Werewolf #2 2011 - Game Thread.

[Chosen]

I got it all planned ahead

 

[Rubric]

unvote chosen. I'm not sure about chosen now. Ch3t, its starting to feel like one of those interigations you see on the tv where the cop pressures the innocent guy into saying the wrong thing.

 

[gohan]

Olol 2 pages overnight? My my you're very nocternal creatures.

Imo chosen is either a wolf or a mental villager, unless the 'special' role is just that, you have to act like a proper special...... My gut feeling atm is that in any of these 3 roles he's more harm than good.
And as I've said a no vote gets us nowhere
So vote chosen

 

[Mabs]

Chosen asked to be locked up. This means a few things. He is not the sheriff. He is not the nurse or seer as they would then be unable to perform any night action, why would they ask to be blocked overnight? To be clear, I am not saying he is not one of these roles, hell he could even be the sheriff playing a risky game, but it seems unlikely.
.

this makes a lot of sense.
killing a non wolf = not ideal
guaranteeing not to kill doc/seer = acceptable loss ?

im leaning towards that as acceptable. purely as, from past experience..
day one - no lynch
is worse than
day one - a lucky kill
but then it could either way, but as chet pointed out, chosen would seem to be a "good " candidate


gnargh cant decide, plus i have man flu
i will vote by lunchtime one way or another

 

[Ch3tan]

As I also said, not enough people have said enough, so it's not ideal. And Chosen knows how to dig a hole.

Rubric: If you've got nothing to hide, you shouldn't make mistakes under pressure?

I'm happy to unvote if discussion takes us in a different direction, however I don't see any benefit right now in keeping Chosen alive, wolf or not.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Just a reminder folk, everything in this thread is FOR this thread so if someone is insulting, it's not personal, it's the nature of the game. Leave all manner of reps, PMs, other thread posts etc out of it.

 

[Chosen]

im leaning towards that as acceptable. purely as, from past experience..
day one - no lynch
is worse than
day one - a lucky kill

This was exactly what I said during my earlier posts, where ch3t could not see this point of view.(He clearly changed that)

1: We dont vote at all, wolfies kill one of us.(if we are not lucky with our 2 protectors).

2: We votekill a normal citizen(lets assume a special class would step forward before it goes to hanging.) and the wolfies kill one of us.(again only if we are not lucky with our locking up/protecting)

3: We votekill a wolf(our definitive best scenario). And the two others might kill one of us(again we might be lucky, and this time we will only have two of them to be considerate of).


Anyway, with option 2 and 3(where 3 is the best) we might learn some patterns which helps us resolve how the wolfs act later in the game.

All I have done the last past days now, is to create a confusion! Yes, the citizens might also be confused, but most importantly of all! The wolves are. Why?

1: They wont know if I am being protected during this night or not, which might get them to think attacking me is a waste of action.

2: If ch3t is not a wolf, all this might've also protected him! Seeing how he is going at me, and being aggressive towards the lynching part, which will only benefit the wolves.(Even tho he was totally against lynching, and haven't said any !real! reasons why I am hurting this village! Even tho, my suspicion of him is still high)

3: We already have a voting pattern here, which might be useless right now. But can help us find the real culprits later on this game! I am 100% sure that at least one of these votes are a wolf. Who would benefit the most of getting one civilian lynched? Yes! The wolf!

What I really do not understand here, is how ch3t from the first days was so against lynching anyone, before we knew more after the night! And then suddenly went at me, the moment I actually suggested what to do, instead of trying to "build" on the idea! Why on earth would he be so aggressive? If he's plan all along wouldn't be to actually start a bandwagon?

He says that I am more hurtful to the village dead then alive? And how did he actually reach to this conclusion? Because I lied to him? Or because I created a havoc between the two of us?

As I already said, I don't see any reasons why I would be more hurtful to this village, but the other way around. Remember, that the wolfs are among us and if we are confused so are they!

And last that I have mentioned at least twice. The best scenario for us, is if there is no killing during the night.

 

[Mabs]

thats all well and good Chosen

but end of the day, there is no easy target

and your being a bit of a tit


so . . .

 

[Ch3tan]

You are an idiot, I have stated my reasons for a no lycnh, and I have stated my reasons for a lynch on you. Several times.

