A Poisoned World

[Joor]

The earth is round, im serious! the earth is round!!

 

[tris-]

actually, at the end of the day just be fucking thankful you are alive and well.

its more than a lot of people have going for them these days

 

[Dallas]

I get scared when i read this too, people in here could fit exactly in to world goverments, when scientists or specialists in a field actually beg the goverment to do something about it, they only will if theres a large and present issue.

Doing something about things before they happen is unheard of!

And stop flaming joor, just dont read his threads if you have issues with behaving properly.

 

[Calaen]

good post I agree 10000%

 

[tris-]

thank you sir

 

[Calaen]

I get scared when i read this too, people in here could fit exactly in to world goverments, when scientists or specialists in a field actually beg the goverment to do something about it, they only will if theres a large and present issue.

Doing something about things before they happen is unheard of!

And stop flaming joor, just dont read his threads if you have issues with behaving properly.

not really flaming Joor tbh he is just making us away of some pointless stuff. Its kinda like me making a post about smokes being bad for you every fucker knows most people dont give a shit.

Was I to be at the end of my life I could say that I am happy with what I done, I have done things I never thought I would want to to experience the feelings/emotions.

You gotta live for today my friends, you only got one life better make it as good as you can. You gotta make sure that you can look back and laugh your arse off at some of the things you did, aswell as smile and feel emotional at some of the good times you had with friends and loved ones. No-one benefits from looking back on bad times you got to always remember the Good.

Enjoy it you dont get long.

 

[Tinu]

not really flaming Joor tbh he is just making us away of some pointless stuff. Its kinda like me making a post about smokes being bad for you every fucker knows most people dont give a shit.

Was I to be at the end of my life I could say that I am happy with what I done, I have done things I never thought I would want to to experience the feelings/emotions.

You gotta live for today my friends, you only got one life better make it as good as you can. You gotta make sure that you can look back and laugh your arse off at some of the things you did, aswell as smile and feel emotional at some of the good times you had with friends and loved ones. No-one benefits from looking back on bad times you got to always remember the Good.

Enjoy it you dont get long.

So you decide what is important to worry about and what isn't?:touch:

 

[tris-]

for him self yes. and i dont see why you should have a problem if he doesnt care about shit that doesnt matter to him?

 

[Calaen]

So you decide what is important to worry about and what isn't?:touch:

Of course I do, what a stupid comment. I am not a puppet, I have a mind of my own

 

[Benedictine]

Joor - you're just embarrassing yourself .... again.

 

[Joor]

My intention with this topic is only to inform those of you who dont know about it yet. Every boy and girl knows alcohol, tobacco and canabis etc will damaged the human body over time, it the same with aspartame.
Calaen say its pointless stuff..some might find it interesting..We still have the freedom to speech here right?

 

[Tinu]

Of course I do, what a stupid comment. I am not a puppet, I have a mind of my own

You should reread what I said. Or edit whatever the hell you did to make ur reply look like french.

 

[Calaen]

You asked me a question I gave you an answer.

 

[haarewin]

what i was going to say before i got rudely pulled away from my computer ()is that the onset of Parkinson's is incredibly young. roughly age25-40. as further degeneration is relatively slow, especially if treated with L-Dopa and decarboxylase inhibitors at the correct stage, people still live long lives with it.
what you should say is that 'Aspartame can be metabolised into a neurotoxin which may trigger neurodegenerative disorders'. Just linking a list of neurodegenerative disorders weakens your argument. Not all of those are brought on by Aspartame, and in many it doesn't even play a role. just one example from looking at it is CJD! what!? nothing to do with whether or not people drink diet coke. It's why people aren't taking you seriously.

 

[Tinu]

I'll give it a second try.
It looks to me like you think you can decide what is important to worry about and what is not.
In this case you think Joor shouldn't worry about things like this.
Now am I wrong in making this assumption?

 

[Calaen]

yes and no

While I choose what things I worry about it tends to be based on will it effect my quality of life if not I dont concern myself with it. Joor seems to worry about things which are totally out of his control and have no effect on his day to day decision making.

I have already said there is enough going on in your own life to worry about paying bills feeding the family, why bring more needless worry into your life on things that really dont concern you.

