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[Septina]

M8s, please slam my firbeh
<3 tendrils spammage

 

[Dreami]

Det5 Mwahahhah

 

[Puppet]

If you slam a banelord no problem; just make sure you kill him in the slam duration.

 

[Brite]

i am teh orignal tendrils spammar :<

piss off you fotm BLs!

best patch ever, apart from det /cry

hope my 50% dura tarts lasts out til then

and those screenshots are most likely repairing the 4% + whatever they had dura over the 100% as it goes upto 150% so it isnt as bad as they are trying to make it out to be, stupid yanks and by the looks of the tarts dura the others are going to be close to 100% dura

 

[Shike]

Det5 Mwahahhah

agree!!!

 

[Shike]

Hib melee groups are going to be really Fearsome with Det5 now.

Bard SoS2 AM3 etc
Warden Det5 TWF3, BG/Grapple
Blademasters Det5, Charge2, BL's (ofc)
Druid DI3, PR3
Hero Det5, BG/Grapple


some sweet melee groups coming after this patch i bet.

a smart BM would go charge3 and det5 tho I love my charge3 and wouldnt trade it for anything, nothing like beeing able to charge again and kill someone who think he can kite away midfight

 

[atos]

wtf is tendrils btw?

 

[Martok]

<Puts heretic on back burner again>

<Dust's off merc>

Time for some fun :wub:

 

[Tuorin]

Hoho, can't wait

 

[Eva]

http://vnboards.ign.com/Midgard_Viking_Professions/b20911/87266374/?23

Welcome back unccable tanks....

This is a bit extreme imo. 1.24 min root lasting 6 secs.

 

[Maeloch]

Um, in a new hypothetical tankalot think savage will get a spot in the assist train for warlord...warguard 25% melee grp abs buff for 40s, stacks with BoF and same timer.

BoF stacked with warguard (cuts melee damage down to 1/8th with BoF 3 - get x2 BoF and x2 warlords if poss for use on 5min timer), some or stacked ST in grp, ML9 warlord to counter demoral, and mebbe a caster grp won't hurt so much. Will need MoC tho.

Can't see this going live as seems a completely unneed fix, but then warlocks did so...

 

[Sycho]

I do not like this patch, here's why:

a) Pure tanks should of only got these fixes due to no charge.
b) I think any light tank would rather of seen grapple nerfed a lot.
c) It favours mib/hib a bit more since they can sling more grapplers into group anyway to make the alb tanks useless if they are good at it.
d) It's too strong enabling it on all tank classes.

 

[Tuorin]

I hear what you are saying Matt. The determination improvement would probably have been better conceived if it just affected heavy tanks. If they do tinker with grapple now, it will be stupid in light of the changes already. Perhaps they should drop stoicism from light tanks, make grapple have a longer reuse or infact stun the user for twice the duration. Can't see how they can now though.

 

[Xxcalibur]

i hope u come back with your mercs grps sycho

 

[Sycho]

i hope u come back with your mercs grps sycho

I am not coming back ever, only here on forums sometimes to torment people.

 

[Elendar]

immunity timer for grapple!
and det 5 + stotic is way over the top loving :/
maybe if they'd give only arms/hero/war stotic

 

[robbe]

hannah lvl 50 bof3 bot will get even more grps imo ~~

 

[Elitestoner]

dont need to be slammed, trigger happy baseline stunners sort out the tendril spammage for you.

 

[Asysh_pryd]

Stoicism + Determination + Resists + Sorc. Mez-mute chant.

Goodness me

 

[Tuppe]

Stoicism + Determination + Resists + Sorc. Mez-mute chant.

Goodness me

heh, me and my english.
read 1st time
Stoicism + Determination + Rasists + Sorc.

oh well

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

Will be nice to see armsmen making a comeback tbh - almost no rr5+ toa'ed armsmen on the server, if any in fact that are still active. Would like one with soldiers barricade 3 or dashing defence 3 or something - evul...

 

[Killerbee]

dont need to be slammed, trigger happy baseline stunners sort out the tendril spammage for you.

Actually you need to stun when no bger around to save your sorc/cleric/theu ass for some more secs :<

Det changes are zzzz. What will be the new alb grp? 2 clerics, 3 mercs, 1 pala, 1 friar, 1 sorc?

 

[UndyingAngel]

Actually you need to stun when no bger around to save your sorc/cleric/theu ass for some more secs :<

Det changes are zzzz. What will be the new alb grp? 2 clerics, 3 mercs, 1 pala, 1 friar, 1 sorc?

sounds like the grp our guild was running b4 I left.. it worked very well tho with the new det changes it might work.. better

 

[Huntingtons]

gotta respec druid to bof3 i guess, bye bye aug dex :'(

 

[Shike]

Actually you need to stun when no bger around to save your sorc/cleric/theu ass for some more secs :<

Det changes are zzzz. What will be the new alb grp? 2 clerics, 3 mercs, 1 pala, 1 friar, 1 sorc?

actually, theurg will still be invaluable imo And reaver is still v nice to have long thanks to TWF. So we will not change setup at all I think, will still run cleric, cleric, sorc, 2h paladin, friar, merc, reaver and theurg.

 

[Killerbee]

actually, theurg will still be invaluable imo And reaver is still v nice to have long thanks to TWF. So we will not change setup at all I think, will still run cleric, cleric, sorc, 2h paladin, friar, merc, reaver and theurg.

What is the friar spec? Guess not 25 staff then Does theurg assist tanks after petted enemy support?

 

[Shadster]

Some pretty big changes.

- Determination is back with a vengeance.

Determination 1: 4% reduction to crowd control duration
Determination 2: 8% reduction to crowd control duration
Determination 3: 20% reduction to crowd control duration
Determination 4: 38% reduction to crowd control duration
Determination 5: 55% reduction to crowd control duration

79% with stoicism, thats more than prenerf det. So we're basically talking CC immune tanks again. People were already running tank groups more or less - this will just reinforce that trend I suppose.

- Artifacts never run out of durability. Good news for casters. Will start using Tartaros for pve then

- Caster speed nerfed to somewhere between current and 1.75 level.

- Shield of Immunity / MOC nurfd for sorcs.

Oh and btw, Give Bards Determination. They are the only class with melee spec who dont get access to it ;(

im not sure if vamps come under been a tank but i hope they do kind of hard soloing against a caster if ra are down any 1 no if vamps come under this ?

 

[Maeloch]

im not sure if vamps come under been a tank but i hope they do kind of hard soloing against a caster if ra are down any 1 no if vamps come under this ?

Hard soloing vs charge tanks for a caster, even if ra's up .

 

[Shike]

What is the friar spec? Guess not 25 staff then Does theurg assist tanks after petted enemy support?

friar is high enh ofc, 29ish staff, rest rej. Not exactly sure but something like that. MLstyles are nice and BG is nice aswell as the resistbuffs.

Theurg pretty much pet and then either assist or solokill casters on his own, some casters are much easier for nukers to kill than for tanks, hi SMs!

Full setup we run is

Cleric-warlord
Cleric-perf
Sorc-conv
Friar-battlemaster
Merc-banelord
Reaver-banelord
Theurg-conv
2h Pala-battlemaster

works out pretty ok for us tbh, aint an easy group to kill.

 

[Cloudz]

No grapple nerf still?xD

would love to see that