Lag feedback

[GOA]Erivoss · Dec 9, 2004

A couple of things

1. The new chronicals are up so if you have time please take a look at them (Roll of Honour on the main community website) and send us any feedback/bugs you see.

2. The network staff have made a few changes in how things are done here (our end - this has nothing to do with OpenTransit and they're working on the problem in parallel with us). We basically need to know if the lag tonight is any better than it was before, or worse or the same. There's only so much we can test ourselves, really need the feedback of a few hundred people to be able to see if the changes we've made have had any noticeable effect. So this is the new place to flame about that (but keep the ping plots coming in - they're helping A LOT).

Edaemos · Dec 9, 2004

[GOA]Erivoss said:
We basically need to know if the lag tonight is any better than it was before, or worse or the same.

Lag is bad tonight, constant lag spikes.

Motowntheta · Dec 9, 2004

It seems worse for me tonight.

Gorrion · Dec 9, 2004

the lag spikes are worse than ever tonight, 10 sec lag spikes every min or 2, the game is totally unplayable atm.
My PC might not be the best and i do tend to lag normally, but those spikes we have dealt with the last 1½ - 2 month feel's like they are getting worse every week.

Indio · Dec 9, 2004

Basically same as usual, i.e. terrible.

Wazkyr · Dec 9, 2004

bit better for me, but still nothing accepteble. Lag spike evry 30 mins on 5-25 sec, where i can move, but cant cast or anything, and evrybody stand still.

Neffneff · Dec 9, 2004

I had some nasty spikes tonight too..wasnt doing anything apart from summoning wood so wasnt bothered...but im sure i would have been if i was trying to kill things.

lacroix · Dec 9, 2004

Pretty bad tonight in the Volcanus area (Pry/Alb) - having said that, it seemed to have been worst till about 9-10 pm or so, afterwards the lag spikes weren't as long as before anymore (i.e. just annoying rather than lethal).

Helme · Dec 9, 2004

Had just a few lagspikes tonight actually, 1 LD but that was becouse my own modem resetted

Danya · Dec 9, 2004

Not noticed any lag tonight on prydwen.

Zerach · Dec 10, 2004

*prydwen player here for midgard*
I only spent time on NF, so what I say goes for that area. Tonight was pretty bad with whats being refered to as "spikes", where Latency meter goes red for 4-5 seconds every say, 5 minutes. It has been like this for the past week/weeks, and getting mildly annoying. So unfortenatly, for me your changes had no effect. I really should start running that pingplotter when I get the spikes so you get more stuff to harass Opentransit with.

Really apreciate that you seem to be working hard on solving it tho and asking for help, its a good thing.

Draylor · Dec 10, 2004

[GOA]Erivoss said:
1. The new chronicals are up so if you have time please take a look at them (Roll of Honour on the main community website) and send us any feedback/bugs you see.

Interesting.

Seems alot better than the previous version: just about any stats Id be trying to find via other sites are now displayed. Biggest thing missing is any form of search (on char name or guild name). No doubt this is deliberate, but its a shame it couldnt be included.

Finally housing has been added to this: cheers for listening to the few hundred requests.

I have a serious hatred for anything needlessly using Flash: since everything other than the housing information is already available on other sites (which are IMHO faster & easier to use) I doubt Ill make much use of it. Its certainly a massive improvement over the old version.

As for bugs theres only 1 thing I noticed that seems wrong: guilds last week RPs are far too low. Im guessing this only started counting when the new site went up and will correct itself over time?

Final question: any chance of adding the various other stats Mythic make available for the US version: ie RvR deaths last week, I Remain Standing score (ie last week RP / deaths), etc? These would definitely be interesting to see, since theyve not as dependant on time spent as the pure RP stats. Even if these were just included in the XML files that'd be good enough

We basically need to know if the lag tonight is any better than it was before, or worse or the same.

Its really impossible to base that judgement on 1 night. The effect of this problem has varied widely from day to day, you really cant consider any 'better' or 'worse' comments to be a valid comment on any changes you have made internally. IMHO at least

Didnt play today so cant make any useful comment here.

