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Bracken

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Keffo said:
I am having a game of the wits with Bracken and his ubar theory to why mid's get nerfed.

That's a game you'll never win...especially if you base your theories on the writings of V.N. Mid. ;)

Mythic themselves have said that when people suddenly start rolling a class/spec in high numbers they look at why that is...and in every case it ends up with a nerf because the reason people roll it stems from it being overpowered. Understand yet? :p
 

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Bracken said:
That's a game you'll never win...especially if you base your theories on the writings of V.N. Mid. ;)

Mythic themselves have said that when people suddenly start rolling a class/spec in high numbers they look at why that is...and in every case it ends up with a nerf because the reason people roll it stems from it being overpowered. Understand yet? :p

I'm not basing my theories on anything, I actually have no theory on why, I am just debating your theory.

Albeit you don't make any sense whatsoever, I do understand your theory.
Which is a theory...nothing else.

I want a written document from Mythic where they state that.
:)
 

Kanim

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Keffo said:
Ah I get it now...when Albs got the smite nerf on clerics...they were teh smarties and made sure they made juuuust the right amount of FOTM's.

yes!, up until nf when they all rolled fotm sorcs and ended up getting the soi/moc nerf xD
 

Neo

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Only stealthers i ever was "afraid" of meating was Meduza and Sxx
(cuddos to Meduza for soloing and staying crit spec when every1
went fotm DW)

And Grimster ofc, but that was only cuz he traveled with
his merry gang of 7 ass ninjas.
 

Nemo

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Septina said:
Said it before and will say it again, every warlock out there deserves every moment of zerging they get, retarded class that should be deleted all together
Why?

I was only lvl43 with my WL when the nerf came, didn't wanna play before nerf and know that the dmg I was built to make was another failure of mythic's crapteam.

So all should hate me for playing my WL now? (exept for the fact i'm enemy)

/Lvl 50 RR3Lx and proud WL
 

Neo

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Nemo said:
So all should hate me for playing my WL now? (exept for the fact i'm enemy)

/Lvl 50 RR3Lx and proud WL

Dont know u, dont hate u.. BUT its still a retarded class imho.
 

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Neo said:
Only stealthers i ever was "afraid" of meating was Meduza and Sxx
(cuddos to Meduza for soloing and staying crit spec when every1
went fotm DW)

And Grimster ofc, but that was only cuz he traveled with
his merry gang of 7 ass ninjas.
Well, ty ol' timer :)

(I did however eventually go DW - was so much easier ;))

Well, back on topic. I had 2 hibs I disliked meeting when their RAs was up (NS & ranger). But it's been so long time since I've played I've forgotten their names :(
 

Twinky

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Bracken said:
That's a game you'll never win...especially if you base your theories on the writings of V.N. Mid. ;)

Mythic themselves have said that when people suddenly start rolling a class/spec in high numbers they look at why that is...and in every case it ends up with a nerf because the reason people roll it stems from it being overpowered. Understand yet? :p

Then ill stop play'n Sb, couse then we mb will get some love..? ;p
 

Bracken

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Twinky said:
Then ill stop play'n Sb, couse then we mb will get some love..? ;p

Doesn't seem to work in reverse...just look at us armsmen :(
 

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The threadstarter actually mentioning Arwena, Censi togheter with 1v1 I find quite amusing :)
 

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i dont FEAR anyone if i know they playing fairly and correctly. however.. getting killed by certain peeps in a good fight is another matter. if i get killed by Elajt i just have a chuckle to myself and think yeah good one. ANYONE else.. and i wanna tear your heart out.

so thats my vote. Alb stealther: Elajt

all the others: couldnt care less
 

Asran

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Mid stealther = Salamurwhatever
Hib stealther = Magol
Mid non stealther = Zzang
Hib non stealther = Spanish post 11pm zerg

This is based on my exp pre new frontiers, havent really played much since then :)
 

Twinky

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Hib stealth : Those who can win without Remedy
Alb stealth : Those who can win without strafe and walk through..
 

censi

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The threadstarter actually mentioning Arwena, Censi togheter with 1v1 I find quite amusing

I prolly spent more time soloing than anyone on the server in the last month tbh.

but whatever as they say.
 

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>>Mythic themselves have said that when people suddenly start rolling a class/spec in high numbers they look at why that is...and in every case it ends up with a nerf because the reason people roll it stems from it being overpowered. Understand yet?

which is why armsmen, paladins and wizards will probably never get loving... simply because half of the players who start this game start whith one of those 3 classes and hence there is a much larger proportion of them (who are completely and uterly useless) than of any other class in the game.

They could gimp those 3 classes even further, and you still would see shitloads of wizards out there.

A lock that was created 2 months ago can be out there with the best of the best and pawning high rr`s.

a 2 month old wizard/arms/pala is ... free rp, but there are shitloads of them, so no change will be made.
 

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censi said:
I prolly spent more time soloing than anyone on the server in the last month tbh.

but whatever as they say.

<chuckles>
 

Mirt

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which is why armsmen, paladins and wizards will probably never get loving...

Ok double speccing is kind of unfair for armsman, but their damage isn't gimped. Simmilarly wizards might be boring but their damage is good, high RR ones hit for obscene ammounts at times. What's so gimped about palaidins for that matter?
 

