Impressed £67.5 billion... nope... 263 billion, and rising.

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COP30 fails to do anything, to nobody's surprise. Still, a nice new road through the Amazon, so not a complete waste of time.
 

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COP30 fails to do anything, to nobody's surprise. Still, a nice new road through the Amazon, so not a complete waste of time.

I think it is something that is going to happen repeatedly while fossil fuels have any sort of say in the outcome.
 

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I think it is something that is going to happen repeatedly while fossil fuels have any sort of say in the outcome.
It's about time they were all told to fuck off and sit in the children's area, then get told what is going to be happening. But so long as money talks, rather than the need for survival, this is how it is going to be.

I am turning into a bit of a nihilist with the whole thing, I'll likely be dead in ~30-40 years, and frankly, the world could do without humanity.

Edit, or at least "organised" humanity.
 

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Using wood in a cycle if fine, grow the wood, burn it, grow the wood, burn it. It shouldn't need to add to the carbon in the atmosphere, just "reuse it"

Chopping down established woodland (In Canada, I believe?) and shipping it halfway around the world to burn it, without replacing the trees, not so much.

Obviously not ideal, but neutral, and nowhere near as beneficial as wind solar or tidal.

Our only real hope, once we have got over the fact that humanity needs more power than we can produce cleanly, is fusion.
 

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Just placing this here.


This shit does not lead to supporting green initiatives. Whatever happened to the promise that going clean would be cheaper? All I see is the costs lowering for the energy firms, while the revenue increases...
 

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Using wood in a cycle if fine, grow the wood, burn it, grow the wood, burn it. It shouldn't need to add to the carbon in the atmosphere, just "reuse it"

Chopping down established woodland (In Canada, I believe?) and shipping it halfway around the world to burn it, without replacing the trees, not so much.

Obviously not ideal, but neutral, and nowhere near as beneficial as wind solar or tidal.

Our only real hope, once we have got over the fact that humanity needs more power than we can produce cleanly, is fusion.

It would be fine if we weren't well past the ability to do it, we need loads more trees to deal with the amount we've cut down throughout history, while at the same time increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
 

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Anyone remember when @Deebs profile pic got us raided by that random US pretend-lawyer?

Edit: I do hope I am not mad, and it actually happened.
 

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