Film X-Men Origins: Wolverine

[Amphrax]

I just watched it and it so rox... A must see...

 

[Overdriven]

Wait.. Did you watch the LEGAL version, or the thing that got released which was incomplete? I'm either waiting for cinema release, or BR-Rip for this.

 

[Ch3tan]

only the incomplete version is doing the rounds... and it has been slated on every review I have read. I do not expect anything good.

 

[BloodOmen]

Isn't out yet in any cinema, they don't even have the film roles yet so it was the incomplete version in which case no verdict can be given.

 

[Ch3tan]

What do you mean the do not have the roles yet? Filming is done, it is a workprint without all the cgi in place that has been released.

 

[BloodOmen]

What do you mean the do not have the roles yet? Filming is done, it is a workprint without all the cgi in place that has been released.

I know what it is Ch3tan, you can still see the greenscreens and wires on the actors etc, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out what it is and how far in production it is.

 

[megadave]

It's incomplete but only special effects wise, a few incomplete CGI animations, wires not removed etc. Can still tell exactly what the film will be like, which to be honest is utter shit, i have no idea what aspects you're calling awesome.

Wolverine's storyline is almost true to the his original story, every other side character seems to just be there for the sake of it, despite being pretty different to how they're meant to be. The script is pretty dull and predictable, the acting isn't anything to write home about, I can't really think of anything good about it.

They even managed to ruin Gambit somehow.

 

[Ch3tan]

You may want to check on the release date if that is what you believe BloodOmen. how far into production do you think they are then?

 

[megadave]

all the filming and scene editting is finished, just a few cgi bits missing and about 2 lines of dialogue are subtitled rather than dubbed

 

[old.Tohtori]

The reason people are giving it bad reviews is this;

They can't see the movie as the effect extravaganza it is, so they discuss the story and other elements.

They are expecting some "huge dramatic story arch 'n such", when it's a freakin' superhero movie

People these days..pfft.

 

[Narzeja]

They are expecting some "huge dramatic story arch 'n such", when it's a freakin' superhero movie

That's like expecting a terrific plot and awesome acting from a porn movie.

 

[old.Tohtori]

That's like expecting a terrific plot and awesome acting from a porn movie.

Aye, i always criticize porn because i don't feel connected to the hot secretary that's pushing a thermos up her bum

 

[Lethul]

The reason people are giving it bad reviews is this;

They can't see the movie as the effect extravaganza it is, so they discuss the story and other elements.

They are expecting some "huge dramatic story arch 'n such", when it's a freakin' superhero movie

People these days..pfft.

You are starting to sound like a broken record as soon as someone slate a shit movie.

You know even lighthearted action movies can be shit ye?

 

[BloodOmen]

You may want to check on the release date if that is what you believe BloodOmen. how far into production do you think they are then?

The release date was meant to be the 29th of april, thats what it was a few months ago cba to check it now.

 

[old.Tohtori]

You are starting to sound like a broken record as soon as someone slate a shit movie.

You know even lighthearted action movies can be shit ye?

Yes i know, but the "broken record" point stands.

If it's a sh*t action movie fair enough, but you can't judge an action movie that is about superheroes, effects and such, without actually seeing the final product.

If there's no finalized CGI, it means you're judging the story, which is...as said above...like judging a pornstory.

 

[Ch3tan]

If you do not know when it is being released, then maybe you should not offer your opinions about how finished it is. Especially when trying to contradict people who have checked?

Toht: Superhero movie's are at their best when they have a good plot and are not all just action. The first Spiderman, and X-men films, The two latest Batman films. Good acting, and a good script combined with action. As opposed to Daredevil, Electra, Punisher War Zone, Hell Boy (1 +2). Why are we settling for crap, especially from the X-Men universe which is full of great characters and stories, Wolverine has some of the best back-story going and if they have fucked it up in favour of action over content then I will not be happy.

 

[BloodOmen]

If you do not know when it is being released, then maybe you should not offer your opinions about how finished it is. Especially when trying to contradict people who have checked?

Toht: Superhero movie's are at their best when they have a good plot and are not all just action. The first Spiderman, and X-men films, The two latest Batman films. Good acting, and a good script combined with action. As opposed to Daredevil, Electra, Punisher War Zone, Hell Boy (1 +2). Why are we settling for crap, especially from the X-Men universe which is full of great characters and stories, Wolverine has some of the best back-story going and if they have fucked it up in favour of action over content then I will not be happy.

My original point is that it wasn't finished which it isn't and I stand by that, finishing touches need to be added and its not due out for another month yet (the 1st of may, to be more precise 28 days 11 hours 55 minutes 37 seconds)

As for contradicting people, yes I was and stand by it because due to it not being finished fully yet cinemas do not and will not have the reels and will not have them until 1-2 weeks before its due for release.

And as for not knowing when it was released I said the 29th of april, just because I didn't check up on the new date doesn't mean I don't know how far along in production it is... the filming is done the special effects and cgi are not in short (as I also quite clearly said before).

