Werewolf #2 2011 - Game Thread.

[Olgaline]

I choose chosen....




Oh come on, someone had to say it.

 

[Cerb]

Did anyone else just hear 2 drums and a cymbal fall from somewhere?

Anyways I was just reading back through the thread and you know what freaks me out abit....this "Special" person....what is that? Oo

 

[Ch3tan]

I thought you pointed to the ones of us who have had WW past in our family!

I didn't.

Seeing that you failed to remember what you wrote, kinda makes me think you fabricated it yourself. imo, you are already trying to hard to put the blame on other people!

Is this a tactic of the wolves?

How have I failed to remember what I wrote? Please quote where I said what I have denied?

Well, it is more the
other way around. Him accusing me of getting things wrongly, when it is clearly the other way around. So my question is, did he "pretend" not to remember what he himself said, so that he could turn it against me?

You've dug yourself a hole you can't climb out of, what an idiot.

 

[Olgaline]

Your mean!

I dont think your a nice man....booooh mr. Boooooh

 

[Mabs]

looks like chosen is failing the popularity contest

is it worth flambeeing him, as an easy option..
or is he drawing too much fire, and being far too unsubtle ? would a wolf be that... abrasive?

dunno

 

[Chosen]

looks like chosen is failing the popularity contest

is it worth flambeeing him, as an easy option..
or is he drawing too much fire, and being far too unsubtle ? would a wolf be that... abrasive?

dunno

Nothing better then trying to fire a villager up, to see if they "step" wrongly. Which might give us a hint of their role in this little village!

I am not up for a popularity contest here, I want to find the flesheating scumbags! So that me and my children can go to bed safely.

 

[Mabs]

Nothing better then trying to fire a villager up, to see if they "step" wrongly. Which might give us a hint of their role in this little village!

I am not up for a popularity contest here, I want to find the flesheating scumbags! So that me and my children can go to bed safely.

all your doing is drawing fire though
your either a very good double bluffer.. or rather silly....

 

[Chosen]

all your doing is drawing fire though
your either a very good double bluffer.. or rather silly....

Usual trait of a WW is beeing aggressive. Which is why I am trying to draw fire! To see if there is something here, or if something is beeing held back.

 

[Cerb]

Usual trait of a WW is beeing aggressive. Which is why I am trying to draw fire! To see if there is something here, or if something is beeing held back.

I get that you say you're using it as a tactic to draw stuff out of people, but to us it just looks suspicious!

 

[gohan]

Nothing better then trying to fire a villager up, to see if they "step" wrongly. Which might give us a hint of their role in this little village!

I am not up for a popularity contest here, I want to find the flesheating scumbags! So that me and my children can go to bed safely.

so are you not a villager? your post say's a villager as if that's somthing other than you

 

[Chosen]

so are you not a villager? your post say's a villager as if that's somthing other than you

Well, we are all villagers. Seeing that we all live in this village, but some of us are villagers with special abilitys!

Even the werewolves are hiding under the identity of a villager.

But if you're question is towards me beeing a villager with a special ability! Then my answer will be: I can say for certain that I am not a werewolf, but I wont risk saying if I am a special one or a commoner. As it might place me and my family in a dangerous spot

 

[Ch3tan]

Usual trait of a WW is beeing aggressive. Which is why I am trying to draw fire! To see if there is something here, or if something is beeing held back.

So your tactic is lying, accusing me of lying then failing to provide evidence? You are an idiot. You should probably burn just to save the rest of us from your bullshit.

 

[Chosen]

So your tactic is lying, accusing me of lying then failing to provide evidence? You are an idiot. You should probably burn just to save the rest of us from your bullshit.

Did I hurt you that much, that you have to tend to insulting? My tactic is to get something going on in here, rather then rable about butterflies.

Vote: Ch3tan - Seeing how aggressive and insulted he felt of me accusing him for something, kinda makes me think he is one of them!

