what happens to davejohnson etc as well, yet they keep going back for the challenge!

How about trying to actually read what ppl write? It's not up to being farmed or whatever else that we keep losing ppl, it's about RL stuff and technical problems. And i bet u wouldn't wonder in Fg zone without any sort of cc for more than a scrap and watch wtf happening?

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Gahn/Crom&Co... If you haven't found about the shit attitude of some certain prominent FH members by now it's too late.

 

[raid]

How about trying to actually read what ppl write? It's not up to being farmed or whatever else that we keep losing ppl, it's about RL stuff and technical problems. And i bet u wouldn't wonder in Fg zone without any sort of cc for more than a scrap and watch wtf happening?

if someone cant play why not get a replacement on the missing class instead of zerging with 7ppl? thats what the ppl running in fg zone do as well ive played as replacement in some groups (usually hib, where i dont even have a character myself), and we still roamed in fg zone.

 

[Gahn]

if someone cant play why not get a replacement on the missing class instead of zerging with 7ppl? thats what the ppl running in fg zone do as well ive played as replacement in some groups (usually hib, where i dont even have a character myself), and we still roamed in fg zone.

Well Xya not running Mid anymore, another group left, we are pretty much us and TT on and not always on same days. tbh i won't get a random german understanding fuck nothing in vent just for the sake of it ^^
And zerging with 7 ppl seems a bit weird to me, more like we get zerged with 7 ppl

 

[Davejohnson]

 

[Tuthmes]

Yes lets /rant on a NFD guild group why not. Some people must be either seriously bored, or havent hade something to moan about for some time. If there's any guild you can count on on comming back after a whooping its NFD fgs

 

[Napshot]

Well Xya not running Mid anymore, another group left, we are pretty much us and TT on and not always on same days. tbh i won't get a random german understanding fuck nothing in vent just for the sake of it ^^
And zerging with 7 ppl seems a bit weird to me, more like we get zerged with 7 ppl

lol lots of the germans understand vent englih etc... but i aggree not all of em does and for some reason they all like TS more and with a 2 k + in primetime i dont think its that hard 2 find replacement atleast not for us

 

[Gahn]

lol lots of the germans understand vent englih etc... but i aggree not all of em does and for some reason they all like TS more and with a 2 k + in primetime i dont think its that hard 2 find replacement atleast not for us

Oh well my point is i rerolled to play with my friends and we are trying to set our groups to do so.. that it pretty much.

 

[Cromcruaich]

if someone cant play why not get a replacement on the missing class instead of zerging with 7ppl? thats what the ppl running in fg zone do as well ive played as replacement in some groups (usually hib, where i dont even have a character myself), and we still roamed in fg zone.

I know your just trying to goad us into coming out to fg zone, thats lovely, and if it was matter of a single replacement that would be absolutely fine. But that isnt all, except perhaps for the instance where its the paccer who cant make it.

Like I say, we'll be there when we're relatively stable and can give a proper fight. It should of been ages ago, but things are dragging on, and unfortunate stuff keeps popping up (Jupiter Grapplemeister giving us notice that he was quiting group for example ).

We dont give a shit if we lose, or at least not enough to quit like babies. Weve taken beatings all night from maelstrom and come out again and again and again.

So though its putting a bit of life into this thread and the arguments remind me of the good old days where a bit of rivalry spiced things up - just have a bit of patience, you wouldnt want a hollow victory over us would you? Ofcourse not!

 

[Cromcruaich]

Gahn/Crom&Co... If you haven't found about the shit attitude of some certain prominent FH members by now it's too late.

So true. But there only doing it coz they love us now - tough love, thats what it is.

 

[Ritchie]

Would you like to tell me where thuergs get these 2200 range pets from manisch that would be nice

and lol at the AE/CS/manisch whine in here your all as useful as staj without moc, so lets just leave it at that.

 

[Gahn]

So true. But there only doing it coz they love us now - tough love, thats what it is.

More like Strange Love oO

 

[Cromcruaich]

The whole fucking premise of this is false anyway - thats the premise that we dont want to get fg fights. So drop it for now, believe you and me, we'd be out there after fg stuff if we thought it we were viable. As soon as we are, we'll be there.

nuff said.