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Tafaya Anathas

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In my point of view the number of stupid ppl (in game and forum-wise) is majorly determining the quality of an MMORPG, and in daoc there are too many stupid ppl, fe. AoD fg-zerg whiners. It's looks like WoW PvP will be zerg-centered, so maybe there will be less zerg whiners, what surely will make WoW a better game. I think Blizzard is a company that is capable of balancing the game, so maybe there will be less nerf whines too.


Ps: There is a great chance that I won't play WoW, so this is just a theoretical thingy :)

Ps2: Sorry for the poor english.
 

Zlugugg Benvis

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I have a 35 Mage on US WoW ... its like a mmorpg "light" ... fun to drop in and play on spare time, easy to get hang of, easy quest system etc ... lack of reward for RvR is the thing that I miss most atm ... I aint sold on the incomming battleground system either. Anyway its a nice compliment to DAoC but not a contender to the nr 1 spot for me.
 

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atos said:
Hm, I'll just stick to my warlock on US and start farming artis for my other warlock on EU.

I wouldn't abandon a game I have played for more than 4 years to some new rookie MMORPG shit. Thats right.. WoW will contain 90% D2 players and the averange age of those will be sub puberty. Which means there will be loads of people like the old Hansi, Gimmly, i.e annoying people.

HAVE FUN IN WOW! :D

more to farm then in pvp ? :]
 

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Morchaoron

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atos said:
I wouldn't abandon a game I have played for more than 4 years to some new rookie MMORPG shit.

well ehmmm if you've played daoc for 4 years that means that you started playing it when it was rookie MMORPG shit too so ehmmmm :rolleyes:
 

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atos said:
Hm, I'll just stick to my warlock on US and start farming artis for my other warlock on EU.

I wouldn't abandon a game I have played for more than 4 years to some new rookie MMORPG shit. Thats right.. WoW will contain 90% D2 players and the averange age of those will be sub puberty. Which means there will be loads of people like the old Hansi, Gimmly, i.e annoying people.

HAVE FUN IN WOW! :D

Well said Atos and gratz again on 50 :cheers:
 

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Everyone who doesn't think like me are lame dumbasses.
 

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Awarkle said:
If all those people that loved wow just disapeared quietly then noone would really care if they suddenly loped back after a few months of being bored.

Dont crow about how great a game is until you have played it properly for some time then decide o hang on i really did enjoy daoc more but i cant go back because i made a complete arse of myself on the forums.

Just go and go now instead of trying to persuade the rest of us to follow you like sheep.

Played Star wars galaxies and had everything done within a month wow will be exactly the same.

I just love the "no more pve in daoc please" people who are rushing off to daoc. :)

When wow is released ill still be playing daoc :)
i will stick my pet on u warky so u will be seeing me still
 

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Cybwyn said:
I'll be playing DAoC.

No way I'm going to fart around playing another MMOG now, 'specially one that looks as crap as WoW.

I've read a lot of reasons from ppl playing daoc why he/she won't play or try WoW but this one takes the price.

WoW is superior to Daoc in every aspect (except pvp, where daoc truly used to shine)
- The graphics engine is lightyears ahead of Daoc
- The interface is like a wet dream, players can add there own or others modifications/improvements, macros etc
- No zoning/loading when entering a zone
- They have more or less eliminated timesinks (Can anyone come up with a reason why Mythic decided that you had to lvl artifacts btw ?)
- There is no "punishments" built in to the game
- Once you targetted a mob, "it's your's" xp, loot etc no matter how many others that adds. (would have spared us a loot of frustrated players)
And the list's goes on and on....

Blizzard has had a huge advantage, they could look at other online games and learn from there mistakes.

Last but not least, they have 10 years experience from Warcraft.

Finnaly, no I can't say I care if you stick to Daoc or if you decide to go for wow or play both, thats up to you.
 

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Well, I guess most is subjective but ... graphically speaking, WoW is years behind, both in textures and performance (I can easily dual log with my PC and not lag with a hundred people in ToA zones, do this with WoW client ...). And (this is surely subjective) it looks crap, but I guess if you are in the toons/children drawing thing you may appreciate it, I do prefere realism and a more adult perspective.

The punishment, you have to pay dearly for your armor repairs if you die and can't be ressed, or am I wrong ? That's not really a punishment, unless you're heavily in pvp and cba farming money.

