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Buffbots etc?

Hell I hope the game developers are intouch with such forums as this one for feedback. No sodding buffbots for one. Kiss of death to any game eventually if you have to pay for at least 2 accounts. Initially tis interesting but after a period of time resentment kicks in. End of game just like DAOC now. Game is gonna die unless they do something drastic. Trouble is they have dug a very deep hole for themselves now with buffbots and TOA etc. All junk! Though saying tis all junk is overdoing it somewot. If the gains were reduced by LOADS then they have a place for sure.
 

Ethild

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Yes why would any sane game manufacturer want to double their profits at the expense of a few players. What genius would do that?! :eek7:
 

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Double?

You got it wrong. Double profits in the short term but we are hardened game players. Everyone of us are the same in that we all want to be good at the game. Just like millions of others that play console games. Trouble is with that goes awareness and a fair bit of brain power. Eventually you reach a limit in the game where you realize that you are being taken advantage of and to play the game unbuffed etc is just impossible. Wot other game you ever heard of that is the same?

When the above is reached and the realization that months of TOA crap doesn't make fights last that much longer (not long enough to have much more fun) peeps leave. Aren't you aware how many are leaving now?

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Ethild

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I'm well aware how many are leaving now, but I wouldn't blame Buffbots for the hordes of deserters. Desertion will be down to a combination of factors.

You need change to keep a game interesting to the masses. ToA wasn't a bad decision on Mythic's part by any means. Sure, not everyone liked it, and players left. However, (and this has been proven many a time) not changing the game over time will have also had the same consequence. Players simply get bored, and need to move on. If this wasn't the case, we would all still be playing Pong from the 70s (?) because at the time it "rocked so much". By introducing expansions Mythic have cashed in on the majority of players willingness to continue playing, with no real player base loss versus not doing it.

Buffbots are a similar story. The financial game more than compensates for the few players that leave over it. Sure as time goes by, the player base will indeed diminish, but as I have already said, this would have happened without buffbots anyway.

From Mythic's perspective, they made the right choices.
 

kani

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IMO buffbots destroy the game. personally i think all this "overpowered" crap is because of all the bb's. some ppl wont even play unless they get all the capped buffs or an opted grp. well, learn how to play your character without the use of 1-2 extra accounts instead and maybe the game would get more challenging and fun. also rvr might get more balanced that way.

i wasnt planning on trying WoW, but maybe i'll just do that. this anti-buffbot concept is very intriguing :D i also hope there will never be powerleveling as we know it, that's just another lame thing.
 

NeonBlue

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Ethild said:
ToA wasn't a bad decision on Mythic's part by any means.

From Mythic's perspective, they made the right choices.

Really ?!, funny how Mythic admitted recently that TOA was a "mistake" and a "wrong decision"


kani said:
i wasnt planning on trying WoW, but maybe i'll just do that. this anti-buffbot concept is very intriguing :D i also hope there will never be powerleveling as we know it, that's just another lame thing.

BBs in WoW dont exsist, u dont need them but also the classes are done in such a way no specific 1 class can be used as a BB. Also unlike Daoc the mob lvl system works like anything over say 2-3 lvls ull be very lucky to solo. Even with a warrior + healer duo mobs 3lvls above you are very risky anything above 3lvls forget it...its instant death. Only in a group could you try mobs 3-4 lvls above you and then ull need a good tight group who knows what they are doing

Powerlvling in WoW cant be done either not the same way as its done in Daoc..as the XP u get will be the same whether ur with a lvl1 or lvl 30 char..the XP ur char gets remains the same. Also grouping means u get less xp , infact the only reason to group is to do some quests, Elite mobs and the instant dungeons. Otherwise its easy enough to solo all the time and level which is good.
The only way to be Powerlvled what i know of in WoW is to get higher quests but then again u can only go so high as they have a lvl limit on them too and then get a friend who is a higher lvl to help u out so u can do em say 4-5 lvls before u could urself.

Another good thing about WoW is that drops from the Elite mobs and instant dungeons become "Soulbound" to a player when they pick them up, which means they can only be used by that player, so cant be traded and cant be
sold for silly money. More common drops are only "Soulbound on equip" so these can be sold or traded normally.

Otherwise at the moment everything in WoW is pretty much straight forward and easy to do and doesnt have certain issues like Daoc does.
 

XhitmanX

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is WoW in closed beta now guys ? I would like to test it out dont wanna buy the game and find its shit like last time with AC2 lol
 

Zlugugg Benvis

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XhitmanX said:
is WoW in closed beta now guys ? I would like to test it out dont wanna buy the game and find its shit like last time with AC2 lol

US is live ... EU is closed beta ... Korea is open beta.
 

Lubbock

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i played it in US open beta and found that downtime is pretty much gone, no Buffbots seen and no real Buffbots classes <of course there will still be some with money enough so they get 2 accounts> and generally it was great fun to play, and after reading the introduction to their Battleground expansion i was hooked so i hope all my Black List Middies <You know who you are /Stare at Dagger> goes and plays Horde so i can hunt them with my Dwarf HUnter :D
 

Vilje

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Many of you seem to dislike downtime, how about trying counter-strike ( Or any other wtf pwned fps games ) ? :D

And about that pwrlvling thing. If the downtime is shorter, wont that mean that lvling will be faster as well? ... Just a thought.
 

Lokir

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I just want to add there is a downside. Its harder to get a grp when the lvl diffrence
cant be more than 3 lvls and why group when u get faster xp solo (i dont play a mmorpg to solo).
To be honest i didnt play it above 20 and friends say the game change after that.
I will give it another shoot and get to 20.

I like the fact they spread the buffs around and that blizzard actually ban ppl permanent if they cheat.

thats my thoughts.
 

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