Raven
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I went to the 7s at Twickenham a couple of years ago. It's absolute carnage there. I was absolutely off my tits by about 3 in the afternoon.
Yeah, it's great fun.
I went to the 7s at Twickenham a couple of years ago. It's absolute carnage there. I was absolutely off my tits by about 3 in the afternoon.
some turnaround against a very good teamMassive comeback!
she said (in a related article) said:Biles, 24, scored 13.766 - her lowest Olympic vault score - before withdrawing from the event.
After the performance I did, I just didn't want to go on.
I have to focus on my mental health. I just think mental health is more prevalent in sports right now. We have to protect our minds and our bodies and not just go out and do what the world wants us to do. "I don't trust myself as much anymore. Maybe it's getting older. There were a couple of days when everybody tweets you and you feel the weight of the world. We're not just athletes. We're people at the end of the day and sometimes you just have to step back.I didn't want to go out and do something stupid and get hurt. I feel like a lot of athletes speaking up has really helped.
Tokyo Olympics: Simone Biles out of individual all-around final
American gymnast and four-time Olympic gold medallist Simone Biles withdraws from the individual all-around final Tokyo Olympics.www.bbc.co.uk
So, on the verge of medals this person's withdrawing from the competition. She's being praised for "prioritising her mental health".
I find this a little bit bullshit tbh.
It's not just her. It's a few people withdrawing when the pressure is greatest citing mental health.
But we're praising quitters. Which might be the thing to do in this new touchy-feely "the most important thing is that nobody should feel bad ever" world we've created - but at the end of the day, if people walk away when the pressure is on that's failure. Especially in a sporting context.
I feel for the girl - and that's genuine - but she's a quitter. Plain and simple. Couldn't take the pressure and dropped out and, importantly, has taken the place of someone who might have been able to see it through to the end for better or worse - so I feel for them too as they've had their chance taken by someone who didn't follow through when the going got tough.
Might sound harsh. But...
Read the post. I absolutely feel for the girl. If it was in any standard walk of life then there wouldn't be anything to post about."Man who doesn't understand the meaning of the word Empathy thinks 4 time Olympic gold medalist pulling out of a competition on the grounds of poor mental health is a quitter. More to come at 10".
The Gary Speed reference is a bit reductio ad absurdum don't you think? Not being able to handle the pressure of a sporting event doesn't mean you're automatically a suicide risk. (In fact, I'd argue that what's more likely is that she's going to look back at her quitting and potentially be haunted by it - so hopefully that doesn't cause her inordinate pain for the rest of her life).People absolutely should be praised for putting their mental health ahead of anything else when the eyes of the world are on you. She is being praised because it would've been extremely hard for her to do. It's clear her mental health wasn't quite right leading up to the games but I expect she was under pressure to compete because of who she is.
I'd take a million quitters over one Gary Speed who had to suffer in silence and ended up topping himself.
Completely agree. I can't imagine the pressures.
But then I don't have to. That's part of their job description - to be both physically and mentally fit to win. And we praise the winners, not praise those who quit.
The Gary Speed reference is a bit reductio ad absurdum don't you think?
I kind of feel like Scouse on this one, it isn't that I don't feel for her but seriously don't make a song and dance about it as if it is something special you've done compared to anyone else who suffers metal issues. I also can't help but feel that some of that pressure she put on herself, there seemed to be quite a few videos pre Olympics doing all these amazing gymnastics.
I saw you called me obtuse before changing your post. Obtuse, which in this context means " lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect ".Completely agree, but you still want to put your shit opinion about it forward. OK.
I saw you called me obtuse before changing your post. Obtuse, which in this context means " lacking sharpness or quickness of sensibility or intellect ".
I can both sympathise with the girl as per that tweet AND realise the cold hard facts that she quit and that's not an achievement but a failure.
I'd turn the accusation of being obtuse around - because you seem to lack the ability that I can hold both things in my head - that I 100% feel for her, despite her failure.
I fully understand it, but what I don't understand is why someone would feel the need to make a post on a forum pointing out what a fucking failure this struggling young woman is.
At least Embattle is on your side though, so you've got that going for you.
Ah, I see. Your overly emo nature interferes with your english comprehension skills.I fully understand it, but what I don't understand is why someone would feel the need to make a post on a forum pointing out what a fucking failure this struggling young woman is.
At least Embattle is on your side though, so you've got that going for you.
edit - just to clarify, what a fucking failure this 24 year old 4 time olympic gold medalist is.
Ah, I see. Your overly emo nature interferes with your english comprehension skills.
Your representation of my post reflects your emotional OUTRAGE very well but doesn't represent the thrust of my argument at all.
Hey ho
Would you say that to her face?
If not, why do you feel the need to post on a forum about it?
"Hi Simone, nice yo meet you. By the way, you're a complete failure for pulling out of the olympics."
I don't say anything on the forum I wouldn't say to someone's face and no one said she was a complete failure...dickhead
There's lots of things you don't say to people's faces. Are you insane? Measuring what is acceptable discussion by what you'd say directly to some one is retarded.Would you say that to her face?
This tweet sums him up quite nicely:Piers Morgan agrees with Scouse and Embattle as well, and has been very quick to tell everyone about it. This is the same man who stormed off set after receiving around 15 seconds of criticism from a co-host.
You're KING emo, so I was surprised you hadn't jumped harderFucks sake @Scouse moving to Wales really has turned you into a boomer.
You're KING emo, so I was surprised you hadn't jumped harder
I feel for her. You did actually read that in my first post, which was at pains to point that out multiple times.
But there is a thing nowadays where you can't point out failure without people getting pissy and butthurt.