Yes or No?

[Cap'n Sissyfoo]

Radar: Can it see through stealth or not?

Not interested in 'ifs' or 'maybes'. After all this time there MUST be a concrete answer to this question.

 

[Tilda]

no

 

[xplo]

no, it greys out when a player stealths xDDDDDDDDD

 

[samildanachh]

idd it cant

 

[Keogh]

If, as has been said, no info of where a stealthed char is is sent to a computer with radar on then theres no way it can.

 

[-yoda-]

dunNO ... but i heard a lot of people say comp doesnt pick up bit n bobs from server-side about stealthers although i beg to differ cos i can ussually sense a stealther around JUST by my lag (90% time one pops on me when i feel lag) so if thats the case why do i lag if no bits n bobs are telling me a styealther is close untill he pops?

p.s ANYBODY and EVERYBODY who uses those sort of hacks etc should have there acc's banned .. named n shamed . chars deleted then have there balls cut off cheating bastids

 

[wiseguy1]

hmm dont know anything about how the stuff works but when i played Theurg sometimes i saw stealthers from some distance.. further than i should be able 2.. prolly a bug and hopfully its been fixed ages ago.. but if no info is sent if im not supposed 2 see them how come i could sometimes?

 

[tildson]

no idea, never tried any radar at all

 

[adari]

/me expects moo to spam his mr nutty professor wannabe leet theories, s00n, here, whoa

 

[old.Nol]

According to the guy who wrote Odins Eye(Radar software) it is impossible.

 

[Cabo-]

-- Much improved rendering performance due to optimized math routines and logic reorganization.
-- Stealthed players gray out when they stealth.
-- Updated OS X and BSD sniffer to fix fragmentation problems.
-- Some minor bug fixes.

yes (i think)

 

[froler-mid]

no, never seen anyone use it either.


(tho i tend too find loads of sb/hunters behind trees, "usual campspots" etc.... IRL radar imo)

 

[scrow2]

what -yoda- said....if I dont get info at my client about steathers, why do I get massive lag when some steathers are near ?

So I think you can see steathers via radar.

ps. the "lag" bug abuse is far more lame then a radar imo.

 

[hellige]

you cant find info that is not there

 

[old.anubis]

it works on mac?
didnt know, nice =)

 

[Lumikki]

So what is this infamous "radar" anyway? I get the general idea but... ? Is there proof that people actually use it?

xx

 

[Iswind]

dont know dont care..

ppl that use that kinda hacks are sad ppl and maybe they need it to boost their selfesteem :/

 

[Stormm]

still have never seen it or know anyone admit to using it. only thing i have heard is that u need linux box to use it - that mean that some people have 2 comps (with bot) and another with lunux... 3 comps set up just to play a game!! cripes :/

although some ppl really are stupid and dont realise that by using legal methods can be used to give info on nme whearabouts - had someone insinuate something about me not so long ago ffs ... am i the only one who does such things as notice inc lag as chars loaded from clip, clicky on friendly chars and monitor their hp's etc

if it don't help you see stealthed chars then i dont see its much use for them, and if ur not stealth char then u prolly run in grp and its not hard to find nme's in emain/odins etc so tbh i don't really see how it can help all that much

But: if it does show stealthed players then would explain why im jumped soooo much with my 50 stealth mincer (yes i know about SH but still happens in the strangest of places too) - if this is so then that really does suk and gives a huge advantage.

someone must know surely

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by Stormm
still have never seen it or know anyone admit to using it. only thing i have heard is that u need linux box to use it - that mean that some people have 2 comps (with bot) and another with lunux... 3 comps set up just to play a game!! cripes :/

ppl use it, and on excalibur too (maybe not now, but half a year ago for sure)
and you dont have to use 2-3 pcs, works fine with only one
vmware and such should work i think

 

[old.Nol]

There is a number of pieces of software, the common one you don't have to pay for requires a packet sniffer on a nix release, linux is good, but so is mac os x and it can be compiled for other nix flavours if you have the hardware.

They are currently trying to make a pc version, according to the fella who wrote it, it works for XP already because XP basically lifted the BSD network stack.

I know this, because I was asking the same questions about the software a couple of months ago and went and asked the guy who made it.

No I don't use it, anyone who has played against or with me knows that I am too crap to be using a radar

 

[nightsorrow]

DUNnO

 

[hellige]

Location information on characters who are stealthed and not visible to you (not in translucent form) *IS NOT SENT TO THE CLIENT*. Any person who claims that they were strealthed and a radar user ran directly at them from out of visual range is a liar. This /might/ be possible with an assassins with high stealth, but a normal tank / caster does not have the stealthers position information sent to them until they are actually physically visible to the player (this is mostly true anyway, you migh get 1 UDP position or heading update before the stealther is visible, but that packet arrives within 100-200 ms of the player becoming visible, so I'd hardly consider that a warning).

 

[old.Odysseus]

yes

 

[-yoda-]

Originally posted by scrow2
.

ps. the "lag" bug abuse is far more lame then a radar imo.

try playing on my comp for a week or so n see if its abuse . only fooker thats gettin abused when im on my comp is ME . cos my lag sucks so bad

500mhz comp
built in via-chip set gfx card
AoHell (AOL) isp
56K modem

im sure if everybody played with my comp they would of quit a LONG LONG time ago

n i still do think stealthers are sent cos no other explination is there as to why i get lag spikes , then few seconds later a stealth zerg pops on me .

im a tech idiot i dont know differnce from my floppy disc to my hard drive but summin must be being sent to my comp if i can feel the lag of stealthers in area.,

 

[old.Ramas]

They can't see you if you are stealthed.

Some radar programs remember where someone stealthed and continue to show a ghost in that position.

They can see you though when you are in 'outline' view on screen (like under See Hidden).

afaik

 

[behatch]

aparantly original alpha used radar,not sure if he could see stealthers or not though.I have seen incidents that you would bet you life on that there useing radar

e.g Was at amg-N hill,some wizard came running up and used MoC and use Pbaoe on me? now then,thats not luck imo!

 

[phule_gubben]

Originally posted by -yoda-


p.s ANYBODY and EVERYBODY who uses those sort of hacks etc should have there acc's banned .. named n shamed . chars deleted then have there balls cut off cheating bastids

AMEN to that!

 

[Aloca]

Originally posted by -yoda-
dunNO ... but i heard a lot of people say comp doesnt pick up bit n bobs from server-side about stealthers although i beg to differ cos i can ussually sense a stealther around JUST by my lag (90% time one pops on me when i feel lag) so if thats the case why do i lag if no bits n bobs are telling me a styealther is close untill he pops?

p.s ANYBODY and EVERYBODY who uses those sort of hacks etc should have there acc's banned .. named n shamed . chars deleted then have there balls cut off cheating bastids

Read somewhere that yes Radar will pick up stealthers before u spot them, like your lagg thing, but it is only a 1sec warning, think it can be used when u know a stealther is close tho as he then show on radar.

Originally posted by Stormm
still have never seen it or know anyone admit to using it. only thing i have heard is that u need linux box to use it - that mean that some people have 2 comps (with bot) and another with lunux... 3 comps set up just to play a game!! cripes :/

although some ppl really are stupid and dont realise that by using legal methods can be used to give info on nme whearabouts - had someone insinuate something about me not so long ago ffs ... am i the only one who does such things as notice inc lag as chars loaded from clip, clicky on friendly chars and monitor their hp's etc

if it don't help you see stealthed chars then i dont see its much use for them, and if ur not stealth char then u prolly run in grp and its not hard to find nme's in emain/odins etc so tbh i don't really see how it can help all that much

But: if it does show stealthed players then would explain why im jumped soooo much with my 50 stealth mincer (yes i know about SH but still happens in the strangest of places too) - if this is so then that really does suk and gives a huge advantage.

someone must know surely

If someone have SH his detect range get bigger and there for also the range away from him that server sends data. there for if u are refering to before SH nerf someone with it could much likely see u on radar like anyone not stealthed

 

[Alkoran]

Would it be possible that the lag caused by steathers is a preceeding packet that simply says, "Load xxx graphics" that is sent when the stealther gets near, so you don't lose to much time to lag when they actually unstealth?

Well I think it's a good idea, if it doesn't do it then it should

 

[angrysquirrel]

it does now