0.999999 recurring actually equals 1

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[Chronictank]

OK there is a easier way of settling this,

If you dont think .(9) = 1 then multiply 1/9 by 9

1/9 = .111...

Working it out fractionally
9 x 1/9
= 9 x 1 / 9
= 9/9
= 1/1
= 1

what does .111... x 9 equal?

 

[Chronictank]

at least thats what convinced me

 

[fl3a]

and it may be more convinent to say 0.999 recurring is 1

but its isnt

or it would be 1 not 0.999 recurring

it is 0.9 recurring but it is equal to 1. i guess thats the right way to put it. the same way as Pi π is equal to 3.14159(and so on). some things just have multiple names while being equal. as is the case with 1 and 0.(9)

 

[Bugz]

OK there is a easier way of settling this,

If you dont think .(9) = 1 then multiply 1/9 by 9

1/9 = .111...

Working it out fractionally
9 x 1/9
= 9 x 1 / 9
= 9/9
= 1/1
= 1

what does .111... x 9 equal?

I didn't think of expressing it that way.

Same applies with 1/3 = 0.3 recurring

3 x 1/3 = 1 therefore 0.3333... x 3 = 0.9999.. = 1

 

[- English -]

0.9......9 does not = 1.0........0

it might if u do maths shit to it, but in that statement it does not equal it!

i win

/wave elvo ;>

 

[gohan]

but the point isn't about fractions into decimles and how its doesnt work


the fact is 0.99999999 recurring as a number is a number, its not one or it woudn't be 0.99999999 recurring




i mean i could say that and acorn is tecnically a tree


but id be wrong



and so is bugz




+ i think he smokes cock*
























* may or may not be true














probly is tho

 

[Bugz]

but the point isn't about fractions into decimles and how its doesnt work


the fact is 0.99999999 recurring as a number is a number, its not one or it woudn't be 0.99999999 recurring

i mean i could say that and acorn is tecnically a tree

0.999... and 1 are just different forms of the same number.

Same reason why 0.33... and 1/3rd are the same - same 'real' value - different forms.

 

[Thorwyn]

Time to pull the good old one...

7-2=5
(7-2) (7-5) = 5 (7-5)
49-35-14+10 = 35-25
49-35-14 = 35-25-10
7 (7-5-2) = 5 ( 7-5-2)

7=5

 

[Bugz]

Time to pull the good old one...

7-2=5
(7-2) (7-5) = 5 (7-5)
49-35-14+10 = 35-25
49-35-14 = 35-25-10
7 (7-5-2) = 5 ( 7-5-2)

7=5

2nd to 3rd line

 

[gohan]

0.999... and 1 are just different forms of the same number.

Same reason why 0.33... and 1/3rd are the same - same 'real' value - different forms.

difference is 1/3 isn't a number, its a value

0.999... and 1 are both decimal numerals


whereas 1/3 is a fration and is equal to 0.333...


you don't need to keep explaining the theory cos i get it but the difference is 0.333........ doesnt equal 0.999... it equals 1, so 0.999... doesnt eqaul 1

0.333... just doesnt multiply into 0.999...


as i said in my first post to get a whole numebr from 0.999..... you would ahve to mulitply it by whateva i.e 0.111... x 9 = 1
0.333... x 3 = 1

0.666... x 3 = 2

or 0.666... x 1.5 = 1




none of these are eqauling 0.999...


so its flawed at its most basic level

 

[Bugz]

as i said in my first post to get a whole numebr from 0.999..... you would ahve to mulitply it by whateva i.e 0.111... x 9 = 1
0.333... x 3 = 1

0.666... x 3 = 2

or 0.666... x 1.5 = 1




none of these are eqauling 0.999..

so its flawed at its most basic level

0.3333 recurring x 3 = 0.999 recurring = 1

1/3 x 3 = 3/3

Since 0.99... = 1 through proof, we can say thus that 0.333 x 3 = 0.9999... or 1.

I don't see what's wrong?

 

[Thorwyn]

2nd to 3rd line

eh?
Both lines are correct.

2nd line multiplies the original terms by (7-5)
3rd line is just expanding the terms.

 

[pikeh]

0.9928282..0.1992.1{1}1/33*49499190

is all I have to say on that matter.

 

[Bugz]

eh?
Both lines are correct.

( 7 - 2 ) x ( 7 - 5) is evaluated as ( 5 x 2 ).

It doesn't follow the same rules as algebra AFAIK because those values can be expressed under a common ruleset - real numbers.

 

[Thorwyn]

( 7 - 2 ) x ( 7 - 5) is evaluated as ( 5 x 2 ).