The targetting mob is a dual blade knife: because it means you can also target a boss mob and steal it from the group that did the job before. Imagine a daoc dragon raid: you could touch the dragon before the raid start, go afk, then go back when it's done and loot, leaving 3-4 fg that did all the work frustrated. UO had this system for a bit, and it did generate his own huge share of frustrated players, be sure.

See: it's different. You may like the differences, but it doesn't mean it's better. Blizzard often didn't avoid the mistake, just proposed it in a differeng sauce calling it 'innovation': just consider c/c, fear, mind control and all ... do I need to add more ?
 

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Softy said:
I've read a lot of reasons from ppl playing daoc why he/she won't play or try WoW but this one takes the price.

WoW is superior to Daoc in every aspect (except pvp, where daoc truly used to shine)
- The graphics engine is lightyears ahead of Daoc
- The interface is like a wet dream, players can add there own or others modifications/improvements, macros etc
- No zoning/loading when entering a zone
- They have more or less eliminated timesinks (Can anyone come up with a reason why Mythic decided that you had to lvl artifacts btw ?)
- There is no "punishments" built in to the game
- Once you targetted a mob, "it's your's" xp, loot etc no matter how many others that adds. (would have spared us a loot of frustrated players)
And the list's goes on and on....

Blizzard has had a huge advantage, they could look at other online games and learn from there mistakes.

Last but not least, they have 10 years experience from Warcraft.

Finnaly, no I can't say I care if you stick to Daoc or if you decide to go for wow or play both, thats up to you.

So It's got eye candy and fast loading times (when you can actually get on a server). If that's what I wanted from a game I wouldn't have played DAoC for the last 2 and a half years.

All I'm saying really is that I've invested a lot of time in DAoC, made a lot of friends in the time I've played and I've kept coming back because I like the game. So I'm not about to ditch all that for the something which could well turn out to be a white elephant.
 

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Enough about the graphics already, who the hell plays a game because it looks great?
Who cares if the game looks like 2D UO if the game system is good/balanced and makes for fun fighting?
Well atleast I dont.

I find it funny that so many ppl judge WoW (to be either great or poo) without even trying it, if you havent tried it just dont comment on it.
I havent tried it yet but looking forward to it, will be something different to do for a while and if I think it is crap Ill just go back to one of my former games or find a new one, its not more complicated than that.
 

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well one of the good things about daoc is if you get bored of a realm you /delete Y E S and start again with new classes new zones and new friends. Yes there are a lot of timesinks in the game but then swg didnt have any time sinks you could macro your way through crafting and tbh it was dull.

WoW might be different but in the end blizard will want your subs and will want to keep you playing
 

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All people that are off to WoW will be back for Catacombs, rolling a FoTM Alts and ToA'ing MLing it up, they've already said
 

Tafaya Anathas

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Evulweebeastie said:
All people that are off to WoW will be back for Catacombs, rolling a FoTM Alts and ToA'ing MLing it up, they've already said

There is no way I gonna hunt/level artifacts or doing MLs again. I'll considering comeback only if Mythic make a /ml10 command and artis starting on level 10... which is never gonna happen. Catacombs will only make xping faster, you will have to sit on boring ml raids just to LD on the final step, have to do hours of boring artifact levelling. Daoc is an RvR game, why Mythic had to lower it to boring PvE? When I have a little "missing daoc" feeling I recall that famous sentence: "ToA won't affect RvR at all".
 

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Hib/Pryd population levels are now so low that there's almost no random groups running outside massive siege operations. I wasn't interested in WoW for a long time, but now it seems that it will be an opportunity for me to play alongside my friends and guildies in a lively environment. If I stay in DAoC I'll spend most of my time either solo or in groups with no healing classes.

Maybe if people try WoW and it's bad they'll come back to DAoC and the population levels will get back up to a point where it's worth playing again, but in the mean time it is no fun wandering around a half-empty realm.
 

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Cybwyn said:
I'll be playing DAoC.

No way I'm going to fart around playing another MMOG now, 'specially one that looks as crap as WoW.

hehe kinda funny, this is exactly what I said about WOW before I tried it out :)
Thought it looked like shit and daoc would own forever...

But after trying it out, there is no doubt in my mind...