Crookshanks · Dec 10, 2004

I thought the lag was a lot better tonight. Didn't notice any of the prolonged 10+ second spikes that we were seeing at the weekend. Just got one "blip" around 00:00 gmt which only turned the lag-o-meter orange, not even red. Fingers crossed it doesn't go bad again.

Boni · Dec 10, 2004

6hr plot of excal tonight, wasnt playing so cant comment if it was laggy or not. Hope thats of use.

Grimmen · Dec 10, 2004

I was in Thidranki all night on Excalibur. I had a huge lag spike at around the same time as on Boni's ping plot there- It was followed by another 5-7 seconds spike less than 30 seconds after the first huge spike. Other than that I didnt notice any bigger lag problems.

Onimos · Dec 10, 2004

Deira - ITA.

Odin's gate ----------------> Almost unplayable: every 120sec 20 sec of freeze

Emain ---------------------> Unplayable. If you meet someone, everthing freeze for 30 secs.

Hadrian Wall ----------------> Playable. With only one place for rvr, you can immagine the traffic considering 1100 people logged.

Sugah · Dec 10, 2004

Lag for me tonight has been about as bad as it gets. Ruined a ML6 raid (alb / excal) as ppl we're lag pulling huge amounts of mobs, raid got wiped and ppl LD'd while dead. What ever you did put it back.

Oboy · Dec 11, 2004

the lagg seems different for me, over normal laggspikes every two or third minute i had constant delay, like pressing the nuke button, nothing happens, 5 seconds later i start nuke, all lagg meters are green during this. When this delay happens its even hard to nuke a blue mob bcs i cant do anything but the mob do. Normal laggspikes everything freeze and then goes into ultraspeed when lagg stops but this delay is just freaked.

[GOA]Erivoss · Dec 11, 2004

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showpost.php?p=591630&postcount=8

Neffneff · Dec 11, 2004

Very informative update, thanks Erivoss.

rampant · Dec 11, 2004

thanks for the update erivoss, was it because of 1.70 that this lag was introduced? - i dont recall having this problem pre-nf

Thorarin · Dec 11, 2004

Midgard TOA on Excalibur has always been slightly laggy tbh, not just in 1.70.
It's been easily noticeable playing h2h savage with speed buffs since you miss followup styles there much more often than in the old zones.

That being said, it's worse in this version. However I'm not sure the improvements of 1.71 will be enough for the high population servers.

I've been a little busy with other things lately, but it seems to be the OpenTransit part of the problem is has slightly improved over time. It's not solved yet though.

Aussie · Dec 11, 2004

http://users.skynet.be/Aussie/ppnew.JPG

every 5min a spike, looks like its going better..

Daedalus · Dec 11, 2004

Aussie said:
http://users.skynet.be/Aussie/ppnew.JPG

every 5min a spike, looks like its going better..

200 ms, that's hardly a spike. More like a minor bump in the road.
Looks like it's just 1.70's bad performance issues that's left now.

Aussie · Dec 11, 2004

he asked how it is today, i've send alot worse pingplots then that to ervios

Aussie · Dec 11, 2004

just played 40mins, group logged. :eek:

/cancel sub

Thorarin · Dec 12, 2004

Daedalus said:
200 ms, that's hardly a spike. More like a minor bump in the road.

200ms can still be considered a problem, that's more latency than it takes to get to West USA, and he hasn't even left the UK yet.
People not in the UK won't have problems with that particular hop. Earlier there were many problems with hops that most of Europe passed through though

statued · Dec 12, 2004

soo crap and to make it worst i was on shit pc

((

Fragoverrule · Dec 12, 2004

played half an hour.. after reaching end point in alb.. LD éd and logged.. normal fg couldnt even walk normal without losing eachother due lag

Geruto · Dec 12, 2004

Played 30 mins , gave up.

Gonna cancel my sub if this doesnt get fixed soon, game is unplayable atm for me.

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