You saying that I have not, does not make it so. Just another lie from you. Anyone with half a brain can go over the 9 pages of notes from our town meeting and see exactly what has been said, so how does you putting a false spin on things help anyone? IDIOT.

 

[Chosen]

You are an idiot, I have stated my reasons for a no lycnh, and I have stated my reasons for a lynch on you. Several times.

You saying that I have not, does not make it so. Just another lie from you. Anyone with half a brain can go over the 9 pages of notes from our town meeting and see exactly what has been said, so how does you putting a false spin on things help anyone? IDIOT.

Then show it to me, because I can't see any real reasons why I am hurting this village All I can see is how I am hurting a ill tempered asshole

 

[Ch3tan]

Also you have not created havoc, all you've done is single yourself out through obivous flaws and stupid logic. What you have done, if you are a good character, is help the wolves.

We've got no voting patterns, as apart from me and one other, all the votes have been on you. No one else has spoken up, because it's too easy to watch you dig deeper with each word.

 

[Ch3tan]

Meh; it's up to the rest of you now. I'll support a no vote, a lynch on ceixah for being a dubious ass-licker, and most certainly a lynch on chosen for being a grade A idiot.

I don't see anything else to go on, and quite frankly if Chosen is not a wolf, I hope he is eaten if he survives the vote.

Survival of the fittest, and chosen is fit for nothing but firewood.

 

[Chosen]

Also you have not created havoc, all you've done is single yourself out through obivous flaws and stupid logic. What you have done, if you are a good character, is help the wolves.

We've got no voting patterns, as apart from me and one other, all the votes have been on you. No one else has spoken up, because it's too easy to watch you dig deeper with each word.

And again small words for a big mouth! No backup why you think my character is helping the wolves. Where I have explained exactly why it does not

 

[Ch3tan]

*sigh*

Chosen; I've posted again and again why. If you lack the ability to look back over what has been said, then that is your flaw.

If you are going to challenge me then have the good sense to call me on some flaw I've made, not calling me on things I have stated repeatedly. Again you are just harming yourself by trying to paint me as a deceiver.

If I answer your challenge this time (again), what is to stop you asking again in two pages? You are asking questions I've already answered. I also think it's ironic that you are trying to have a go at me for apparently not answering my questions when you spent the first part of this (game) day doing nothing but avoid.

Everyone else; I won't post again until you've all had a say or unless the vote is getting close to lighting the torches time.

 

[Chosen]

*sigh*

Chosen; I've posted again and again why. If you lack the ability to look back over what has been said, then that is your flaw.

If you are going to challenge me then have the good sense to call me on some flaw I've made, not calling me on things I have stated repeatedly. Again you are just harming yourself by trying to paint me as a deceiver.

If I answer your challenge this time (again), what is to stop you asking again in two pages? You are asking questions I've already answered. I also think it's ironic that you are trying to have a go at me for apparently not answering my questions when you spent the first part of this (game) day doing nothing but avoid.

Everyone else; I won't post again until you've all had a say or unless the vote is getting close to lighting the torches time.

That is EXACTLY what I am trying to tell! I have read the pages, and I can't find ANYTHING that proves me hurting the village. And it seems like you are pushed back into the corner, by telling me to dig up stuff that aint even there. If only you're brain were as big as you're mouth, then maybe you could realise this yourself.

 

[Chosen]

Here are some conclusions I have reached.

This game is dangerous, because it is easy to fall into a bandwagon. Where the wolfs are clearly superior where I am sure they know who the other wolves are, and makes it easier to start a bandwagon on a innocent player.

Also, let's say there are 3 wolfs and right now we only need 6 votes to lynch a player. This means, that the wolfs only stands for half of the votes and will only need 3 more to jump in to get a innocent villager killed without using any effort.

This means, that most likely that the wolfs are already eager to get me hanged and I bet my salary that ATLEAST 1 of them have already voted for me!

When it comes to me getting the 6 votes, I am sure that atleast 2 of them are wolfs, and even maybe all 3.

Right now, I have had 4 votes in total onto me(Rubric took back his). Which means I currently have 3 votes, if none of the wolfs have voted yet, they could all vote for me and get a innocent lynched right away.

Which clearly means, that I bet 1 or 2 of the voters for me are a wolf. And are waiting for the 4th or 5th vote to take place, so they can seal the deal.