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

Joor... Oxygen is poisonous..... and quite flammable...
Water if drank a large amount enough, will remove the vitamins, minerals and salt from your body...

Everything is bad, and given time we'll all die from it but the worst ain't what you're eating or drinking....
Stress is the worst of all, and by the looks of it you're in quite some stress over all this, so you're poisoning yourself...

 

[Calaen]

Better than I could have said. Cheers

 

[lilmissnaughty]

oh mah gawd!
its just another goddamn government conspiracy goddamnit!

 

[Fana]

If life is too short to worry etc and you are all happy with how the world is atm, then why take the time to come and flame Joor for bringing up issues that he feels are important?

If ,as several of you say you think he is full of shit, and his threads arent worth reading, then dont! Its very simple. If you dont want to participate in the topic being discussed then dont!

 

[Calaen]

we are participating though, I am yet to see actual facts to back up any of his claims though.

 

[swords]

Given that the amounts of Aspartame you would need to consume to have enough methanol generated within your body, to then be converted into its toxic breakdown product in sufficient quantities to affect a significant number of nerones to have a nerotoxic effect would be quite large over a short period of time, i would probably say you would die of dehydration since fizzy soft drinks are a potent diuretic.
Its the same with Bananas and potassium, to die of a heart attack from eating Bananas your stomach would probably rupture well beforehand
Oh btw, did you know that you can increase your risk of stomach and bowel cancer from eating too much burn't meat (ie barbequed food)? I have seen a study suggesting a doubled risk for those who eat it regularly! they dont mention the chance of contracting these cancers could be a 1 in 100 chance...so doubled it becomes 2 in 100! oh sweet jesus we're all going to die! And again you'd have to consistantly eat BBQ food for a long period of time for this risk to manipulate itself and i hardily see our Aussie friends (well known for BBQing) keeling over in great swaths.

Please for the love of god take things reported from scientific publications with a pinch of salt, statistics can be made to sound terrifying (ie double risk of xxx) yet in reality if you are subjective the risk is a very tiny increase. Also for the most part these publications are done so because they either show something new and interesting, something anomylous or contradictory to previous work (instigating scientific debate on a subject, such as the MMR jab paper which became a media fiasco) or something which may strongly reinforce previous work or confirm a link between multiple sources of information tidying the whole thing up.

One last thing, if you are realy worried about your intake of Methanol there is a simple solution, Ethanol inhibits the metabolism of Methanol so drink booze, plenty of booze! BOOOOOOOOOOZE!

 

[Rinusch]

What most people forget is that the regulations on ingestion of Aspartame are crudely surpassed, people nowdays buy eat and drink anything that says "No sugar, fat or other semi-lethal stuff", in past years the ammount of aspartame ingestion has geartly increased while nobody thoroughly investigated the longterm effects of it. that together with the information passed on above should make the hairs in ur neck rise a bit.

on the other hand, on an anually basis loads of people die of the effects caused by sugar.

im not saying "dont touch it" but untill it is completely clear what aspartame can do to the human body you might want to be a wee bit carefull

 

[old.Tohtori]

Ok, ok. There are things in chips and soft drinks that are cancer causing and such.

Checked it with a friend.

We also calculated how many chips you'd have to eat and how many bottles(1.5 litre) of pepsi max you'd have to drink to get the amount of [insert several nasty toxins here] that you'd get from one cigarette.

So, you can:

A: Smoke one cigarette.
B: Eat 50 kilograms of chips.
C: Drink 12 1.5 litre bottles of pepsi max.

So yes, there are "bad stuff" in them, but it's such a pisstake of a hazard that even wanking is more harmful to your health because of all the lack of air at times. you know, gasp gasp etc.