So stop trying to be a big man Ch3tan and failing

 

[old.Tohtori]

Toht: Superhero movie's are at their best when they have a good plot and are not all just action. The first Spiderman, and X-men films, The two latest Batman films. Good acting, and a good script combined with action. As opposed to Daredevil, Electra, Punisher War Zone, Hell Boy (1 +2). Why are we settling for crap, especially from the X-Men universe which is full of great characters and stories, Wolverine has some of the best back-story going and if they have fucked it up in favour of action over content then I will not be happy.

Electra, hellboy 1+2 were good movies(while daredevil sits nicely on the fence) to me. Hellboy especially had a fitting plot and the whole experience(including cgi that needs to be good) worked. BAtman on the other hand, first new one was good, but second rode too much on joker(and didn't show enough funnily) and the "gloom batman". It wasn't really an "exiting thrilling plot ride".

I'm not saying that action movies dno't need a plot, i'm saying they shouldn't be judged mostly on it, as has happened here.

People judge action movies TOO MUCH like some, say, no country for old men style movie.Too much being the key issue.

 

[Ch3tan]

I'm not judging it at all yet, I simply do not expect anything from it. From what I have read I expect a movie aimed at kids, and that saddens me. It will be spiderman 3 all over again.

Bloodomen, you said even the roles were not finalised yet. So maybe you should stop trying to act the man?

 

[PLightstar]

The X-men films were terrible, the first and second ones were just about ok but the third was totally unwatchable same goes for Spiderman 1 and 2 ok and the third one goes down the pan. I agree with the Joker in the dark knight, it didn't show the Joker being the Joker and Ledgers laugh was nothing compared to Mark Hamil's Joker's laugh.

I have been looking forward to Wolverine and with Marvel taking the helm I was hoping for soemthing on par with the quality of Iron man and the new Hulk, I will reserve judgement till I actually see it. I am not a fan of Hugh Jackman but you can't have everything myway.

Really enjoyed the Hellboy series, unlike other comic to movie hollywood films I had never read any of the comics and enjoyed since watching the films I have read some of the comics and love them aswell.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm not judging it at all yet, I simply do not expect anything from it. From what I have read I expect a movie aimed at kids, and that saddens me. It will be spiderman 3 all over again.

Didn't' mean to imply you did, meant people in general.

 

[Jeremiah]

Seems the studio is rather miffed that an early version has been leaked:

BBC NEWS | Entertainment | FBI called in over Wolverine leak

 

[megadave]

Surely it must be someone working at the CGI company who leaked it?


Anyway if you'd seen this leaked copy, you'll know that no amount of CGI will be able to save it. Simply put, it is not a very good film. I heard a rumour that they plan on refilming 15 minutes but no source has been provided, even then i don't think it's fixable.

If i'm honest, i think the 3rd X-Men film was a bit better than it.

 

[BloodOmen]

Seems the studio is rather miffed that an early version has been leaked:

BBC NEWS | Entertainment | FBI called in over Wolverine leak

Wouldn't you be ? might not be a very good film (or it may) regardless how much did it cost to make it and they've just lost millions because of an early leak.

 

[BloodOmen]

I'm not judging it at all yet, I simply do not expect anything from it. From what I have read I expect a movie aimed at kids, and that saddens me. It will be spiderman 3 all over again.

Bloodomen, you said even the roles were not finalised yet. So maybe you should stop trying to act the man?

I thought that part would have been obvious? if the CGI effects have yet to be added clearly the reels arent finished? unless you class "effectless" movies as finished?

 

[Lethul]

Toht: Superhero movie's are at their best when they have a good plot and are not all just action. The first Spiderman, and X-men films, The two latest Batman films. Good acting, and a good script combined with action. As opposed to Daredevil, Electra, Punisher War Zone, Hell Boy (1 +2). Why are we settling for crap, especially from the X-Men universe which is full of great characters and stories, Wolverine has some of the best back-story going and if they have fucked it up in favour of action over content then I will not be happy.

Word

 

[megadave]

I thought that part would have been obvious? if the CGI effects have yet to be added clearly the reels arent finished? unless you class "effectless" movies as finished?

You can still make an incomplete verdict for an incomplete film though.

 

[BloodOmen]

You can still make an incomplete verdict for an incomplete film though.

Silence Aoln

 

[old.Tohtori]

Word

What word?

 

[Ezteq]

omg why would you watch the leaked version??? jeesus thats like looking in the cupboard to see what christmas prezzies you are going to get before they get wrapped up!

no way on earth i would watch it until its released tbh i wouldnt want to watch something imprefect and unfinished just so i could say "old" when it came out at the cinema and then ruin the experience for myself.

I am really looking forward to seeing this and tbh none of the movies were anything like the comics/cartoons which i also am a huge fan of, i like the movies as seperate entities, i try not to compare them to the cartoons because they are so different it would spoil it. and tbh you can take the serious oscar winning movies and stick them up something nasty because thats what LoTR was and boy (imo) that was the most painful thing ever, seeing a brilliant story become a bunch of sentimental "brilliant" performances, i'd rather of had more shoddy stuff that was enjoyable to watch...fucking hobbits!!

anyway i digress, its all personal opinion (as you can see mine probably vary dramatically from everyone elses on the whole planets with reguard to lotr) about whether you like the film or not but jeeeze at least wait and see the proper version to judge it because anything would be a bit shit if you can still see the strings (thunderbirds anyone?)