A few server suggestions ?

[throdgrain]

Just a couple of things, but I wonder if it would be possible, firstly, to limit the number of snipers on the Search and Destroy servers, as its becoming boring sometimes. A maximum of 2 would be nice.
I imagine almost all of the people who have played this game would agree to that, however on a personal level could we do you think also limit the round time to maybe 10 rounds ? Sometimes it drags on a bit and this would keep peoples enthusiasm up. The server command is scr_sd_roundlimit 10 , i believe.
Dunno quite who is the admin for this game, so speak up whoever you are !

 

[Chameleon]

Aye, 2 snipers per team is more than enough and certainly more in keeping with realism.
Also, can someone explain how public admins are appointed, because tbh the game.net preview servers are in desperate need of some regular users who have at least some /rcon abilities.

 

[throdgrain]

I dont want to annoy anyone here, but it seems to be its just the first person to fill in an online application form
It took me a couple of years before I was a cs admin, playing on the servers all the time. Everyone knows me and I suppose Im known for being fair honest etc . thus I get the job.
maybe people dont expect that kind of longivity in newer games , I dunno.

 

[mike-c]

CAC (JBP) and myself have forum mod privs, and from convos on IRC I would assume that we are in thr running for admin status, although have not heard anything concrete yet.

As far as the servers go, once (if) we get rcon/server access you can rest assured they will be set up nicely.

However game admins don't get access to the preview servers, so while we can probably make suggestions (indeed I already did), we won't be able to actually change them.

 

[bigfoot]

I'm appointing MikeC and JBP (CAC on these forums) as GM's, they both appear to be interested in doing it and have previous experience from other games. We'll see how it goes after that with regards to recruiting other people who play on the preview servers a lot.

They will be able to change stuff on the preview server although they will not have direct access.

More news to follow...

 

[throdgrain]

I have access to the Counter-Stike preview server, so I would assume if you ask you will get it for the CoD one m8

 

[Embattle]

There are only a few maps that really turn utter crap with snipers although I do find it fun sometimes to try and get to them before they notice me

 

[Chameleon]

My point being bif, throd is a cs admin, I was the q3 GM. There are others in this thread and other cod threads who are known to be long standing members of the bw/game community, honest, fair, etc and while the cod servers are setup ok, they really *need* public admins who can ...... admin them on an adhoc basis. You can concentrate the administration functions too much (as in q3) and the servers don't get maintained, as you cant rely on someone to be on the servers the vast majority of the time. Still, I'm sure MikeC and JBP will do a good job ..... but I think you need more people with less on their shoulders than too few with too much to do.

 

[jo.]

Arg, I like sniping !
A limit would just make me cry while I watch one of our snipers rambo using a Panzerfaust as their primary weapon, and the other one be AFK at the spawn.

 

[throdgrain]

Sniping is ok within reason, but it ruins the game when say, the british are all snipers and are refusing to attempt to plant the bomb.
Then you end up with 1 axis afk at spawn, and 5 idiot snipers stuck up trees for 3 minutes or so. Ruins the game.
Chameleon is right anyway BigFoot, you need people on the servers. Im a DoD GM as well as a CS admin btw, but DoD simply does not exist in any form on GAME.NET, so im not what you'd called pushed
At the moment Im playing Call of Duty a lot, and Id be happy to help admin the CoD S&D server, if asked that is .

 

[Cpt. Paranoia]

Originally posted by throdgrain
Sniping is ok within reason, but it ruins the game when say, the british are all snipers and are refusing to attempt to plant the bomb.
Then you end up with 1 axis afk at spawn, and 5 idiot snipers stuck up trees for 3 minutes or so. Ruins the game.

Just like t'other night :/

True though, there needs to be a limit on number of snipers and rounds need to be shorter.

 

[bigfoot]

Cham may be right, he may not be, that will be up to MikeC and JBP to decide.

I'm certainly not going to give out GM positions to someone ahead of others when that someone seeks to criticise us constantly in other forums.

 

[throdgrain]

Who's that then ?

*confused*

Edit

Neither am I bothered who does it, but it would be good if someone did. To my (admittedly limited) knowledge there hasnt been a admin on the preview server in all the time ive played there.
What I have seen however, is a lot of good people I know, like Rubber Bullets Chameleon and others, all who have made playing there good fun, and a lot like things were when the name barrysworld was around.
Which is a Good Thing imo

 

[Embattle]

Seems like a bad case of making a mountain out of a mole hill....IMO.

 

[Yoni]

Originally posted by Chameleon
My point being bif, throd is a cs admin, I was the q3 GM. Still, I'm sure MikeC and JBP will do a good job ..... but I think you need more people with less on their shoulders than too few with too much to do.

1] Both of the above have been admins for previous games both at one time or another admined for me and were exceptionally dependable.

2] I know that servers run by MikeC are a good place to play as he used to admin not only for game.net but for another gsp (no longer with us)

3] They are both long standing members of the barrysworld / game.net community. Not as "vocal" as some but never the less part of all this.

Give them a chance before you slate them oh and please join #game.cod. I have noticed that the channel is a bit low on long standing members of the community.

 

[Chameleon]

Originally posted by bigfoot
Cham may be right, he may not be, that will be up to MikeC and JBP to decide.

I'm certainly not going to give out GM positions to someone ahead of others when that someone seeks to criticise us constantly in other forums.

