Xfear

[old.Icebreaker]

Just want to thank Xfear for his nice Galladoria Raids

Good Planning and most important: very fair lotto

Keep up the good work!


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[Hestetun]

Keep up the work Hero

 

[Triskin]

 

[Gesp]

Every raid is good, most lottos are fair, except the thing he gets shetloads of drops leftover every raid and still writes points to himself, which i dont find so fair tbh plus the thing he never give leftover drops to ppl interested with the reason of 'i give them to high RR players' etc, but better give it someone fancy rather than someone ignored the raid and didnt deserve it?

 

[Nemue]

imo if noone claims the item at the lotto the raidleader may do whatever he wishes with the items.

And I agree with Icebreaker, Xfears raids i've been on is by FAR the most organised raids and has the best lottosystem i've seen so far.

Keep it up m8.

 

[panos_gr]

yeah fair raids and the best point system ever but still agree with gesp

 

[xfear]

I dont use the left overs i got each raid, so, why must I stop putting me points?, if i dont like the items that were drop ? , im just going for lightwalkers blade, Hero chestplate, and maybe some drops for my bard or enchanter

All galla items that im using, were not from my raids, I bought them , yeah, i bought the verdant spear, i bought the vinebound shield, etc, for an amount of cash that i got crafting ( im legendary WeaponCrafter )

 

[panos_gr]

for no misunderstandings im ok with u putting points..im sure u r looking for some uber dops that u didnt get yet..i just think that the drops that are not lottoed should be disposed in other way

 

[riko238]

Rofl no galla raid today for xfear bah that sucks.. Get up with the servers and new passwords

 

[Eleasias]

You should list the items here and make a lotto for people you know have been on your raids or something, or have more than 5 points (havent won anything "recently" on lottos). Winning an item in this lotto would NOT reset your "proper" raid points though. Would get rid of the useless loot and people who havent won anything would be happy for a while.

 

[cjkaceBM]

Originally posted by xfear
I dont use the left overs i got each raid, so, why must I stop putting me points?, if i dont like the items that were drop ? , im just going for lightwalkers blade, Hero chestplate, and maybe some drops for my bard or enchanter

All galla items that im using, were not from my raids, I bought them , yeah, i bought the verdant spear, i bought the vinebound shield, etc, for an amount of cash that i got crafting ( im legendary WeaponCrafter )

Hmm let me get this straight.

You don't enter lottos and get +10 every time?

You keep all the unwanted stuff and sell it?

While I think it is up to you to do what you want with left-overs, please don't be hypocritical and say you don't use it, as you quite clearly do. You sell it and use the cash.

 

[xfear]

I will no lotto for an item until hero chestplate, or light walkers blade, will drop, couse they are the items im looking for,so i will keep all points i can for those items, cant i do that ?

Im keeping all left overs yes, but im not selling them, like a merchant, or in a auction or something like that, im NOT salvaging the items, only keeping them, what to do with them ? i dont know yet ( i gave many items to some players for free too, yes ), but if u ask me for an item u need, and i have it, why cant i sell it to u for a low price ? not very very low, but yes lower than others. i can sell the items for his fair price, but i dont want to do that, so if u ask me for an item i have, i will sell it to u, for a low price , cant i do that ?

I dont know why all theese complaints

If u have any problem or something, just PM me in game, and ill try to solve it

 

[Dinfar]

Originally posted by cjkaceBM
Hmm let me get this straight.

You don't enter lottos and get +10 every time?

You keep all the unwanted stuff and sell it?

While I think it is up to you to do what you want with left-overs, please don't be hypocritical and say you don't use it, as you quite clearly do. You sell it and use the cash.

imo, he get all the leftover shitty drops that no one wants, as it is his raid that is fair.

and as he is not lotto'ing for anything, ofc he should get 10 points!

If you wanna get some leftover drops, organize a raid yourself

 

[Gesp]

Originally posted by Dinfar
imo, he get all the leftover shitty drops

No, since that point thingy came up, plus 2-3 drop off every boss.