 

[Jimmy]

wow i go and tend to my shop and you all start to go at each other. first thing tho

syd cock off

a no vote is daft on first day gives wolfs a free kill not great idea but on the flip side we kill wrong person today we have two dead innocent people more not great plan....... sooooo we need to pick wise for the first day need to look at who has come out defending already, who looks guilty.....honestly.... i cant chose right now.

 

[Rubric]

Not sure what to think so far. Chosen and chet going at other, but undecided on motives as yet.

 

[Ch3tan]

Chosen, you are still refusing to admit you lied or provide proof that I've said what you claimed. Instead you have insinuated that aggressive behaviour is linked with being a wolf and claimed I am being agrresive.

I'd like everyone to review the last few pages and note that chosen has not answered any of my challenges to his claims. Frankly a no vote is akways the best option on the first night, but I'm having a hard time overlooking chosen's lies, spin and faulty logic.

 

[Ch3tan]

Vote: Ch3tan - Seeing how aggressive and insulted he felt of me accusing him for something, kinda makes me think he is one of them!

Because you accused me of saying something that only occured in your imagination, you sir are a bafoon.

 

[gohan]

C Frankly a no vote is akways the best option on the first night

in what way? I've always found a no vote gives next to no clues and means the wolfs get a kill and the next day we're no futher foward

 

[Ch3tan]

We've had 6 pages of clues. The likely hood of killing a wolf, villager, or special villager is equal right now. That is not good odds. Then we have our one unknown. A wolf kill on the first day is sheer luck, and still gives no clues, the likely hood of taking out a seer, nurse, sheriff or normal villager is higher.

A no vote gives the wolves no numerical advantage going into the first night, so we are only at worse 1 down tomorrow morning.

It's the safest bet.

However as I said, Chosen makes no sense, although would a wolf really be that stupid?

 

[Chosen]

I thought you pointed to the ones of us who have had WW past in our family!

I already answered you're question, but you are probably to unfocused to see that. And as I said, I wanted to create a reaction to see how you actually responded to the claims of beeing a wolf.


As Gohan said, not doing anything the first day at all. Will only benefit the wolfs! We have to take our chances even tho it might risking taking out a civilian.
A good thing with this, is if we vote for a special role(Nurse/seer/sheriff). Then that person will most likely come out and admit what role he/she has. And if noone else claims this, it should be the real deal! And we can withdraw our votes.
With both a sheriff and the nurse, either one of them can protect eachother when the night comes. To make sure that the wolf does not kill one of our special classes.
If we don't do anything risky at all, it ends up like Gohan said! The wolfies kill one of our citizens, and we are back at square one.




We can look at it like this:

1: We dont vote at all, wolfies kill one of us.(if we are not lucky with our 2 protectors).

2: We votekill a normal citizen(lets assume a special class would step forward before it goes to hanging.) and the wolfies kill one of us.(again only if we are not lucky with our locking up/protecting)

3: We votekill a wolf(our definitive best scenario). And the two others might kill one of us(again we might be lucky, and this time we will only have two of them to be considerate of).



Anyway, with option 2 and 3(where 3 is the best) we might learn some patterns which helps us resolve how the wolfs act later in the game.

 

[Chosen]

And if we do stick to number 1, we will just be as far into knowing who the wolves is as we are now! So one day we will have to take a chance anyway, so why not start now?

 

[Ch3tan]

but but but, it's always you


you Gohan and Rubric - the wolfpack!

Ceixah NOT Ch3tan associating past lives with current ones.

baseless accusations on the first day, who would have thunk it....with the number of specials/wolfies this has got to be a careful decisions.

There is baseless, and then there is planting the seeds of doubt by naming people and trying to associate them with past failings of their ancestors. It's a fine line, and I'd be looking closely at anyone who fabricates things, or tries to plant early.

If you take a look back, you'll see a few of these less than harmless suggestions.