Danamyr

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Mirt said:
Ok double speccing is kind of unfair for armsman, but their damage isn't gimped. Simmilarly wizards might be boring but their damage is good, high RR ones hit for obscene ammounts at times. What's so gimped about palaidins for that matter?

You're right, Arms damage isn't gimped, but they lose out utility compared to Heros for example who can spec full CS or LW, 42 Shield for Slam and *still* have enough left over for 39 points in Parry.

What's true for one should be true for all - why Mythic are so reluctant to change this is anyone's guess - I suspect it would mean re-coding the Albion classes that need to double spec entirely and perhaps it's just too much work for them.

Of course a simpler method would be to just give the classes affected more spec points.
 

Arid|Disci

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Danamyr said:
You're right, Arms damage isn't gimped, but they lose out utility compared to Heros for example who can spec full CS or LW, 42 Shield for Slam and *still* have enough left over for 39 points in Parry.

What's true for one should be true for all - why Mythic are so reluctant to change this is anyone's guess - I suspect it would mean re-coding the Albion classes that need to double spec entirely and perhaps it's just too much work for them.

Of course a simpler method would be to just give the classes affected more spec points.

arms > heroes :<

blame paladins for them not getting grps (been said 10000000000 times though)
 

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Danamyr said:
You're right, Arms damage isn't gimped, but they lose out utility compared to Heros for example who can spec full CS or LW, 42 Shield for Slam and *still* have enough left over for 39 points in Parry.

What's true for one should be true for all - why Mythic are so reluctant to change this is anyone's guess - I suspect it would mean re-coding the Albion classes that need to double spec entirely and perhaps it's just too much work for them.

Of course a simpler method would be to just give the classes affected more spec points.

on the flip side a 50 LW 42 shield 39 parry 6 blade specced hero hits for virtually nothing with 1 hand (30-60 lol) All heavy tanks have it hard these days, not just the "poor" old armsman.
 

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To be honest i'd be inclined to say that warriors fair best of the heavy tanks with Armsmen and heros after, however it is true that all heavy tanks need love for the sake of survival and simply being able to have fun, rather then just being there for target practise like we are now.

Regarding the double-spec though, no, Armsmen damage is not 'gimped' but aside from 1 or 2 decent styles the damage is nothing to write home about either, and is still a mere shadow of merc's damage over time, who get to do even more damage without being restricted to a 2H weapon which makes creating a good template a nightmare.

Armsmen can get by on a one to one bases but in the larger picture heavy tanks are fucked in general, and the latest TL reports clearly show that Mythic don't give a damn about tackling the problem either.
 

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Raven said:
on the flip side a 50 LW 42 shield 39 parry 6 blade specced hero hits for virtually nothing with 1 hand (30-60 lol) All heavy tanks have it hard these days, not just the "poor" old armsman.

Why would an LW spec Hero use anything other then LW? They should only use Shield to Slam then switch back to LW.

No flame intended, but I just don't see your point TBH.
 

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Kagato said:
Visually its been a long while since i've had any good regular challenges, mostly just kiting cowards that annoy me to fight.

I don't even bother trying to solo emain now though, I find around Renaris seems to be the best spot for it these days, much to the expers dismay im sure.
Met you only once at Old odin's border. Luckily I won it, and there's no chance rematching ;)

But anyways, lemme refresh my memory:

alb stealther - so many. If I must pick one: Natael + Jua duo. Hated those 2 runnin along.
hib stealther - Varjozek (lol). Brave soloer.

alb non-stealther - Madtank, never won in 1vs1
hib non-stealther - can't recall anyone by name that I met more that once in 1vs1.
 

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Salamurhaaja said:
Met you only once at Old odin's border. Luckily I won it, and there's no chance rematching ;)

But anyways, lemme refresh my memory:

alb stealther - so many. If I must pick one: Natael + Jua duo. Hated those 2 runnin along.
hib stealther - Varjozek (lol). Brave soloer.

alb non-stealther - Madtank, never won in 1vs1
hib non-stealther - can't recall anyone by name that I met more that once in 1vs1.

Yup, 1 and only SB to win me 1 on 1 in a straight fair fight with all tricks up, pity theres not more like that around, all others seem content to whine about not having a chance instead of giving it a go.

However we did have a couple of fights on excalibur road in OF but nothing memorable.
 

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alb stealther - Lxn, Binfil and Forb
mid stealther - Paradoxx, chaostar and grimster

alb non-stealther - Horner (ofc i only see him when he has both rr5+moc,,,)
mid non-stealther - nah
 

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Kagato said:
To be honest i'd be inclined to say that warriors fair best of the heavy tanks with Armsmen and heros after, however it is true that all heavy tanks need love for the sake of survival and simply being able to have fun, rather then just being there for target practise like we are now.

Regarding the double-spec though, no, Armsmen damage is not 'gimped' but aside from 1 or 2 decent styles the damage is nothing to write home about either, and is still a mere shadow of merc's damage over time, who get to do even more damage without being restricted to a 2H weapon which makes creating a good template a nightmare.

Armsmen can get by on a one to one bases but in the larger picture heavy tanks are fucked in general, and the latest TL reports clearly show that Mythic don't give a damn about tackling the problem either.

It already been Dark age of Tankalot, since toa its Dark age of Castalot
 

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