It doesn't follow the same rules as algebra AFAIK because those values can be expressed under a common ruleset - real numbers.

No!
I just multiply both sides by (7-5) and as long as I do it to both sides, it´s all fine.

again:

7-2=5 -> *(7-5)

(7-2) (7-5) = 5 (7-5) -> expanding both sides

49-35-14+10 = 35-25 -> -10

49-35-14 = 35-25-10 -> reducing both sides

7 (7-5-2) = 5 ( 7-5-2) -> reducing the equal parts of the multiplication

7=5


Trust me, the "trick" is more subtle.

 

[Aoami]

omfg does it matter? surely 99% of people are going to round it up to 1 anyway.

 

[gohan]

0.3333 recurring x 3 = 0.999 recurring = 1

1/3 x 3 = 3/3

Since 0.99... = 1 through proof, we can say thus that 0.333 x 3 = 0.9999... or 1.

I don't see what's wrong?

well 0.333... isnt the same as 0.33333333

so when u times it by 3 its = 1 not 0.99999999

they are different numbers



the fact its 0.333........ isnt a real number, nor is 0.111... or 0.666... as thier fractions that can't be depicted by decimal numeracy


hence recurring being the closest (yet still inacurate) way of decimalising them


best way to prove this is to get a caculator, divide 1 by 3 then x it by 3
u get 0.999... which is incorrect as all you've done is reverse it so it should =1

all that proves is that a calculator isnt infinate and can't x a recurring number.


0.999... on a caculator =1


no where else, cos we have concious thought and realise 0.333... x 3 = 1


a calculator doesn't

that doesn't mean that 0.999... = 1


that means caculators R 2 B DUMB

 

[gohan]

hahah nice negative rep bugz, maybe u shouldn't start arguments then be a condecending little **** if u don't want to be insulted

 

[Bugz]

three dots are the end of a decimal indicates its recurring btw.

0.99... = 0.99 recurring - just another way of expressing it.

P.S - Gohan you were a twat in your post. Neg rep for people who can't argue respectfully but resort to insulting - its childish.

 

[gohan]

three dots are the end of a decimal indicates its recurring btw.

0.99... = 0.99 recurring - just another way of expressing it.

erm yes i know that


how about read my post, realise i've used that layout and stop thinking you're stephen hawkins mega mate


and p.s your a twat in most yours posts


and lets read back throught the thread and see who started the snide remarks and insults shall we? i fear it may be you u fucking faggy hypocrit **** faced whorebag retard window licking anal penertrated cum bubble


can i have more neg rep plz

 

[Bugz]

You aren't making a lot of sense. We are arguing that 0.99 recurring = 1.

P.S - (1 / 3) x 3 = 1 on my calculator

edit: Thor - still working on it

 

[gohan]

You aren't making a lot of sense. We are arguing that 0.99 recurring = 1.

P.S - (1 / 3) x 3 = 1 on my calculator

well i am making sense, but refer to the bottom of my last post as to why u can't see it

 

[noblok]

On Thorwyn's thing: Isn't the trick just that the last line says 7*0 = 5*0?

 

[Bugz]

On Thorwyn's thing: Isn't the trick just that the last line says 7*0 = 5*0?

haha. so it is!

 

[Bugz]

well i am making sense, but refer to the bottom of my last post as to why u can't see it

You carry on disproving all those maths graduates with the AS maths you so boldly flash. I'm sure your knowledge > theirs =/

 

[gohan]

You carry on disproving all those maths graduates with the AS maths you so boldly flash. I'm sure your knowledge > theirs =/

my point still stands if u care to read it


0.999... isnt a real number so it doesnt equall anything

its a calculating error from inacurate attempts to convert fractions to decimals



but your sir do infact = a fully quallified prick


ill take my win


u can take my cock

in your mouth

 

[Bugz]

I never said 0.99 recurring was a real number.

I simply said 0.99 recurring = 1.

That is the case. I'm not arguing anything else here lol.

P.S - rude little bugger aren't you?

 

[gohan]

I never said 0.99 recurring was a real number.

I simply said 0.99 recurring = 1.

That is the case. I'm not arguing anything else here lol.

P.S - rude little bugger aren't you?

but thats still not true



0.999... REPRESENTS 1



but it doesnt equal it



ie 0.999... x 2 doesnt = 2

by saying it equals 1 your giving it a true vaule as a number which its vaule is 0.999... ALWAYS the smallest decimal away from 1


so not equal too

 

[Thorwyn]

On Thorwyn's thing: Isn't the trick just that the last line says 7*0 = 5*0?

Exaclty, it´s a division by zero.

Grats!