[WTA] RA respec

[chrstffr]

Re: Re: Re: Re: LoL

Originally posted by Ensceptifica
You must be so unhappy then, seeing you never are. Ever.

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


And Eneq, you've always been biased, and I don't think you play much, so you just talk a lot of babble that might be suitable, were we living in a Utopian world or paradise, but this is life, and you just waste your breath talking of issues that neither concern you, nor do you have knowledge of.

We all are biased in 1 way or the other. Arnt we ?

So basically you are saying that chrstffr shouldnt open his mouth in first post here cause it dont concern him ?

Aye i agree with you.

I still play alot but not with you. TRying to ding my 6 char to 50.
And doing some farming gold meanwhile for houses.

 

[Arrows]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
well seeing as a vgn raid consists of vgn only, yeh they can do what the fuck they want.
think b4 you post.

Im still having trouble seeing your point ...?

Hows is it different that because the raid consisted of VGN, they can do with the the loot what they want.
A public raid consists of lots of mixed guild groups etc so cant they do what they want ..?

You said people are pr*cks for lottoing for something and then selling it. But that it is ok for VGN to do it.

The only reason so far that ive heard on as to why its ok for VGN to do this is because .... there VGN

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I think what your trying to say is that because VGN organised it and everyone took time out of there day yada yada they can do what they want. Well as i think has been said other people who go on public raids etc take time out of there days and public raids are harder because the players arent so well organised.

A question though ... i assume hive_don went on a raid with vengeance even though hes not part of the guild.
Now was it because he asked or was he invited because he was Needed. If he asked to join and rules such as lotto only for what you need were being used then yeh he probably shouldnt be selling it (although one can fairly say that one can also count as needing any money from the sale of the item).
If he was asked to join because a group needed a support class or tank or summit and there was no other VGN on at the time then he can do what ever he wants with it imo.

What ive found is often the commenest thing in a lot of these lotto/sell/flame threads is people going on the raid lottoing for an item and losing and then seeing these items being sold and then getting pissed off with the seller. Now the funny thing is, is that im sure theyve done the same many times with maybe lesser items and because now there on the recieving end they dont like it and they are gonna jump on there high horse and accuse the person of being lame because hes selling something someone needs. I think its hilarious, ironic, sad and disgusting for someone to accuse someone of being a bad person when the only reason they are accusing them is out of there own greed.
And when people say "Im not being greedy, he shouldnt be selling it" You are. If you weren't you wouldnt care what he does with it.
Its not greedy to go on a raid take x amount of time out of your day and try to get an item wether to sell it for money to buy an item you need maybe or to keep for yourself.


and dont write crap like think b4 you post when you write a one line response and swear in it as if it gets your point across louder because you can make the most noise.

I have no vested interest in this as i dont play daoc anymore.
But i do come to the forums time to time and a good arguement is so much fun !

 

[eneq]

Re: Re: Re: Re: LoL

Originally posted by Ensceptifica
You must be so unhappy then, seeing you never are. Ever.

Damn ...
Even a guy with my intilligence (sp) cant come back from such a punchline

But then again it wont take away the feeling im still right cause u all avoid the topic

 

[Spamb0t]

bleh cjkace.... :scared:

 

[old.Xanthian]

OMG arrows are you thick or juct fucking retarded ?

There has been set rules for ANY FFA raid that you do not sell the items.
Why would VGN make this rule for their own VGN only raid?
If we dont need it we sell it, I dont see your point, your just another fuckwit that has a bad opinion of VGN and jump on the LTES FLMAE VGENGACE!!!! badwagon.

Do yourself a favour and stfu

 

[findannain]

the only thing i've seen here so far is the rudeness that vgn people put aboard...am i the only one that sees this?

for the rest i don't care what people do with their drops. i'm just happy when i get what i need nothing else. if someone else gets the item he does what he wants with it simply because it's his.

 

[Arrows]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
OMG arrows are you thick or juct fucking retarded ?

There has been set rules for ANY FFA raid that you do not sell the items.
Why would VGN make this rule for their own VGN only raid?
If we dont need it we sell it, I dont see your point, your just another fuckwit that has a bad opinion of VGN and jump on the LTES FLMAE VGENGACE!!!! badwagon.

Do yourself a favour and stfu

First i made oobservations on statements you made, on how they were wrong and what you said to start with had nothing really to do with the thread.

"I tihnk if you took your head out your arse, you would find that VGN make thier OWN raids in their OWN time. "

"If you go on a raid and lotto for something with the intention to sell, your a ****, nuff said."

