[WTK] Actual formula for calculating swing speed

Ensceptificamuralya

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I'd like to know the effect of weapon speed, quickness and haste on weapon swing speed. I know there's a tool for it, but I'd like to have the formula.

I recently found that the effect of +nurture is quite big on the haste value of a warden, so I need to reevaluate my spec :p
 

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Effective Speed = SPD * ( 1 - ( Quickness - 60 ) / 500) ) * ( 1 - Haste%)
 

Ensceptificamuralya

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Thnx ( :

My warden haste is 68, I assume that's not 68%? ( :

Another warden I know has 6 more points in nurture, and he has 76 haste... quite big a difference.
 

Vodkafairy

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Haste value is twice as much as the actual haste %

So 34% for you

oh and delve value doesn't improve with more +skill items, delve will only show the base value of the spell without added bonus...

so he just has a higher level haste ;p
 

Ensceptificamuralya

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Hmm that's odd, because he swears his delved haste value is 76 (nurture 48 + 9, where I have 45 + 6) while mine is 68 : /
 

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38 Aggression of Nature Self 3.0s/20m/0s 34% haste 15% power
47 Reckoning of Nature Self 3.0s/20m/0s 38% haste 15% power

34 * 2 = 68 delve
38 * 2 = 76 delve.

hm, i recognise those numbers :p
 

Ensceptificamuralya

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Hmm so +nurture doesn't affect haste, and with 250 qui and a 4.4 blade, it's the difference between a swingspeed of 1.80 or 1.69.

I think I'll stay 45 nurt then :p
 

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Ensceptificamuralya said:
Hmm so +nurture doesn't affect haste, and with 250 qui and a 4.4 blade, it's the difference between a swingspeed of 1.80 or 1.69.

I think I'll stay 45 nurt then :p
Stay 45 nurture and get stuff that will boost your swing speed in TOA. Artifacts can probably reduce your swing speed to 1.5.

The cap is 25% melee speed bonus afaik, check out this site for info about artifacts:

http://www.toascrolls.com/scrolls/index.asp?action=artifacts
 

Ensceptificamuralya

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Hmm what about Mastery of Arms? ( : I'm not much of an item hunter. Where does the +3% from MoArms come into the formula?
 

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I don't know if this is a bug, but in the current version of daoc in the us it works like this:

Whichever value is lower (buff haste or item haste (toa items only)) will be halved:

Say you have 34% from your own haste, and 20% from ToA items.

34% > 20%

20% will be halved = 10%

total haste is 44%

and of course mastery of the arms, qui is not included in the 44%
 

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