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[K0nah]

Originally posted by optical-
lol @ all the people though who were saying la was gonna be nerfed, any intelligent person would have worked out they were gonna "nerf" end regen (i dont actually think its that bad what theyve done) and not zerkers themselves.

rofl, its not over yet boy. if u think one shotting casters and 2-3 shotting heavy tanks isnt gonna get nerfed your the one with the sub-par iq...

oh and chanter love, sooo very neeeded

 

[hellraisermk2]

As a Midgard player who has advocated changes to either LA/ End regen since the problem came up, this is NOT a viable fix. I can't (hope I don't) see it going live.

With end as a conc based buff it means you need 2 shames per group for buffing capabilities that the other realms have.

1 shaman in a group= 2/3 of conc gone on End and a maximum of 12 buffs, more likely around 5 buffs for the entire group. In this case having end up will not make much difference due to the group being generally weaker than alb/ hib counter parts.

Alternative: No end regen up, buffed instead: On par stats wise with realm counterparts, but now lacking in end regen which the other realms have.

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2 Shamans in a group:

Full buffs/ Full end regen: Downside to this scenario is that 1 shaman is basically gimped: Shaman dot's do not stack, meaning only 1 can be active at a time. The other shaman could attempt to heal, but the Shaman heal line is very weak in the first place, added to the fact there isn't allot of mend specced shammies about. (add to that a second shaman in the group also means one less spot for another support/ damage character, thus detracting from the groups overall damage)

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Again before people jump on my post, I have long stated that LA/ End regen needed looking at and adjusting. I agree that it was overpowered in its current form. This change is absolutely laughable though. Mythic have really neglected to look at the consequences that making it a conc based buff has on our PRIMARY buffers capabilities and group capabilities.

Groups have to choose between less stats (buffs) overall and end regen, or normal stats (buffs) and no end regen. Either way, it now gives the other two realms an advantage statistically wise over midgard (though I won't say RvR wise until I've seen it in action).

I really hope that Mythic see sense and change this to a chant as it should have always been. At a minimum they should change it to a group based buff that only uses 1 of the 20 buffs AND at a vastly reduced conc cost.

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And a final note to those about to say "hahaha pwned, overpowered for months, you deserve this".... get a life. It's not about nerfing one realms overall capabilities below your own realm as some sort of justice/ payback, it's about balancing the game and classes.

 

[Garnet]

imo they should have turned end regen into a chant.

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by Trinilim
1fg mids

let's say they have 1 shaman

Kill the shaman, the zerk's end buff goes away

no more DUBLEFR0STFORTEHWIN!!11!

WOOOOOOO-.. ah feck it.. OOT.

I dont find that bad thats fair. However as it is now midgard loses ALOT off buffs on their players to have a regen that is for every other realm a chant/song. As lots off ppl say make it a chant not a conc based buff . Btw why the hell has it to cost 30 conc??? I atleast thought they would make it cheap .

 

[osy]

the end regen nerf is not going to affect organized RvR guilds, which have buffbots for baseline/specline buffs, and battle shamies with second best end regen, which are in the FG anyway.

just that shamies will need to stick closely to the group, thats all.

 

[mots]

I like the changes to end regen =) now my cave shammy dont have to spam end regen 3 every 10 min. This is not a nerf its a boost =) now shammys dont have to go aug 32 for group end regen and can have higher cave, mend.

 

[greenfingers]

- You may now delve items in your vault to see additional information about them.


thank you, bout time, hate to drag my items out to my inventory....

btw 1.61 is a Hib luuve patch?

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

I also hoped see hidden would not go live...
Mythic did not listen though
Regards, Glottis

 

[old.DachraK]

Yay! Mid nerf hehehe....all nerfs to mid are welcome.
Now w8 for 1.62b and hope the naturalists are next so my gimpy warden will BECOME UBAH !!!

 

[Exinferis]

this patch will be very interesting me thinks

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by optical-
thats your zerker nerf btw, dont be too happy, youll still be hit for 1200 damage

nice to see ppl dancing this early.

I will laugh at you if they take away the table you are dancing on in a later 1.62 patch

then I'll come up with 3 nice words for you btw

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by censi
Was this the major overhaul of hibernia they were talking about???

where they said they would look at CD and all that???

Dont see anything major here thats gonna really benefit us much... (in comparission to the albion luv patch they are all minor changes)

Once again though gutted that they still have no ranger luv.

only the first of many, m8 (or shall I say n00b? )

tho, are they finished with enchanters? hope not. still one of the most gimpiest specclines are left as it is

 

[nightsorrow]

Originally posted by loxleyhood
Still no archer love. Offencive.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Thorarin

I think midgard end regen should be the best one in the 3 realms, since midgard is after all the 'melee realm'.

then if this is your opinion, stop whine on ment MR. You say that hib has the best one. be happy about this then, since hib is considered the magic realm as mid is considered the melee realm.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by optical-
thats your zerker nerf btw, dont be too happy, youll still be hit for 1200 damage

is it just me or do I hear a twinge of desperation in this comment?