First I didn't ask for GM, period.
Second, wtf? I can only assume you are not referring to me, or have gone mental?

 

[Chameleon]

Originally posted by Y0ni
1] Both of the above have been admins for previous games both at one time or another admined for me and were exceptionally dependable.

2] I know that servers run by MikeC are a good place to play as he used to admin not only for game.net but for another gsp (no longer with us)

3] They are both long standing members of the barrysworld / game.net community. Not as "vocal" as some but never the less part of all this.

Give them a chance before you slate them oh and please join #game.cod. I have noticed that the channel is a bit low on long standing members of the community.

I haven't slated either MikeC or JBP. Did you misread something maybe? I'm sure they have done and will do a great job. As said already, I have been GM and have a good idea of what is required for a game and suggest the responsibility is spread out to relieve pressure. That's my point. I thought I made it clear, but obviously not.
Personally I don't like irc much, as people simply idle there, which imo is pointless. Will see you on the servers tho.
Hmm what with bif's post too, I feel like I've entered the twighlight zone, or people have been doing some serious drinking early doors today.

 

[mike-c]

ok i have little or no idea what the majority of the coments here are on about...

I suggest we just leave this thread be, and wait to see how the servers turn out.

Constructive critisism will be welcomed, so long as it doesn't turn into a lets-have-a-go session.

 

[Cdr]

Originally posted by Y0ni
a chance before you slate them oh and please join #game.cod. I have noticed that the channel is a bit low on long standing members of the community.

heh, I'll do you a swap, I'll idle in #game.cod and you idle in #game.bf1942

 

[Chameleon]

Originally posted by mike-c
ok i have little or no idea what the majority of the coments here are on about...

I suggest we just leave this thread be, and wait to see how the servers turn out.

Constructive critisism will be welcomed, so long as it doesn't turn into a lets-have-a-go session.

Ah thank you, some sanity
I think basically to sum up, a limit of snipers would be nice, 10 round max limit and more public admins on the servers.

 

[throdgrain]

Originally posted by Chameleon
Ah thank you, some sanity
I think basically to sum up, a limit of snipers would be nice, 10 round max limit and more public admins on the servers.

LOl indeed, thats all we was asking for ...

 

[mike-c]

Right well there is no way to limit the number of people using snipers (without a mod at least)

What can be done is to disable the sniper rifles completely, or just for one side, so perhaps the attacking side isn't allowed them, but the defenders are.

This could be acheived using an advanced config file that set the vars correctly for each map (some allies attack, others axis do)

The roundlimit is easy enough, but we will look into exact limits when we come to set them up.

 

[Cpt. Paranoia]

Originally posted by mike-c
What can be done is to disable the sniper rifles completely, or just for one side, so perhaps the attacking side isn't allowed them, but the defenders are.

Personally I don't like that idea and although I hate teams full of snipers, it's better than getting slapped constantly by a team full of snipers

 

[mike-c]

I'm against it myself, was just throwing ideas around

I can see how it could get annoying, but remember there are 2 objectives. If one is camped by snipers, go take the other one.

 

[doh_boy]

There is one map (dunno its name but it's very snowy). Which basically is heaven for snipers. There is a hill behind which the allies spawn and a hill infront of that which the axis spawn (well near it anyway). From the bunker on the hill you can cover most of the allied hill. The only way around it 1) right hand side and hope there isn't a sniper further back (usually is) or run very quickly to the left and hope the sniper misses.

 

[mike-c]

mp_hurtgen is the biggest sniping map, followed by mp_rocket

Personally I've found the best way to counter snipers is to snipe yourself.

This doesn't mean you can't move, just have a sniper rifle on you and run as fast as poss (equip pistol to go faster). Chances are they will miss the first time, and you can generally tell where they are from one shot (I normally can anyway), so find some cover, equip sniper, kill em, and continue.

 

[doh_boy]

I know that's what I did the only time I used that map but I don't like the way then it turns into everyone's a sniper. I don't mind a map being heavily sniper oriented, just it would be nice if there was some hiding places.

 

[mike-c]

Well I'd suggest we see how it goes.

People may agree about this sniper issue and start using other weapons, but it would need some sort of consensus.

If it becomes a problem and nobody is enjoying it or it stops the objectives being captured at all, then we may think about removing mp_hurtgen from the SD server.

 

[throdgrain]

Got to be said, Id rather both teams had unlimited snipers than one team none at all .
The answer is certainly to snipe yourself by the way. Last night I was playing on a game.net clan server, as there was no one on the preview server and I just aint playing TDM ! Anyway, the map was hurtgern, and the axis (me) were getting sniped to hell.
I bought a scoped Kar, and legged it quickly into position, just before the allied snipers arrived at theirs. So there I was waiting in one of those trenches on the right as they popped thier heads up to snipe, and bang, no head Wait for a bit, only 1 or 2 allies left, obviously hiding at the back. Move forwards slowly, and look up at the trees, there's the idiot watching axis spawn for an easy kill no doubt .
I would suggest max rounds 10 if you can do that mike-c, then at least if its a map you dont like it doesnt go on forever !
Thanks for the input btw m8

 

[mike-c]

10 rounds seems like an awful lot to me, although admittedly I haven't played that much SD or RE in CoD.

My clanserver's CoD configs have 3 rounds of 8 minutes. Personally I hate doing the same round over and over, I'd much prefer the maps to rotate fairly quickly, so as not to bore people.

I'll discuss it with JBP and see what we think.