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Lothoras

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mate whats your dex? or however you got that castspeed... i smacked my head in the wall and almost peed my pants when i saw you.... debuff + 3 nukes in under one sec lol (or smt >.<) :mad:
 

Manisch Depressiv

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Gosh aye. Was running like a headless chicken when I met him. He is so rude, he nukes you a bit, you move closer, he moves away, then he nukes you a bit and a bit more and all so fast but the death is still so horribly slow and painful!

Nerf him!
 

Chimaira

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rr11 foty say more? :p

Actually pretty cool he plays chanter. Remember how long Chanters where top of the chain in this game. nowadays they are so rare.

Then again I guess at rr11 even an earth wizard would be painful ;)
 

Void959

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Well cast speed is capped at 40% of casting time, so a lot of casters will hit speed cap once fully TOAd and with 2-4 levels of augdex. Probably more that he was hitting you twice as hard as many ;)
 

Dreami

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/me kindly points out that there is PM function available.
 

Chimaira

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PM is for the weak. Share unwhine and whine to community :D

And I dont belive for a second there is a casting cap. Ive tried a lurikeen casting pbaoe with aug dex5 and well uhm. yeah ;)
 

trycorn

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Lothoras said:
mate whats your dex? or however you got that castspeed... i smacked my head in the wall and almost peed my pants when i saw you.... debuff + 3 nukes in under one sec lol (or smt >.<) :mad:
luri / sara / kobi with 10 starter dex, 101 dex / 10% cast speed in template and aug dex 4 should cap ur cast speed :eek:
 

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trycorn said:
luri / sara / kobi with 10 starter dex, 101 dex / 10% cast speed in template and aug dex 4 should cap ur cast speed :eek:
kob has 10 less start dex than sara/luri. And my eld caps cast speed with aug dex2 and 26 in template, 15 at start.
 

Vodkafairy

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Eva said:
kob has 10 less start dex than sara/luri. And my eld caps cast speed with aug dex2 and 26 in template, 15 at start.

i very much doubt it ;)

went from 390 to 402 dex a couple weeks ago and the difference is very noticable. staj has the same (dex4), but 26 in template - 403
 

Airwalker

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thought you stopped playing dreami hasselhoff...
tjena staji, why did you /no/no/no when I came running towards you in vasudheim uniform today? were going for my dinner, and bot were LD and had to sui, well ok, I would do that aswell if you see a creature twice as big as you going towards you with tartaros armed :sex: :p
 

Eva

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Vodkafairy said:
i very much doubt it ;)

went from 390 to 402 dex a couple weeks ago and the difference is very noticable. staj has the same (dex4), but 26 in template - 403
Will have to try that on my luri then. Got a few ra respecs lying around anyhow.
 

Crocky

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It's so funny people think that cap is at 386. yes it was for ages in OF.
Without the old MoA RA you're not gonna cap castspeed with 15+dex2 or 403 dex, with 410 you still feel a difference.
 

Void959

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Crocky said:
It's so funny people think that cap is at 386. yes it was for ages in OF.
Without the old MoA RA you're not gonna cap castspeed with 15+dex2 or 403 dex, with 410 you still feel a difference.
Nope its only with 386 and 10% TOA castspeed together that you *should* hit the cap. Formula is 1.5% increase for every 10 dex above 60 up to 250, and 2% for every 10 dex above that. That means with 386 dex you have: 1.5*(250-60)/10 + 2*(386-250)/10 = 55.7% increased cast speed, or 1-0.557=0.443 of the listed casting time. A TOA bonus (which is multiplicative) of 10% on top of this gives 0.443*(1-0.1)=0.3987 which brings it to the casting cap of 40%.

I say should because I can't deny what VF is saying about noticing a difference (assuming he has 10% cast speed ofc). If thats correct the only explanation is that they completely removed the hardcap without telling anyone.
 

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Void959 said:
Nope its only with 386 and 10% TOA castspeed together that you *should* hit the cap. Formula is 1.5% increase for every 10 dex above 60 up to 250, and 2% for every 10 dex above that. That means with 386 dex you have: 1.5*(250-60)/10 + 2*(386-250)/10 = 55.7% increased cast speed, or 1-0.557=0.443 of the listed casting time. A TOA bonus (which is multiplicative) of 10% on top of this gives 0.443*(1-0.1)=0.3987 which brings it to the casting cap of 40%.

I say should because I can't deny what VF is saying about noticing a difference (assuming he has 10% cast speed ofc). If thats correct the only explanation is that they completely removed the hardcap without telling anyone.

hardcap is 40% of delve. with 403 dex I cast at 40,8% speed of any spell.
with dex 5 I cap at 40%, with 417 dex.
 

Crocky

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Dracus said:
Thought I'd add my favorit "I R ubere at cast spd than j00" link, to prove your statement ;)

From Teh Pin himself:

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=31607&page=2

/Dracus

Dude do the tests yourself. that formule means shit.
Just another random formule from Pin quoted from VN boards.

well fyi those VN formules changed faster then their own realmpoints.
Do the test yourself or be a VN sheep like the rest of this forum.
 

Zdeath

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Crocky said:
Dude do the tests yourself. that formule means shit.
Just another random formule from Pin quoted from VN boards.

well fyi those VN formules changed faster then their own realmpoints.
Do the test yourself or be a VN sheep like the rest of this forum.

Sounds like you're the only VN sheep round here..

:m00: :m00: :m00
 

Zdeath

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Crocky said:
Dude do the tests yourself. that formule means shit.
Just another random formule from Pin quoted from VN boards.

well fyi those VN formules changed faster then their own realmpoints.
Do the test yourself or be a VN sheep like the rest of this forum.

Sounds like you're the only VN sheep round here..

:m00: :m00: :m00:
 

CuddleBunny!

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Chimaira said:
PM is for the weak. Share unwhine and whine to community :D

And I dont belive for a second there is a casting cap. Ive tried a lurikeen casting pbaoe with aug dex5 and well uhm. yeah ;)
same here... when testing NF on the test-server. i had a lurikeen with 426 dex(0% casting speed) and it was way faster than anything i have ever seen in my daoclife..
 

magon

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lol I will have 371 dex cap whit auge dex 3 + 10% casting speed and my life drain spell is almost at cap cap life drain is ate 380 a 385 or samting 1 sec cap you wont go under that or you are cheating most spec dmg spell are 3.8 sec so need same more dex but you will cap schield's spell if you have 400 + dex wieeeeee
 

MxN

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magon said:
lol I will have 371 dex cap whit auge dex 3 + 10% casting speed and my life drain spell is almost at cap cap life drain is ate 380 a 385 or samting 1 sec cap you wont go under that or you are cheating most spec dmg spell are 3.8 sec so need same more dex but you will cap schield's spell if you have 400 + dex wieeeeee

ehcasm asdo dpws lol
 

magon

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aaa fuck you all I hoop you die in pice

really you poepl inoi my really hard
 

CuddleBunny!

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magon said:
lol I will have 371 dex cap whit auge dex 3 + 10% casting speed and my life drain spell is almost at cap cap life drain is ate 380 a 385 or samting 1 sec cap you wont go under that or you are cheating most spec dmg spell are 3.8 sec so need same more dex but you will cap schield's spell if you have 400 + dex wieeeeee
You know, you do have a button on your keyboard that makes a sign like this ".".
You are suposed to use it once in a while.
Just for your information...
 

LordjOX

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You know perfectly well what he wants to say, so just leave it already.
 

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