I found these two lines VERY funny

You see VGN might not make that a rule for there raid but that wasnt what you was refering too


Then i tried to understand what was going on by asking more about it all.

"And they can sell wtf they want as the item is not from the FFA raids."

See as i said cos i aint playing daoc anymore (and when i did i hated raids because they are so shite) i dont know anyhting about what FFA is even.
Thats why i was asking about the rules etc and how thatd affect whether i thought don acted badly or not.

And no i dont like vengeance in the sense many of there members have bad attitudes from my experiences on the board on the past and to this day but hte reason i posted had nothing to do with that ... it was cos you was talking shit my friend.
And that ... that bugs me.
The fact youve replied with NOTHING to counter act what ive said cept again for oneliners and swearing, which funnily enough reminds me of a small kid whining he hasnt got his own way.

Come on redeem yourself gimme summit smart

 

[Arrows]

ah shuvit i dont care im gonna go back to obscurity

 

[1Jesta]

Someone summarise please, I got kinda bored halfway thru page 2..

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by Arrows
So VGN can sell what they like what comes from there raids.
But people in a public raid cant sell what they like....

People in a public raid are a **** for doing a raid to get an item to sell it
But its ok for a VGN member to do a raid with the intention to sell anything that drops...

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Okay from the fragmented info in this thread I gather:

- Someone went along on a private VNG raid, for whatever reason.
- VNG people deem it fine for a VNG member to sell something coming from a VNG raid.
- VNG people deem it not fine for a non-VNG member tagging along with them to sell something from a VNG raid; they do let him lotto for own use.
- VNG people sometimes tag along on FFA raids. In those cases, they adhere to the FFA raid rules; thus, they don't sell things they lotto for.

Is that correct? Might be nice to get the facts straight before going for eachother's throats.

And it doesn't require intelligence to grab a dictionary and look up the proper way to spell intelligence. The fact that you can't spell that word is just typical.

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by Ensceptifica


- VNG people deem it fine for a VNG member to sell something coming from a VNG raid.
- VNG people deem it not fine for a non-VNG member tagging along with them to sell something from a VNG raid; they do let him lotto for own use.

Aye there is diff sets of people ?
Baah peeps should give money to b on VNG raids.....


"And it doesn't require intelligence to grab a dictionary and look up the proper way to spell intelligence. The fact that you can't spell that word is just typical."

TBH i dont give a fuck if i spell intelligence wrong. But maybe in your little world, spelling equals intelligence.

posting here isnt about who is smartest. its about character. Values and ethics.

Its rather simple...
1 guy wanna sell something that belongs to him
the 2 guy slaggs guy nr 1 off.
I call guy nr 2 a hypocrite cause he have peeps in his own guild doing the same.

And in comes you calling me stupid.. Just because you want to
1) defend guy nr 2
2) Flame me because i had made you angry on other posts.

But hey !!!! you can spell.....



Try reading sometime...

 

[cjkaceBM]

As far as I am aware the drops sold by VGN members are from guild only raids - ie only VGN people on the raids - so therefore they can do whatever they like with the drops, provided nobody that was there wants them for themselves obviously.

I guess this stone was dropped from Saad's latest dragon raid, which was free for all (dunno wasn't there) and means that people should only lotto if they want it for themselves.

I don't particularly care either way anymore. Do whatever you want, live by your own actions and my bid is still 2.5 Plat.

 

[mars]

lol.. xan u should really avoid posting, cus thats the reason vgn gets a bad rumor, people thinking vgn are all like you. But then i guess u don't care cus u think u know everything and noone else can ever have a point or worth listening at.

edit: tho u are right on this one but u managed to insult everyone anyway even those who had nothing to do with it.

 

[old.Xanthian]

I like annoying people, its fun.


Its like holding a carrott infront of a donkey.. take the bait !

Just sick of people jumping on VGN's back because they are jealous of have a negative view on us because xxx person said this.. blah.. nobbers.

Anyway lets all kiss and make up and no more raids for the guy selling this stone
Take note Xfear.

 

[Stallion-]

whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine, and I dont see why ppl are jelous or are they? Whats there to be jelous about? Some1 wanna explain.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by cjkaceBM
As far as I am aware the drops sold by VGN members are from guild only raids - ie only VGN people on the raids - so therefore they can do whatever they like with the drops, provided nobody that was there wants them for themselves obviously.

I guess this stone was dropped from Saad's latest dragon raid, which was free for all (dunno wasn't there) and means that people should only lotto if they want it for themselves.

