WTS Shades of mist

[Euphoria]

Why? lol, although he seems to think the "give it away" option is funny, if his guild helped him raise 16p then he should have given one of them the SoM if he doesn't intend to use it? Because he needs money is pointless because in the end he'll no doubt end up needing it again and have to farm another one. A the moment the entire realm needs to do "need before greed" with the artifacts where if you don't intend to use it let someone else have it.

God damn hippy

 

[vintervargen]

what Pin said is pretty correct, just that is one catch.

people with rare artifacts (or hard) might demand ridiculous prices for them, since the know casual players that wants then, will never have the time/possibility to get them.

so instead of selling for a normal price, their greed make the price go up.

:/

 

[Belomar]

That's true, Vargen, and it's bad. For instance, SoM is not particularly hard to do, but it is rare. Pricing that one high is regrettable, but it is the "Invisible Hand". Other encounters that take a larger group and more coordination should, if sold, be priced accordingly high. For instance, Foppish Sleeves, Flamedancer's Boots, and Eriny's Charm are all artifacts very few casual players will be able to get anyway, except by paying potentially a lot of money to the people who have the time and capability to do them. (Of course, then there is the issue of how to get credit for these, but that's another story.)

As for Acei, maybe you have failed to see how money is oiling any economy, including the DAoC one, but it is a fact of life. Bemoaning people taking artifact mobs that are up is futile because it is simply human nature.

 

[Pin]

what Pin said is pretty correct, just that is one catch.

people with rare artifacts (or hard) might demand ridiculous prices for them, since the know casual players that wants then, will never have the time/possibility to get them.

so instead of selling for a normal price, their greed make the price go up.

:/

As I said above. Quick and expensive, or patient and cheap.
As more people get the artifacts activated, less people want them, more become available and prices drop.
I know people who have been trying to get artifacts like SoM for several hours a day for over a month without being lucky (losing rolls, not being there for spawn, or whatever)... I'd just ask why would a casual player take this kind of gamble with their valuable time? The DAoC market economy works just as well in their favour as it does against them - i.e. there is nothing stopping them selling items to other people and making that cash back (often much, much quicker than the guy camping the artifact spawn is making cash - 3 hours last night = 50-100p market value for items farmed ).
Afterall, where does the cash go? It just goes round and round the market, people sell items to make cash so they can buy items. People who manage to sell things at high prices are more likely to buy something from you at high prices (that they are too busy/lazy to farm - just look at those lovely AD chaps, selling artifacts/drops left, right and centre, and perfectly willing to be extorted into paying 10x as much as anybody else for something 'good' that you have... 'more money than sense').

Don't be afraid of high prices. You don't have to snap up the first one you see. And most of all, you don't have to cry all the time about someone doing what they want to in game. If they want to sell a drop they have it is their right to do so. It's the reason we have a trade window in the game in the first place.

 

[fatcat]

As I said above. Quick and expensive, or patient and cheap.
As more people get the artifacts activated, less people want them, more become available and prices drop.
I know people who have been trying to get artifacts like SoM for several hours a day for over a month without being lucky (losing rolls, not being there for spawn, or whatever)... I'd just ask why would a casual player take this kind of gamble with their valuable time? The DAoC market economy works just as well in their favour as it does against them - i.e. there is nothing stopping them selling items to other people and making that cash back (often much, much quicker than the guy camping the artifact spawn is making cash - 3 hours last night = 50-100p market value for items farmed ).
Afterall, where does the cash go? It just goes round and round the market, people sell items to make cash so they can buy items. People who manage to sell things at high prices are more likely to buy something from you at high prices (that they are too busy/lazy to farm - just look at those lovely AD chaps, selling artifacts/drops left, right and centre, and perfectly willing to be extorted into paying 10x as much as anybody else for something 'good' that you have... 'more money than sense').

Don't be afraid of high prices. You don't have to snap up the first one you see. And most of all, you don't have to cry all the time about someone doing what they want to in game. If they want to sell a drop they have it is their right to do so. It's the reason we have a trade window in the game in the first place.

might i add that we actually sold 'em pretty damn cheap
too. but still people whines like crying babies. but we all
know the truth, and that is that if they could they would
be doing the exact same thing, they're just mad because
they don't have all their artifacts.

 

[Tay]

If you cannot be there to kill it for credit, how are you going to kill it to get the artifact?

Getting credit is much simpler - just find any random people doing an encounter and ask them if you can join a BG, or do the encounter with a few people who want it, lose the roll, get credit, buy the artifact.

Touche re: actually getting the artifact, people say they dont have time etc etc.

I'm finding even getting credit is getting harder these days because of the whines that follow on FH, I have killed it 9 times now without the drop I went out and bought the damn thing only to find I didnt actually have credit :/, anyway was passing temple and somebody was doing him, all I needed was credit so I asked if they would mind me joining bg for credit only, the response was we dont have a BG and got no further replies to my questions.

I had a wee laugh to myself when they didnt get it either but hey its the thought that counted...

Due to the incessant bickering about arti's mainly on FH I'm sure many people are now considering it too hard to invite people for credit..which is a shame.