Wrath of Heroes

Discussion in 'Warhammer' started by svartalf, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    What is a MOBA, and what does this mean for Warhammer? Anybody?

    Wrath of Heroes: Official Announcement Trailer - YouTube

     
  2. Soazak

    Soazak Part of the furniture

    That actually sounds pretty awesome, had this have been something that was there from the launch, this game would have probably been a lot better for most people.

    This is the type of end-game it needed, will be interesting to see how it pans out.
     
  3. Gahn

    Gahn Resident Freddy

    6 vs 6 vs 6 Arena games with equally equipped chars?
     
  4. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    It's a totally different game, a pure multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) - but Mythic hope to use some of the resources used in it for WAR.

    Here is the Producer's Letter from WAR about it.
     
  5. Gahn

    Gahn Resident Freddy

    That article sheds no light on the new game, but seems just a reassuring letter to War playerbase to me -.-
     
  6. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    That's right. Since the endgame in WAR plays similarly to a MOBA anyway, one might not be surprised to see everybody leave to play the free game instead.
     
  7. GReaper

    GReaper Resident Freddy

    If they can actually get a decent amount of revenue from the WAR IP to help recover from the flop of an MMO, then it seems like a pretty good idea.
     
  8. Shagrat

    Shagrat I am a FH squatter

    that dwarf armour looks shit.
     
  9. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    The armour looks shit because it's on a dwarf. His armour would look great, otherwise.
     
  10. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    Bioware TV has an interview with Goosegoose about this.

    She spouts some crap about people saying they wanted to play the SCs without spending time leveling and paying for an MMO. Not much else new there, except it's going to be in closed beta until it's ready, to borrow a phrase from Arenanet.
     
  11. TheDoon

    TheDoon Loyal Freddie

    Interesting watch.

    Each character only having 5 abilities sounds a little disappointing to me, guess ill need to try it out to see out it plays.
     
  12. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik FH is my second home

    They have probably been looking at guild wars for that i think. You probably have access to more skills then that, but you can only use 5 on the skillbars.

    It's quite a good idea tbh.
     
  13. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

  14. Calaen

    Calaen I am a massive cock who isn't firing atm!

    It's the final nail in the coffin for WAR, they are also about to introdcude buyable pets that give yuo a 5% stat boost.

    The monkeys in charge of this want shot with shit, the incompetence of all of the people still involved with looking after this game still suprises me.

    When doing a panel for WOH this was said

    "We went, you know what? If you play the MMO, we give you all this cool equipment on your adventure, and it's a neat thing to do, but let's just get rid of the boring crap and give people cool [stuff] to wear," Paul Barnett said.

    Its apparently boring crap. A slightly different attitude to how he once hyped WAR.


    Played all of the BETAs so far on WOh and the game is alright, however if two of the three teams meet at the first flag and fight, the third team can grab their own free flag, capture the middle and be 60 points ahead before the other fight is anywhere near to being finished.

    The really need to concentrate on just having the three sides fight each other.
     
  15. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik FH is my second home

    would it have been different without the flag?

    Instead of snatching the flag they would have just steamrolled the other 2 teams.

    So nothing would actually have changed in regard of who takes the lead.
     
  16. Calaen

    Calaen I am a massive cock who isn't firing atm!

    Yes make it king of the hill, it will be self monitored then. Allowing a team to win without killing an enemy isn't in the best interests of an instanced combat game.
     
  17. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    Said panel is linked in the post before yours, should anybody wish to hear the evidence for themselves. Barnett looks crestfallen/embarrassed throughout. This was his baby and it went to crap because of a few post-launch non-content issues. I'd be embarrassed after all that enthusiasm pre-launch - remember that? Oh he's not so enthusiastic any more.

    I don't even play anymore, and I can't really express why, but this comment really pissed me off. It smacks of hypocrisy when the company hasn't even shut down WAR yet.
     
  18. Calaen

    Calaen I am a massive cock who isn't firing atm!

    Yup it was a massive slap in the face to any mmo player really. They also commented on we took what was good from DAOC 3 realms. And I'm thinking you should have implemented that in WAR at the start you tards. Theres a reason DAOC is still talked about regardless of the issues it had, orvr wise it is the daddy!!!
     
  19. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik FH is my second home

    Sure, but it would still be about who attacks last.

    One team just waits for the other 2 to get going and then charge in when those 2 teams are weakened.

    So capture the flag or king of the hill, the outcome will be the same.
     
  20. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    Indeed.

    It's as though they have asked:
    What's the difference between MMORPG and FPS?

    ...and come to the conclusion that:
    MMORPGs have lots of boring crap.

    That's the same boring crap that Barnett and pals thought was great fun just two years ago.

    I think that's a forgivable action on their part, and that two realms would have been fine. I think the population problems in the realms, while clearly a problem, weren't what killed the game.
     
  21. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik FH is my second home

    Population balance is always going to be an issue in open world pvp if you have 2 or more sides that are different from each other.
     
  22. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    Beta reviews:

     
  23. Gahn

    Gahn Resident Freddy

    It seems i got into Beta, gonna get back with impressions if i find time to try it out ...
     
  24. Calaen

    Calaen I am a massive cock who isn't firing atm!

    Yes but that in itself was the beauty of Cammy, whoever were the underdogs sorta made temporary truce for the sake of toppling the big guy. I know cammy still had it's problems and I really did love the pvp in WAR.

    However I felt they left out loads of the good elements of daoc like the combo chains, there wasn't any real positionals in WAR that openend up via other abilities. It was all a bit button mashy.
     
  25. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik FH is my second home

    Sure, you could do that, but many skills works better after others have been used. So in a sense you still have chain combos, they are just not restricted to certain abilities.

    And getting positionals off in WAR were a pain in the ass because of collision detection, so that's why they revamped them to work whenever but still retained a bonus if done "properly".
     
  26. svartalf

    svartalf Can't get enough of FH

    This was another reason I preferred WAR over DAoC. What you consider "good", I would term, "awkward". When you have an online game (especially one as laggy as DAoC), it's better if you get rid of ability chains and positionals.

    If anything, DAoC was more mashy because you had to spam the entire chain backwards every time you wanted to try and hit someone.
     

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