Sounds fair to me if that's the case. I haven't been on any of those big Galla/Dragon/Summoner raids yet, but I hear it's frowned upon at least to lotto for an item you only intend to sell, while others came along and are lottoing because they need it. So I don't think it's strange some people get upset if this guy is selling a respec stone he got on such a raid. The fact that the upset people replying are from VNG doesn't change that.

And Xanthian isn't someone I'd like to have defending my side, but then he seldomly is on my side ( ;

Oh I was going to reply to you again as well Eneq, but you can find that one in your private message box.

 

[old.Xanthian]

Ens

 

[exploit]

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3p

I dont give a shit about all this...If i won a stone i wouldnt sell it tho...But I can sure as hell buy 1...


I respect the fact of what VGN says but I wont take a part in this.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by Arrows
So VGN can sell what they like what comes from there raids.
But people in a public raid cant sell what they like....

People in a public raid are a **** for doing a raid to get an item to sell it
But its ok for a VGN member to do a raid with the intention to sell anything that drops...

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imo, then guilds aren't allowed to do any kinds of moneyfarming trips.

to take it to extreme.

 

[Gahldir]

Originally posted by eneq
Hey X ?!?!

You presuming something here and get all angry about it ?

Maybe Karlo arnt refering to Galla items.
So basically you might b upset for something you made up....
Its that a nice way of living ?

You are rather many in VNG nowdays. You have checked all in VNG dont have sold things they auction for ?


BTW why cant you sell something you lotto for ?
If i goto a Galla Raid (fecking boring so prolly wont ever go again) and the item i wanted didnt drop. I wasted 5-6 hours there ? Cause i cant sell anything thats lottoed ?

Sounds stupid imho

So the guy who did want it have to pay for it? you know, this might backfire on you. Not only do you have to spend endless of hours in a dungeon. with no luck you might have to cough up a few plats for the items anyway.

This is why a +point system is nice.

 

[Dunmer]

LOL, nice price.. we had something like 5 raids on Alb/Pryd and now RA respec sells for about 1,5P with some luck.

 

[hive_don]

wanna know what?
it's not my stone. i'm selling it for a friend. i was on the raid yes, lottoed for stones yes, didnt win one. not gonna tell the whole story. but i offered to get a buyer for him for the stone and i posted here in belief of that someone would actually take it seriously. someone did, but mostly i just see vgn flame for something whatever.
i could say i understood but i dont... whatever issues u got tell me or send em to RightNow and complain.
we didnt lotto for the item to sell it. but i sincerly doubt that 2 of the 3 ppl who got the stones would use their RA respecs anyways beeing either low lvls or rr1-rr2.
i could be some wise person saying dont judge before u know the story but i'm not and just gonna say. just be less judgemental or something.

have a nice day

 

[VodkaFairy]

So i'm selling a RA respec stone from a dragon raid the other day.

Then explain why you wrote that.. it clearly says you are selling a stone from that raid, and now you're claiming you aren't or what? Go blame your friend..

The problem is, selling drops other people could have used, is lame. I highly doubt Tzeentch will welcome you on any of his raids again.. end of story.

 

[Spamb0t]

Originally posted by Dunmer
LOL, nice price.. we had something like 5 raids on Alb/Pryd and now RA respec sells for about 1,5P with some luck.

the other ra respec stones ive seen sold here went for 5-6p.

 

[spankya]

Claiming items purely to sell them later on sucks. nuff said.

 

[Demolay]

ooh just beat me high score on defender

 

[old.Gobarnachta]

3.5p t.t seems like everything sucks nowdays except mids...

I really don't remember when I did use that friggin 2nd ra-respec on my menta but I did, oh this wasted mind of mine

 

[drummer]

Originally posted by old.Gobarnachta
3.5p t.t seems like everything sucks nowdays except mids...

I really don't remember when I did use that friggin 2nd ra-respec on my menta but I did, oh this wasted mind of mine

less beer mate

 

[hive_don]

VodkaFairy... I was on the raid. Didn't win a stone. A friend did and he didnt know what it was. I told him what it was and after a day he comes back to me and wonders if I can find a buyer for him to sell the stone instead and that is why i put this post up.
If you wanna be such a kool person and go blame those who have less knowledge of the game and tell us we are stupid and cant udnerstand shit. So go ahead. But it wont get you any friends, nor ppl with "real" respect, only those who wants to blow smoke in places the sun doesnt shine. But then again I doubt alot of ppl that have played this game since the start care about new ppl anyway. "Hey they are new. Why tell them things that can be usefull. It might make us look good."
Sorry for the sarkasm, but I cant help wondering why most ppl in highly "respected" clans have such a hard time helping newcomers, newbies etc (noob/n00b is btw not the same as newbie. Just to clarify what i mean.)

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