WOW owns :clap: even PVE is fun (and that tells a lot)

I am so much looking forward to trying out PVP for real (tried it some while exp'ing.... that is life on a PVP server)
Only sucking thing about WOW is the "RVR" reward, but hopefully they will change it
When it comes to all, WOW is so much more carried out and well thought out

But just my opinion ;)
 

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Evulweebeastie said:
All people that are off to WoW will be back for Catacombs, rolling a FoTM Alts and ToA'ing MLing it up, they've already said

never :p

(If I get tired of WOW, ill quit gaming for good and get a real life)
 

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i dont care what wow will be like, but those who whine about graphics and realism should take a look at daoc first:

people running around in multi colored powerranger like armor and carrying weapons no sane warrior would ever use, 1 square meter containg 8 people who are all following 1 other person while running about 60mph, and when battle begins half of them turns into exotic animals, so much for the 'knights & viking battles' game i once played :m00:
at least its still graphically better then its realistic, i hope..
 

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I always thought mythic artwork is great. But the engine is wtf sucky and so is the catacombs one from what i seen.

Artwork in wow matches daoc. Instances are amazing design wise.
 

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Yma said:
Well, I guess most is subjective but ... graphically speaking, WoW is years behind, both in textures and performance (I can easily dual log with my PC and not lag with a hundred people in ToA zones, do this with WoW client ...). And (this is surely subjective) it looks crap, but I guess if you are in the toons/children drawing thing you may appreciate it, I do prefere realism and a more adult perspective.

Erm....i am 23 and i enjoy WoW, gfx doesn't mean everything you know and doesn't mean the game will have all 10 year olds in it.I still think daoc is better but WoW certainly isn't the mediocre game i thought it was...and the daoc engine better than WoW's? what you been drinking Oo

You can't dual log WoW because blizzard doesn't allow that i thought? i can play WoW max settings and any game there is with no slowdown whatsoever but i can't in daoc simply because the engine is so badly designed although the gfx are decent.I am not too sure about WoW pvp at the moment since i haven't really tried it but the PvE is better than daoc's.Guessing you haven't played it much could be the reason you judged it this way.

Also WoW uses direct x9, daoc doesn't fully use it until catacombs is out which means better frame rates and visuals.
 

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snoz said:
I always thought mythic artwork is great. But the engine is wtf sucky and so is the catacombs one from what i seen.

Artwork in wow matches daoc. Instances are amazing design wise.
ur just a wow addict stfu :D
 

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Tafaya Anathas said:
In my point of view the number of stupid ppl (in game and forum-wise) is majorly determining the quality of an MMORPG, and in daoc there are too many stupid ppl, fe. AoD fg-zerg whiners. It's looks like WoW PvP will be zerg-centered, so maybe there will be less zerg whiners, what surely will make WoW a better game. I think Blizzard is a company that is capable of balancing the game, so maybe there will be less nerf whines too.


Ps: There is a great chance that I won't play WoW, so this is just a theoretical thingy :)

Ps2: Sorry for the poor english.

Everyone and his grandma will play wow, so watch out for stupid ppl there to.... :)
 

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Sycho said:
Erm....i am 23 and i enjoy WoW, gfx doesn't mean everything you know and doesn't mean the game will have all 10 year olds in it.I still think daoc is better but WoW certainly isn't the mediocre game i thought it was...and the daoc engine better than WoW's? what you been drinking Oo

You can't dual log WoW because blizzard doesn't allow that i thought? i can play WoW max settings and any game there is with no slowdown whatsoever but i can't in daoc simply because the engine is so badly designed although the gfx are decent.I am not too sure about WoW pvp at the moment since i haven't really tried it but the PvE is better than daoc's.Guessing you haven't played it much could be the reason you judged it this way.

Also WoW uses direct x9, daoc doesn't fully use it until catacombs is out which means better frame rates and visuals.
ok the gfx is maybe better than NF version but cata gfx is way better ..
and u cant imagine all the clueless noob i have seen that are lvl 60 that just prove how easy it is to get lvl 60 any class can solo his way to lvl 60 without any problem thats proly why everyone say thats nice cause none like to xp right?

about dual log in wow did u know if u dual log or try to have a bb or do anything like macro u are perma banned?

for pvp it suck atm no reward no points to go pvp only thing thats fun atm is dueling... about raid in city etc i find that sucky ..

about directx9 hehe when i see wow gfx it would be a very bad engine if u had bad fps ^^
 

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