 

[pip]

Ever heard about Aspartame ?
Aspartame is the name for an artificial, non-carbohydrate sweetener.
It is commonly used in diet soft drinks, and is often provided as a table condiment
Aspartame’s attractiveness as a sweetener comes from the fact that it is approximately 180 times sweeter than sugar in typical concentrations without the high energy value of sugar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Aspartame was not approved until 1981, in dry foods. For over eight years the FDA refused to approve it because of the seizures and brain tumors this drug produced in lab animals. The FDA continued to refuse to approve it until President Reagan(a friend of Searle) took office and fired the FDA Commissioner who wouldn't approve it. Dr. Arthur Hull Hayes was appointed as commissioner. Even then there was so much opposition to approval that a Board of Inquiry was set up. The Board said: "Do not approve aspartame". Dr. Hayes OVERRULED his own Board of Inquiry.

Shortly after Commissioner Arthur Hull Hayes, Jr., approved the use of aspartame in carbonated beverages, he left for a position with G.D. Searle's Public Relations firm.

In a 1993 the FDA approved aspartame as an ingredient in numerous food items that would always be heated to above 30°Degrees C.
Much worse, on 27 June 1996, without public notice, the FDA removed all restrictions from aspartame allowing it to be used in everything, including all heated and baked goods.

Approximately 10% of aspartame is broken down into methanol in the small intestine. The absorption of methanol into the body is speed up considerably when free methanol is ingested. Free methanol is created from aspartame when it is heated to above 30°Degrees C..
Methanol breaks down into formic acid and formaldehyde in the body. Formaldehyde is a deadly neurotoxin!. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde )

Im sure you all remember The troops of Desert Storm, they were "treated" to large amounts of aspartame-sweetened beverages which had been heated to over 30° in the Saudi Arabian sun. Many of them returned home with numerous disorders similar to what has been seen in persons who have been chemically poisoned by formaldehyde.

The fact remains, though, that MOST victims don't have a clue that aspartame may be the cause of their many problems!
A few reactions included here submitted by FDA
http://www.presidiotex.com/aspartame/Facts/92_Symptoms/92_symptoms.gif
Anxiety attacks
Asthmatic Reactions
Chest Pains
Diabetes and Diabetic Complications
Depression
Epilepsy
Hypertension
Insomnia
Irritability
Memory loss
Rapid Heart Beat
Vision Loss

How it happens:
Methanol, from aspartame, is released in the small intestine when the methyl group of aspartame encounters the enzyme chymotrypsin.
Free methanol begins to form in liquid aspartame-containing products at temperatures above 30°.. also within the human body.
The methanol is then converted to formaldehyde. The formaldehyde converts to formic acid, ant sting poison. Toxic formic acid is used as an activator to strip epoxy and urethane coatings. Imagine what it does to your tissues!
Phenylalanine and aspartic acid, 90% of aspartame, are amino acids normally used in synthesis of protoplasm when supplied by the foods we eat. But when unaccompanied by other amino acids we use (there are 20), they are neurotoxic.
That is why a warning for Phenylketonurics is found on EQUAL and other aspartame products.
Components of aspartame go straight to the brain, damage that causes headaches, mental confusion, seizures and faulty balance. Lab rats and other test animals died of brain tumors.

Here is a documentary "Sweet Misery", Interviews with doctors, lawyers, people who have had health problems which they associate with aspartame usage, advocates, and many others. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1871783678882092937&q=aspartame

Aspartame is an "approved sweetener" because of a few greedy and dishonest people who place profits above human life and well-being.
If you are a user of aspartame, and you have physical, visual, mental problems... take the 30-day no aspartame test. If your symptoms are either gone, or are much less severe, please get involved to get this neurotoxin off the market.

dam hope they not put that in beer

 

[haarewin]

i could prolly drink that much pepsi max :/

 

[haarewin]

dam hope they not put that in beer

haha
no
beer is made from real sugar, as thats how it is metabolised into ethanol by yeast.
yes, beer is the waste product of a yeast. still want it?

 

[pip]

haha
no
beer is made from real sugar, as thats how it is metabolised into ethanol by yeast.
yes, beer is the waste product of a yeast. still want it?

yes plz

 

[Phooka]

haha
no
beer is made from real sugar, as thats how it is metabolised into ethanol by yeast.
yes, beer is the waste product of a yeast. still want it?

as with junky''s they yearn for the waste of cocain...
Crack anyone?

 

[Bugz]

They're in many of the Sunny D's

But Sunny D is the great stuff kids go for...