 

[Wot-do]

lol

Originally posted by Thorarin
Actually the end regen nerf is completely retarded.

It's now the only concentration based buff that actually has a range, way to go Mythic. Of course, Hibernia is allowed to have castable mana regen, but Midgard can't have castable end regen...

Sure, end regen is very good and it is very powerful the way it is now, but I don't think this change is warranted if you look at the whole picture. Hibernia can do the free mana regen 5 for everyone thing since the beginning of time, and mid is nerfed for having castable end regen 3.

Seeing more shammies in active RvR should be fun though
<shrugs and crafts some end regen 3 potions >

lol, u cant possible compare mana regen with endu regen. mana regen are nice for casters, but doesnt mean u cant run out of power. But endu regen means u can perm sprint , spam whatever styles u want w/o getting ranout of endu.

 

[redknapp]

What I do know is this spells doom for people who dont need End to fight demanding End Reg.

Will become like healers casting Purity on Skalds and Thanes....if I have the spare conc mate...

Sadly, PBAE disease and sprint is the Shammy escape trick, without End Reg we will be sitting ducks, so guess who i cast it on first.....

If this ever goes live in Europe, i am offering 5 Plat for a respec stone.

 

[Arnor]

Re: lol

Originally posted by Wot-do
lol, u cant possible compare mana regen with endu regen. mana regen are nice for casters, but doesnt mean u cant run out of power. But endu regen means u can perm sprint , spam whatever styles u want w/o getting ranout of endu.

I cant sprint and spam any styles permanently with end5

I cant even perma-spam dfrostfortehwin!!1 if I stand still with end5

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by Gahldir
then if this is your opinion, stop whine on ment MR. You say that hib has the best one. be happy about this then, since hib is considered the magic realm as mid is considered the melee realm.

except now we dont have the best end regen, but in most peoples view the worst?

 

[Wot-do]

Re: Re: lol

riiight arnor , endu reg 5 sux :> , buy long wind 1 u gimp -_-

Originally posted by Arnor2
I cant sprint and spam any styles permanently with end5

I cant even perma-spam dfrostfortehwin!!1 if I stand still with end5

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by driwen
except now we dont have the best end regen, but in most peoples view the worst?

er

conc based end regen on chain wearing class >>>> end song on reinf. wearing class with shiny notes floating around him

alb has the best end regen in 1.62a, hib still has the worst

 

[Flimgoblin]

albs takes power and runs out

 

[Runolaz]

Just a thought...

Doesn't patchnote say the "singletarget" endregen line is effected by con? I'm I way off the batt? And even if you have the grp end-regen we don't know the con cost of it, if it is effected. The single line end-regen is anyway a "hell on earth" for a Cave-Shaman to keep going in a grp, so IMHO...start buying end-regen potion...I have a shit-load of them in my vault

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by driwen
except now we dont have the best end regen, but in most peoples view the worst?

considering you are the realm that can turn end into most dmg I actually think it's fair

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Runolaz
Just a thought...

Doesn't patchnote say the "singletarget" endregen line is effected by con? I'm I way off the batt? And even if you have the grp end-regen we don't know the con cost of it, if it is effected. The single line end-regen is anyway a "hell on earth" for a Cave-Shaman to keep going in a grp, so IMHO...start buying end-regen potion...I have a shit-load of them in my vault

might still be a chant

 

[geysor]

The net effect of the shaman nerf will be that no-one outside of the group I am in will ever get an end regen buff from me.

This will have a huge effect in the big rvr battles, and will seriously nerf midgard big time.

Oh well, it's only a game.

 

[The Kingpin]

Nerf Midgard big time how?

First, you never used to have end regain..
No other realm can give end regain to someone outside there group?

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Runolaz
Just a thought...

Doesn't patchnote say the "singletarget" endregen line is effected by con? I'm I way off the batt? And even if you have the grp end-regen we don't know the con cost of it, if it is effected. The single line end-regen is anyway a "hell on earth" for a Cave-Shaman to keep going in a grp, so IMHO...start buying end-regen potion...I have a shit-load of them in my vault

yup, end 5 on your group takes 80% of your conc.

Leaving with enough for 4-5 more buffs ;x


also, end 5 compleatly overrights all other end spells (before u had access to end 2,3,4,5 etc) so if u have 42 aug, u cant use anything else

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Gahldir
considering you are the realm that can turn end into most dmg I actually think it's fair

its not that bad imo, a good fix...but the insane conc use is lame, just make it a chant

 

[optical-]

Originally posted by K0nah
rofl, its not over yet boy. if u think one shotting casters and 2-3 shotting heavy tanks isnt gonna get nerfed your the one with the sub-par iq...

just about sums up albs, they get major improvements and still cry like babies about "overpowered" classes and beg for nerfs. pathetic.