Me, asking Ceixah to not associate our past lives / ancestors with what we do now.

I know that my grandfather got cought beeing a WW ch3t. But I swear to God, that my task and life mission is to hunt them all down.

I can't describe how much I hate him, seeing how he ruined our familys reputation, which we are struggling to build up this day today!

Erm, you what now?

Why are you tring to justify your family past to me? I have not once mentioned it. The only thing I said to you is that you are wrong about the sheriff. Ceixah is the one mentioning the past, not me. I find it strange you trying so hard and getting things wrong consistently.

Chosen claiming I did what Ceixah did, I even point out that it was Ceixah who said this, not me.

I thought you pointed to the ones of us who have had WW past in our family!

He thought I did it, he's not sure.

Seeing that you failed to remember what you wrote, kinda makes me think you fabricated it yourself. imo, you are already trying to hard to put the blame on other people!

Is this a tactic of the wolves?

Now he is accusing me of fabricating a lie, when it's he who is trying to claim something that never happened.

Well, it is more the other way around. Him accusing me of getting things wrongly, when it is clearly the other way around. So my question is, did he "pretend" not to remember what he himself said, so that he could turn it against me?

See above, what exactly is Chosen talking about? Still no proof from him about what I've allegedly said.

I didn't.


How have I failed to remember what I wrote? Please quote where I said what I have denied?


You've dug yourself a hole you can't climb out of, what an idiot.

^ Click the quote above to go to my original post which answer Chosen's quotes. I ask him here to quote what he's alleged I've said.

Nothing better then trying to fire a villager up, to see if they "step" wrongly. Which might give us a hint of their role in this little village!

I am not up for a popularity contest here, I want to find the flesheating scumbags! So that me and my children can go to bed safely.

Usual trait of a WW is beeing aggressive. Which is why I am trying to draw fire! To see if there is something here, or if something is beeing held back.

Did I hurt you that much, that you have to tend to insulting? My tactic is to get something going on in here, rather then rable about butterflies.

Vote: Ch3tan - Seeing how aggressive and insulted he felt of me accusing him for something, kinda makes me think he is one of them!

These three posts since I ask him for a quote to prove his lie directly attack me, and insinuate I am a wolf. He confuses logic for aggression, because his small mind cannot cope.

Because you accused me of saying something that only occured in your imagination, you sir are a bafoon.

I already answered you're question, but you are probably to unfocused to see that. And as I said, I wanted to create a reaction to see how you actually responded to the claims of beeing a wolf.


As Gohan said, not doing anything the first day at all. Will only benefit the wolfs! We have to take our chances even tho it might risking taking out a civilian.
A good thing with this, is if we vote for a special role(Nurse/seer/sheriff). Then that person will most likely come out and admit what role he/she has. And if noone else claims this, it should be the real deal! And we can withdraw our votes.
With both a sheriff and the nurse, either one of them can protect eachother when the night comes. To make sure that the wolf does not kill one of our special classes.
If we don't do anything risky at all, it ends up like Gohan said! The wolfies kill one of our citizens, and we are back at square one.




We can look at it like this:

1: We dont vote at all, wolfies kill one of us.(if we are not lucky with our 2 protectors).

2: We votekill a normal citizen(lets assume a special class would step forward before it goes to hanging.) and the wolfies kill one of us.(again only if we are not lucky with our locking up/protecting)

3: We votekill a wolf(our definitive best scenario). And the two others might kill one of us(again we might be lucky, and this time we will only have two of them to be considerate of).



Anyway, with option 2 and 3(where 3 is the best) we might learn some patterns which helps us resolve how the wolfs act later in the game.

Now this last post is pure gold. Gold. It's value just keeps increasing the longer you read it. Let's start with him answering my question... well, no, he hasn't. What he has done is quote an assumption he made, with no proof of the lies he has accused me of, nor the posts he alleges I made. What is worse is that he refutes his own assumption in the two posts after he made it. He goes from "I thought you pointed to"(post 51) to "Seeing that you failed to remember what you wrote, kinda makes me think you fabricated it yourself. imo, you are already trying to hard to put the blame on other people!"(post 53). First he only thinks I've done something, and then he is accusing me of fabricating things?