 

[Eleasias]

My idea is the best one ok.

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by Eleasias
You should list the items here and make a lotto for people you know have been on your raids or something, or have more than 5 points (havent won anything "recently" on lottos). Winning an item in this lotto would NOT reset your "proper" raid points though. Would get rid of the useless loot and people who havent won anything would be happy for a while.

:eek2:
i agree with you

wtf's happening to me?

 

[Ravenbourne]

As far as i thought raid leaders always kept the left overs, perk of the job, its up to him to do what he wants with them, tbh anything really good would of been lottoed for, only the "tat" left over

 

[Alkoran]

Why is the desitiny of left overs never stated in the raid rules at the begining of the raid?

As I recall raid leaders stated this for the old legion raids.

Giving out items for free as stated seems unfair as there is no arranged way in which to state your need for such items so it is purely at the discretion of the raid leader.

Selling them for personal gain also seems unfair, if as a raid leader you wish some payment for organising the raid, state this up front. Many people have absolutly no problem with raid leaders taking a profit from their raids, but sneaking a profit and claiming to be taking none does not look good at all.

The previously mentioned idea of lottoing unwanted drops on the forums seems the best so far, but the normal lotto rules should apply (i.e. you can only lotto for an item you will make use of)

If an item still remains without an owner after the drops have been advertised on the forums could be stored until someone can use it.

If these items can be sold to people they are clearly not worthless and many who have no won anything on the raid lottos so far would use them if they did not have to surrender platinum which they may need to complete spell crafted equipment or may be put to better use by their guild as a whole.

 

[censi]

its amazing how many wonderful suggestions people have on what to do with someone elses items.

The hassle this guy goes through to keeps lists of all your points and run these raids pretty much on a tri weekly basis. He guides a zerg of 50 people through the dungeon for 5 hours. He gives himself no bonus or bias on items he wants that drop on his raid. And the whining that was coming from people after the raid about the items no ONE lotto'd for. Its not even like he keeps or sells for personel profit. If theres an item left over from a raid you want and feel you should get then you should have lotto'd for it. You would have automatically won it by default. If it dont get lotto'd then raid leader keeps as he sees fit. And trust me most left over items are pretty much junk.

You will not get fairer raids than what this guy does so make the most of it. Theres absolultly nothing to whine about here it was a "thank you" thread.

oh and btw ofc. You dont like the lotto rules you dont have to go.

 

[talivarevil]

Its the 1 benefit of leading raids and imo raid leaders deserve it.Like censi said if u wanted an item thats now leftover u shoulkd have lottoed for it.

 

[Gesp]

Yes ur f.ckin uber too way far smart, we cant think to lotto for an item we wanted apparently, /clap ..

What i mean is, sometimes nobody meeting the lotto restriction wants it, ie no 49+ ppl to lotto for a wep and someone 47 wants to lotto for it, and Xfear takes the rule too serious in the name of being fair, to keep the item for himself. (I experienced a similar thing myself with him, but wont tell it here, doesnt mind anyways.) Dont think giving the item to that person does any harm to you, and is a lot better than givin (prolly sellin) the item to someone (and prolly a friend) didnt participate in the raid.

Hope u got it this time.

 

[xfear]

U know the rules, why did u come with a 47 char? , for exp ? if u want to lotto for youre MP items, come with a 49+ , or dont come, its youre choice, I only gave MP items to people 49 - who where in the raid, with theese conditions :

1º no one else wanted to lotto for it

2º its a support char ( mana ment, void eldri, animist, bard , etcetc) and he told me to bring his support char instead of his main before the raid begins

I will NO change any rule atm, so what do u want with all theese whines? do u want me to stop leading raids to galladoria ? , if u want it, just tell it

Im not the fairest person in the world, couse i CANT make happy to all people who whine me, if u dont accept the rules, then why did u come to the raid ?