This is why I am already betting my money on towards ch3t being one of them. And if I as a wolf are already this close to getting lynched, it is weird that the wolfs themselves haven't even come to my aid, to try and turn the tide?

Like I said earlier, if I were a wolf then I am sure ch3t should already have had 2 - 3 votes on him already!

 

[Olgaline]

Right,

That logic could just as well be aplied in reverse chosen. intonation who hasnt voted for you.
Slippery slope.....

Oh! And your both idiots, just for different reasons.


/tips his hat, walks off into the sunset.

 

[Chosen]

Right,

That logic could just as well be aplied in reverse chosen. intonation who hasnt voted for you.
Slippery slope.....

Oh! And your both idiots, just for different reasons.


/tips his hat, walks off into the sunset.

Yes, you are right. This IF I were a wolf, so if I can prove my innocence either my death or revealing my role. That would put the wolfs in a bad spot wouldn't it?

 

[gohan]

If I was a wolf, and I was paired with you, I'd probly vote for you anyway as a massive liability....... or even to cover my own ass when you're so clearly heading into a kamikazi situation...

 

[Chosen]

So as I said, if I prove I am not the wolf. I'd be putting the ones that are in a bad position! This because what I stated in the above thread

 

[gohan]

So as I said, if I prove I am not the wolf. I'd be putting the ones that are in a bad position! This because what I stated in the above thread

what??!?!?! ..... You make No sense



not even a little bit, I'm almost beyond caring if you are a wolf or not, I frankly just want to set fire to your face

 

[Chosen]

Just burn me!

 

[Chosen]

what??!?!?! ..... You make No sense



not even a little bit, I'm almost beyond caring if you are a wolf or not, I frankly just want to set fire to your face

You obviously cba to actually read what I said about the logic around the voting, so i cba to give you a proper response

 

[Uara]

Wow....been dozing in my seat for a little while and all this happens! A lot of what I've been thinking has been said already-->The lock me up thing as raised by Ch3t doesn't help you in anyway.
IF you are innocent:The wolves wouldn't target you as they would assume you were being protected which would give an almost free shot on anyone else (barring getting a lucky nurse protection). OR they would just not kill anyone and would mean us villagers would burn you tomorrow under the idea that you were an alpha and so unable to make a killing that night.
IF you are a wolf..it doesnt matter, there would be a death anyway.(unless you're an alpha).
So we don't really get anything from locking you up.

With regards to the voting thing, the last person to vote is unlikely to be a wolf as they won't want to draw attention to themselves as the person who condemns them to death. You'll want to look to the middle voters as they are the ones who can hide away or at least attempt to without too many accusatory glances.

 

[Sydrik]

unvote: Jimmy
but leave my sheep alone you bastard
vote: Chosen
flawed logic and I'm out of chips so I'm going to steal your crispy fingers and eat them with my sauce.

 

[Cerb]

Vote: Chosen

I know I'm going to be called a bandwagon but if you look back through my posts I've had suspicions about him for a while.

I'm not sure that he's a wolf but my thought are that he's not the sheriff because it doesn't make sense that he would asked to be examined, and I think if he was the nurse he would have been a lot quieter.

So honestly I think he may be the other role, some psycho trying to get himself killed as his aim of the game.

 

[Ch3tan]

Gah.... unvote chosen

Need some more thinking time....

 

[Chosen]

Well, I am one of the special roles. But no, not the secret one! So killing me off, will be a big mistake by the none wolfies

 

[Cerb]

Whoa whoa whoa....was this whole spat between you and chosen a pantomime of some sort?

There did seem to be some overly angry posts there for what was going on....

 

[gohan]

Vote: Chosen

I know I'm going to be called a bandwagon but if you look back through my posts I've had suspicions about him for a while.

I'm not sure that he's a wolf but my thought are that he's not the sheriff because it doesn't make sense that he would asked to be examined, and I think if he was the nurse he would have been a lot quieter.

So honestly I think he may be the other role, some psycho trying to get himself killed as his aim of the game.

Seems a flimsy reason, and strange that you only decide to put the vote on when he's close to death, don't get me wrong my vote stands as i'm not as fickle as chet who was campaining to have him burned then withdraws his vote ....... Maybe both wolfs and the who thing is a charade, but i doubt it.....