Now let's look at his anti no vote logic.

How will not doing anything the first day benefit only the wolves? Oh that is right, by potentially exposing a village special on the first day. That's always helpful that is, telling the wolves who will be protected if the seer is exposed, leaving them a free kill, leaving them the same if the nurse or sheriff is exposed.

I understand the fear of doing nothing, but doing something is statistically more likely to fuck us over.

I actually cannot believe Chosen is stupid enough to want special villager roles to come forward on the first day.

The worse thing for me is, Chosen has been so illogical, that killing him would probably gain nothing. As no wolf pack would be stupid enough to try and save him if he were a wolf. However, alarm bells ring when people tell lies. What possible reason is there for a villager to tell lies?

 

[Ch3tan]

And I don't have to mention I hope that we have an unknown element in the village?

We don't know what this person or thing could do, where it's loyalties lie or what it's goals are. As it's more likely that a good guy will die in a lynch today, we would only potentially further the wolves or this other specials cause with a lynch. Remember that when looking at those calling for blood.

 

[Chosen]

You are still so mindblocked that you actually avoided the things I've said twice already?

"And as I said, I wanted to create a reaction to see how you actually responded to the claims of beeing a wolf"(by me)

We wont get anywhere by talking about buttlerflies or how nice weather it is. I created myself a suspect(in this case you), to see how you reacted. Only way to figure some patterns out early on in this village, is to create reactions! And that is what I got right now

 

[Ch3tan]

You are still so mindblocked that you actually avoided the things I've said twice already?

"And as I said, I wanted to create a reaction to see how you actually responded to the claims of beeing a wolf"(by me)

We wont get anywhere by talking about buttlerflies or how nice weather it is. I created myself a suspect(in this case you), to see how you reacted. Only way to figure some patterns out early on in this village, is to create reactions! And that is what I got right now

You've said butterflies twice. You wanted to get a reaction? So your excuse for lying and fabricating what I've said is just for a reaction?

What reaction were you hoping for? You hadn't accused me of being a wolf until after you realised you had fucked up.

There is no excuse in the environment we are in for trying to lie about what someone else has said. Unless you are trying to get them killed.

 

[Ch3tan]

Others can judge, I've said enough on this, and the evidence is in the town records for all to see. By the way, you've now answered my question for proof with two different quotes. Both of which say different things. IDIOT.

 

[Mabs]

while i think burning him might be a tad extreme, might i suggest someone scry Chosen if he survives the day

 

[Cerb]

I do think he has been playing a much to obvious game to be a wolf....I mean surely he wouldn't be so suspect? There is that other special unknown role though...and I'm not willing to take the chance that it's friendly to not worry about that too.

I was always on the a no kill gets us nowehere bandwagon...but Chet's argument against has been pretty compelling....*looks back at post and reailzes it doesn't actually say anything of not*

It's tough this early on ok!

Has anyone not spoken up yet?

 

[Uara]

Ok having just had a chance to read through the last couple of pages of the minutes of todays musings. If Chosen is a wolf he's a damn suicidal one, coming out so assertive/trigger happy is a sure fire way to draw attention to oneself especially when they're posts don't make that much sense. (it could of course be a brilliant ruse to lull us into thinking he's too stupid to be a wolf, but then stupid villagers aren't much help either in these situations)....

I'm actually leaning towards a no vote for today. I know it gives the wolves a free shot etc but making the wrong decision today with the numbers game we're playing could leave us in a decidedly tricky situation.

 

[Olgaline]

No! No vote, No votes are for Poopy pants!
Burn Ch3tan or Chosen, they made me read stuff, and I dont likes to read.