All theese whines can make someone to be angry, so im sorry if i disturbed someone

 

[Gesp]

If you give the item to someone anyways, give it to someone tagged along and participated the raid, rather than someone catching rps in emain. Otherwise, u lie about keepin 'em to give to high rr persons etcetc. Thats why u get angry, not coz we're whining.

Reign was a preclaimer, had no points list etc, and not used to care for 2-item-lottoers or class/spec restrictions. (suffered them once with him too :/) You do those things much better, but claim too much items in the name of being fair. Just be nicer and you will still have leftover drops, and there will be few more happy people around.

 

[Alkoran]

Originally posted by censi
its amazing how many wonderful suggestions people have on what to do with someone elses items.

The hassle this guy goes through to keeps lists of all your points and run these raids pretty much on a tri weekly basis. He guides a zerg of 50 people through the dungeon for 5 hours. He gives himself no bonus or bias on items he wants that drop on his raid. And the whining that was coming from people after the raid about the items no ONE lotto'd for. Its not even like he keeps or sells for personel profit. If theres an item left over from a raid you want and feel you should get then you should have lotto'd for it. You would have automatically won it by default. If it dont get lotto'd then raid leader keeps as he sees fit. And trust me most left over items are pretty much junk.

You will not get fairer raids than what this guy does so make the most of it. Theres absolultly nothing to whine about here it was a "thank you" thread.

oh and btw ofc. You dont like the lotto rules you dont have to go.

Once again (and not for the last time I expect)

It is not in debate that the raid leader deserves a reward for leading the raid.
However, people strongly object to not being told when this is happening and how it is happening.

I recall a legion raid in which the leader had preclaimed an item, but only told the "big people on the raiding scene at the time" the item dropped and the leader took it, of course there was outcry amongst many who had gone on the raid(the item being much desired at the time), but all the "important people" said it was ok, so everyone else was left without a way to fight their case without getting told it was a preclaim raid and to stop whining like a n00b and give the leader some credit.

Gotta cut it short here, gotta go

 

[Shrye]

If you don't like the girl in the bakery, goto a pizzaria... or something.

His raid, his rules. Your raid, your own rules... If you could get off your lazy butt and organize one. Stop whining ffs.

 

[Dinfar]

Originally posted by Shrye
If you don't like the girl in the bakery, goto a pizzaria... or something.

His raid, his rules. Your raid, your own rules... If you could get off your lazy butt and organize one. Stop whining ffs.

Listen to Prutjagteren!

 

[chrstffr]

is dat so?

 

[cercela]

i agree with censi. Leading a raid is in no means easy. Censi knows from experience. I know fro leading a small BG raid. You want to pul your hair out numbers of times.

the rules clearly state to loto for MP item you must be 49+

thus if you are not 49+ why should you even bother. Also if you came to the raid and didnt loto then you get +10 points. And if you lotod (for a Respec stone or somethin) and lost, why should you get a second loto?

I personally thank Xfear loads his raids are always great and fun and fair.

I've never been on his galla raid, but was on his raid to Formor once. But I'vebeen on galla raids 3 times and never won a lotto. I really didnt mind, and all the left over drops oh well, to hell with them. shift-d them for all I care, iddint lotto for them, didnt really want to, and dont care how he desposes with them.

 

[censi]

leading the raid isnt hard. its just demanding. you cant switch off for a few moments or stick to go make a coffe or roll a splif or whatever. you have to be there on the ball keeping things ticking over.. so its 5 hours solid computer gaming coping with PM's and keeping the zerg toghter.

id never even heard of xfear b4 galla. but he has done a damn fine job doing these raids. It sets a high standard as if others come along and want to raids, peeps will have to meet the same standards or the zerg will break rank and start moaning. (or just wont turn up)

I needed about 5 things from galla. b4 that i couldnt be assed with the place. Xfears raid point system meant its taken me about 20 raids to get those 5 items. Whereas normally it would take 500. The more you loose the more chance u have next time. This is the best thing sinced sliced bread.

 

[old.Icebreaker]

ufff. allready turned into a flame thread.

If you want to whine then make a new thread and not here.

This is a Thank you Threaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad